in response. i'm going to talk to stevie wonder about how he helped turn martin luther king, jr. day into a reality. and what he thinks dr. king would say about the state of this country today. we begin, though, as we do every night, keeping them honest, with a colorado school board member who seems intent on attacking martin luther king, jr. on this, the very day we all pause to honor him and his achievements. it's happening in the town of greeley, colorado. an elected official, school board member who also owns a small radio station has been broadcasting a tax on martin luther king, jr., calling him everything from a deagagdegener a -- we're not going to play you all the rambling details of what this letter says, some of it is true, but a lot of it is unsubstantiated claims and charges. we're going to play you a few sentences to give you an idea what he's broadcasting about martin luther king, jr. >> he's not a legitimate reverend or bona fide ph.d. his name is not really martin luther king, jr. just a sexual degenerat, and an american hating communist. >> what's pretty interesting about this broadcast is where the content of the letter comes from. those words that he's speaking. it turns out the letter that reese has been reading on air was taken directly from the writings of a white supremicist or a western racial nationalist as he calls himself. his name is kevin alfred strom. he's also a man convicted of one count of child pornography for which he served time in prison. mr. reese told the same local paper he's never met strom and never talked with him, and unaware he was broadcasting the words of a white supremicist. now he says he didn't realize that's what the website was, and once he did, he took that part of the letter out of the broadcast. if mr. reese was just a shock jock trying to get attention. we wouldn't mention any of this. he's an elected school board member. the board has issued a statement saying reese doesn't reflect the beliefs of the board or school district. and the board finds his actions to be inflammatory. according to the local paper, his concealed weapons permit has been revoked after he left the general manager of a rival radio station this voice mail. >> i give you by the end of the day today to pull all of these sales people off of my sponsors, or we're going to have a shootout. a shootout for the sponsors. >> a shootout for the sponsors he said. the radio station manager got a temporary restraining order because of that e-mail. none of the attacks are new, there's nothing original here. the fbi devoted huge resources to bugging and tracking dr. king in attempts to discredit him, they failed. when the federal holiday for king was being debated, jesse helms handed out a 300-page document about king's alleged communist connections. senator moynihan threw it on the ground and called it filth. they all attacked the man, dr. martin luther king. what none of them seemed to understand, is that what made dr. king's accomplishments so remarkable is that he was just a man, an all too human being, he made mistakes, he had personal failings, he was able to do what so many other men and women could not do. he helped give a movement its direction. mr. reese agreed to come on the show tonight, but as we thought about it, we decided not to give him any more air time. it doesn't change what martin luther king, jr. gave us, doesn't change the dream. just a few moments ago i spoke to the principal of the high school. principal wright, when you first heard mr. reese reading this letter over and over on the radio, what did you think? >> well, i first thought that this can't be real? i thought, wow, that's a surprise. >> you've met -- >> in this day and age to hear that response. >> you know him? >> yes, sir, i do know him, and meetings we had were pleasant at the time. it caught me by surprise to see mr. reese speaking about his messages. >> none of these things are new, these are smears that have been said for years. >> yeah, we heard them during king's lifetime, we heard these sorts of argument notice context of the debate around the legislation to establish the holiday. we see it in the congressional record, all we have to do is look at the october 3rd, 1983 to look at the remarks of the late senator jesse helms, he set out to accomplish king as a communist. this is an old argument that we've encountered before. >> when you look at the resources that the fbi under j. edgar hoover devoted to tracking king, to tape recording and bugging rooms, it's extraordinary what -- the amount of resources they put into this. >> right. i mean, one of the things we do know that came out of the civil rights movement, that came out of watergate was the extent of civilian shall we say fbi involvement in channeling and covering every day ordinary citizens. what we see is an enormous amount of surveillance of every day ordinary people to struggle for freedom. king bore the brunt of j. edgar hoover's paranoia in this regard. >> have students come up to you? i know you don't have a large african-american student population, but have students come up to you about these broadcasts and said anything? >> students have asked me questions regarding, what's my opinion on this? and my opinion is still the same? every american has a right to form their opinion, whatever that opinion may be, however, even though every american has shortcomings, we all have an opportunity to be great in whatever we do. so there's no reason to lessen the impact of dr. king even though he may have had one or two shortcomings. some americans will be successful because of their shortcomings. when i hear my students, we talk about some of the positive things we can continue doing, such as an ethnic festival in our school in the coming weeks to celebrate all cultures. >> it's interesting to me, what was so remarkable