>> do you believe celibacy has anything to do with the sexual abuse scandals that rocked the church? >> i think it's been proven it doesn't. most sexual abuse happens with families, relatives and married people. that means marriage causes sexual abuse or being a boy scout leader. it's apples and oranges. >> there's a lot of talk about the potential for reform. it means different things to different people. to you, what do you want to see happen when you hear about reform and talk about reform? >> well, it's interesting, anderson. i would say most modern roman catholics want a pope to speak to the 21st century. they want a pope that can dialogue with contemporary society, that can deal with the controversial issues the church