that the defense of marriage act violated state's rights. he did not talk about that it violated the rights of gay people. he said that it -- it violates the state's ability to regulate and create the laws of marriage. and he said it over and over again. and that is a winning argument for the defense of marriage act critics -- of edith windsor and company. >> well, chief justice john roberts was critical of how president obama was handling doma, they're not defending the law in court but still enforcing it. here is part of what the chief justice said, i want to play that. >> i don't see why he doesn't have the courage of his convictions and execute not only the statute, but do it consistent with his view of the constitution, rather than saying oh, well, we'll wait until the supreme court says we'll have no choice. >> tough words there, question whether the president has the courage of his convictions.