about dr. king is the fact that he was a human being and a man, and with failings as everybody has. and yet he was able to accomplish things that others couldn't. so i mean, it seems to miss the larger point here, focusing on some foibles he may have had or personal failings he may have had, it fails to really capture -- that's what makes him such an extraordinary person. >> right. we never know when history's going to choose up to exhibit courage, to exhibit the virtues of a willingness to sacrifice ourselves in the name of justice. one of the things we need to ask ourselves, what was dr. king doing, equality for african-americ african-americans communist inspired? we wanted the nation to live up to its ideals to become a more perfect union. was that communist inspired? one of the things that dr. king insisted was that we expand our moral imaginations. we heard president obama invoke our moral imaginations in the context of the tucson tragedy. what dr. king insisted we do was to expand our horizons and think beyond ourselves. there's so much insecurity and uncertainty around us, we have to reach for a higher self, i think dr. king represents that exam for us. >> do you agree with that? >> not only do i agree with it, but i echo his sentiments entirely. the best way for us to lead our children is through education. you asked a question earlier, what do my students believe what's happening? the best thing for us to do is to educate our children what is right, what is wrong, and let them express their own opinions, get their own beliefs, get them started. >> what's been the reaction in the community to these radio broadcasts? >> in the community it's been one of outrage. you know, greeley, colorado is a fine city. for my family and i, we're one of the 3% to 4% of the population that's african-american. yet my family has felt nothing but warmth and kindness from the people there. they are opposed, quite frankly, that they have to be generalized in some way that they are -- something wrong with the city itself because of a single man's opinion. now, mr. reese is entitled to his opinion, however, if it misleads others to believe that this city is in some way wrong, then i think that's -- i think that is itself a problem that we need to face. i think that's inappropriate in itself, but the bottom line is, he's entitled to his opinion, but it should not reflect the opinions of all those fine people in that city. >> a local paper suggested he step down from the school board, he can't be removed from the school board. he actually -- he has a vote on whether you keep your job or not, right? >> that's where the discomfort lies. as an african-american male i can accept his opinion and say, that's fine, he's entitled to that opinion. as an african-american principal in that district, there is a discomfort that this gentleman has a say so whether i keep my position or not, not based on merit, but my race and the color of my skin. that does cause me some concern. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up later, stevie wonder is tonight's big 360 interview. he talks extensively about his role in helping to establish today's holiday. >> everyone has a right to their opinion. but if you truly believe that you want to see a better world, a better place, a coming together of people, you cannot have that place in your spirit where you have to do that. how can you in one breath talk about your love for god and understand that god made us all in his image and in another breath talk about hating somebody. you know, then again, we know that god takes care of babies and fools. >> babies and fools. more from stevie wonder later in the program. you can join the chat right now at ac360.com. gabby giffords continues to amaze her doctors. they're talking about when she can leave the hospital. and sarah palin's interview since the tragedy. did she help her case tonight? 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>> i don't know if she's been unfairly painted. i know this has not been a good couple weeks for her. she's shrunk ien herself as a national political leader after this incident. the washington post poll shows this. the most vocal well known voice in the republican party right now is a reality tv host/star who continues to shrink in the eyes of the public. i think what you're going to see over the next couple months here is you are going to see the republican establishment lining up to put her in a box so the contrast between her and barack obama over the tucson incident puts front and center some of the contrast here, it's not a good con taft for the gop. i think you're going to continue to see the gop establishment try to put her in a box. this woman cannot be the most vocal face of the republican party, she's clearly not someone who's being a national leader. she's speaking to a very specific constituency of her base. this was an opportunity for sarah palin to be bigger and broaden her base. she's not doing that by going on hannity. she didn't turn 15 people who work for her by going on hannity. you have to reach out to the middle slot of america, and she's just not doing that. >> dana i want to play for you what she said about the whole blood libel thing. >> that term has been used for eones, sean. so it was part of that double standard thing, and goes back to, if it weren't for those double standards, what standards would they have, i suppose. >> she seems unwilling to apologize or back off on anything, do you think she's fair on that? >> i do think she's fair on that. we have a tea party organizer that received a death threat because of all -- you want to talk about rhetoric -- of the things said about conservatives and tea partiers and sarah palin. i don't think that she applied the term incorrectly, and i don't think that it is just inherent to one particular group of