history unfold right before their eyes, as interns at the vatican. villanova is a private catholic university near philadelphia, a unique partnership with the vatican. john hodgins and daniela mcmonegal, two of the interns joining me now. you had no idea, obviously, when you started your internship, you would be here for this history-making event. >> absolutely not. i mean, we found out -- we started basically the day the announcement came out that pope benedict would be resigning. >> that was your first day. >> our first day. >> wow. >> so it was a great way to start and a complete and total surprise to both of us. >> you were surprised today, you were in st. peter's when the smoke hit. >> absolutely. >> you didn't have any inner word -- >> we had no inside scoop. >> they didn't tell the interns? >> we had been told -- people were asking back home, do you guys know, can you get us something inside. but no idea. it was a surprise to us. we thought maybe tomorrow. >> right. and what was it like to be in that square? sort of fascinating to hear everybody's different vantage points on it. >> it was quite a rush of