people. this is a common term. i've seen it used exponentially. she cited it was used in a wall street journal article just two days prior. it's not as though this is a new fangled term she used. this is a common term. >> cornell, do you agree with that? >> i can't let her off the hook that easily. i mean, i gotta think that strategically she knew what she was doing. she comes in with her grievance politics and then -- >> she was wrapping it up. >> it's an anti-semitic term. >> she was saying there was the use of the term that says people have blood on their hands. did you listen to the interview, she laid it out clearly. i don't know how anyone in their right mind can say this term was inadequately used. >> we have people of the jewish faith who tend to think -- >> defended her using that term. >> i think -- >> it wasn't a slur against jews, and i find interesting that a lot of people who have been against israel and have been against jewish settlements are finding themselves sympathetic to the jews. >> here's the bottom line, when the jewish organization comes out and says, this is a slur, this is a racial slur -- >> and there has been a ton of jewish organizations that have defended her. why do you discount those. >> let's not talk at the same time. >> anderson, you're keeping everyone honest. let's line up the organizations that say this is a racial slur, and those that say this is not. let's see where that falls. >> if it means that much to you, instead of focusing attention on those who were shot and focusing on the discussion surrounding the fact that we have -- >> no, you can't play that. that's a nice little spin game. >> wait a minute. >> the question was about this racial slur. >> the question is cherry picking, which jewish groups you're going to listen to. >> you say all these jewish groups are lining up to support her, let's line them up and keep them honest. >> if people are defending this, i'm sorry, this is not how i meant the term, i didn't think it should be used in this -- i don't think i've heard her ever back off of anything she's done, whether it's the crosshairs on the districts, whether or not you believe they're surveyor symbols as her campaign is now saying. do you think she should say at some point, just, i'm sorry about this, if somebody interpreted it that way. o or do you think she has nothing to be apologetic about. >> i side with many who have come out to say i don't find this an incendiary term. in this case, it was accurately applied, and i think it's just a little bit ironic that people would find offense over the fact that this term was used and not be offended over the fact that you have hundreds of thousands if not over a million private citizens who were absolutely persecuted without any evidence because of this tragedy. i still have yet to hear any apology from anyone who came out saying, was a tea party person or sarah palin who did it, or glenn beck or any number of people. instead they're trying to get sarah palin on a term, i think they're trying to scrounge offense for. >> i don't think -- that term aside, you just trying to be -- >> cornell, have you been called a murderer because of arizona, because i have. >> that term aside, sarah palin had an opportunity to come out and be bigger this past week and she didn't. i think the pollings show she didn't. she got stuck in grievance and -- >> let's talk about polling, which is research. >> not something you want from your national leader. she got smaller this week as opposed to bigger. >> oh, no, no, no, no. >> i think a lot of people inside your party are going to have a hard time taking her seriously. >> media curves just came out with a study that shows the majority of americans found sarah palin to be more sympathetic after her remarks on the tucson shootings. people can take that for what it's worth. no one's going to be happy with anything sarah palin says until she puts her head on a platter and offers it up. that's the bottom line. >> that's ridiculous. still ahead, steve jobs making a shocking announcement. we'll tell about you that in a moment. and stevie wonder joins me for tonight's big 360 interview. why it was so important for him to be involved in the creation of the dr. martin luther king, jr. holiday. >> it was appropriate for us to have a national holiday to acknowledge the lives of dr. king and those like him that represented the fabric of what the united states was all about. [ male announcer ] this is charlie whose morning flight to london starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol now, and maybe up to 8 in a day. or...choose aleve and 2 pills for a day free of pain. enjoy the flight. still to come, the one and only stevie wonder. we talked to him about the importance of celebrating the life of dr. martin luther king, jr. he helped make this national holiday happen. here's some other big stories. isha joins us tonight and every night with the 360 bulletin. >> steve jobs is taking another medical leave of absence. he announced his move in another letter to employees, but did not reveal his condition. he had a liver transplant during a leave of absence in 2009. one of the victims of the tucson shootings has apologized to shouting to a tea party leader "you are dead." james eric fuller's outburst came at a town hall meeting saturday when the tea party rep was speaking about gun control. fuller was taken to a mental health facility for evaluation. julian assange was given secret swiss banking records by a swiss banker. the records are on two disks and may contain information about possible illegal banking activity. assange says he expects to post them on wikileaks in a matter of weeks. and anderson, police in missouri spent sunday afternoon picking up mail along an intersta interstate. the back door of a tractor-trailer carrying mail for the u.s. postal service popped open, scattering hundreds of pieces along a 17 mile stretch. i think i can safely say, there were folks hoping the bills from their christmas shopping had flown out never to be seen again. >> probably so. i don't know if you saw this over the weekend. i was on saturday night live this weekend, i had a small role in an snl short. we thought it might give you folks something to smile about. here it is in tonight's shot. >> can i have a beer, please? >> you got it. >> you know what time it is? >> time for you to get a watch. >> peewee herman, awesome. i'm such a big fan. >> i know you are, but what am i. >> you gotta let me buy you a drink. >> i usually stick with milk. but i guess just this once. >> excuse me, bartender, shots. >> cheers! ♪ >> two more, please. ♪ >> two more! ♪ >> two more! >> tequila! ♪ >> tequila! >> this is the best night of my life, andy. >> hey, look, it's anderson keerp. >> you want to play a prank on him? >> yes. >> can i ask you a question? do you know barbara walters? >> sure. >> you guys ever hook up or -- >> is that a joke? >> oh, anderson, here's a headli headline. 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[ laughter ] >> did you see that? >> he got wrecked. >> what are you guys doing here? >> this is an intervention, andy. >> what's the big problem, he's trying to have some fun. >> he's not the only one with a problem, peewee, your friends are here too. >> jerry? >> you're a bad influence on each other. >> we are not. >> oh, really? >> hey, anderson. >> you almost hit me in the eye. you know what would happen if i lost these eyes? they're a national treasure. >> they are. you. >> guys can't hang out together any more. why don't you take a moment and say good-bye. >> okay. >> good-bye, andy. it was fun while it lasted. even though you're a bad influence, you're a great friend. >> i know you are. but what am i? >> he stole my line. >> you're cured. >> yay! >> let's celebrate by doing some shots. >> shots! >> shots! >> shots! >> this is great. >> get the [ bleep ] off of me. >> there you go. >> what's this i hear about you and pee-pee herman being bff's? >> yeah, he's really cool. i think he suggested i be in this digital short, i was really excited. >> no bow ties. >> it's good to have you on the program every night from now on. >> thanks, anderson. up next, i asked stevie wonder how he thinks martin luther king, jr. would feel about the deep social and political divisions in the country today. and the former dictator of haiti has returned to haiti after 25 years in exile. no one's exactly clear why. john zarrella is there, we'll try to get some answers. 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>> first of all, happy king day to you and all of america. my reason for wanting this to become a reality is because for the most part, all of the people throughout the state of michigan, even before it was a national holiday acknowledged the day as being a day we celebrated and honored dr. king. along with that, we honored all of those who live d and died fo those principles. i just felt it was appropriate for us to have a national holiday to acknowledge the lives of dr. king and those like him that really represented the fabric of what the united states was all about, the constitution. >> i think a lot of people don't -- maybe -- a new generation of kids don't realize how difficult it was to get this passed as a federal holiday. i mean, you and coretta scott king fought for this for years? >> i said to her, you know, i had a dream about this song. and i imagine in this dream i was doing this song, we were marching to -- with pa tigs signs to make for dr. king's birthday to become a national holiday. she was excited about it. she said i wish you luck, we're in a time where i don't think it's going to happen. i said, no, i believe it will. our first march was in 1981, we had another one in 1982, 1983. and ultimately the bill was signed by president ragen. >> what do you want young people to know about dr. king, about what he was trying to get across about his message? >> i think -- first of all, that he was for economic, social and civil justice for everyone. he spoke of finding solutions nonviolently, and he believed in a place of peace that had to exist between all people of this country. we can disagree without feeling that we have to spew words of bitterness, of hatred. i mean that doesn't represent a place of unity. >> even on this day, though, we're seeing signs of disunity, i guess you could say. we started off this program tonight with a story about an elected member of a colorado school board who also has a radio station, he's been reading a letter or writings of an alleged neo-nazi today against dr. king calling him an american hating communist and other stuff that folks have called dr. king for years. what does it tell you about, that even in this day and age on this day there's folks spreading that kind of message? >> i think that everyone has a right to their opinion. if you truly believe that you want to see a better world a better place, a coming together of people, you cannot have that place in your spirit where you have to do that. i mean, how can you in one breath talk about your love for god and understand that god made us all in his image, and in another breath talk about hating somebody. we know that god takes care of babies and fools. >> god takes care of babies and fools? that's nice. i want to switchgears a little bit and ask you about president obama and the first lady. it's actually the first lady's birthday today. ♪ happy birthday to you >> i want to play some of the celebration. ♪ happy birthday ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday ♪ happy birthday >> i think they could have used a little of your help today singing that. >> no, they sounded far better than stevie wonder. >> the president's actually said, were he not a stevie wonder fan, michelle might not have date me. >> well, i'm glad that he was a stevie wonder fan. is a stevie wonder fan, and i'm glad that she dated him. she's a wonderful woman and they both have great spirits. >> what do you think dr. king would make of the divisions we see in this country today? political divisions, social divisions, economic divisions? >> i believe that obviously he would acknowledge the things that have happened for the good, but obviously, in a time where so much more could have happened, there would be a place of disappointment. i think that when you have a situation where guns are far too accessible to people and people make the excuse that, listen, because they have a gun i need a gun, and all the crazy people have guns, therefore it just goes on and on and on. that's a very sad definition of moving forward. i'm hoping that people that are communicators will use their voices more to lift people up than bring them down. >> stevie wonder, i appreciate you being with us tonight. i look forward to seeing you again. >> i thank you very much. >> programming note, we're excited about 360. we're going to be working with stevie wonder on a project that's going to culminate in a special we're going to run around the unveiling of the martin luther king tribute in august. ricky jervais, some people thought he was hilarious, others think he went too far. fear not, starbucks is adding a super sized drink to their menu. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ daylight comes [ dogs barking ] ♪ i'm on my way ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ working my whole life away ♪ another day ♪ another dollar to london starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol now, and maybe up to 8 in a day. or...choose aleve and 2 pills for a day free of pain. enjoy the flight. or...choose aleve and 2 pills for a day free of pain. 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>> reporter: you know, that was the answer we had hoped to get today at the press conference. there were at least a hundred members of the press corps outside the hotel where he was holed up all day today. and then, of course, they came out and said, sorry, it's cancelled. they're saying that tomorrow now, at 10:00 a.m. local time, eastern time that he will hold a press conference, and we will get the answers to why he came back. i did talk to one of his political allies, long-time political allies, a man who says he grew up with duvalia. he told me that duvalia decided after seeing all the horrible images of the earthquake damage he decided he had to make a trip back, it was in his heart to come talk to the people. when i asked how many days? he said you'll have to ask that of duvalia. maybe only three days and he'll leave. >> there's huge turmoil there now with elections. it's an extremely volatile time for him. i don't know if that's a coincidence or not. president preval said if he ever returned to haiti, he would be arrested for crimes he committed to haiti. any indications they plan to arrest him? >> we have it from a reliable source that meetings were going on today, tonight, perhaps involving some government leaders, to try to figure out what their options might be. we assume that includes arrests. although no one here seems to be wanting to use that word arrest right now. but people did tell us, that there are some in the country that are prepared to go ahead and move ahead with trying to file some sort of charges against him. the question is, can they get those charges filed in time before what he says is his scheduled departure in two or three zmaz. >> you were on the ground when he left back in '86. we'll have more for you tomorrow once the press conference happens. still to come, starbucks brewing up a new option for those who need a bigger caffeine kick. like we all need more cafe. first, isha joins us with another 360 bulletin. >> three days after tunisia's ruler fled to saudi arabia. tunisia's prime minister is trying to form a new government. the city with the second highest crime rate in the nation is laying off nearly half of its cops. camden new jersey officials say 163 police officers and 60 firefighters will lose their jobs to help close a $26.5 million budget gap. the wooly mammoth extinct for thousands of years could be brought back to life in six years, that's what a group of scientists hope to do, using clone i cloning technology. the big question in hollywood, did ricky gervais go too far as last night's host of golden globes award. nobody was safe from his jokes. some of you said he was too mean spirited. others including stars thought he was hilarious. i -- >> some of the stories were annoying as well, he was pretty tough on some of them. >> you know what, i think it was too much. >> you do? 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[ male announcer ] now, it's ok to wait. get great deals. even at the last minute. hotels.com. be smart. book smart. good evening, everyone, thanks for watching tonight. keeping them honest, why is a school board member in colorado broadcasting a tax on a radio station against martin luther king, jr. on today of all days, he's been doing it for weeks, several times a day. did he know the words he's been using come directly from a white supremicist? we're keeping them honest. also tonight, sarah palin speaking out, her first tv interview since the attack in tucson. she was attacked for her rhetoric, now what she's saying in response. i'm going to talk to stevie wonder about how he helped turn martin luther king, jr. day into a reality. and what he thinks dr. king would say about the state of this country today. we begin, though, as we do every night, keeping them honest, with a colorado school board member who seems intent on attacking martin luther king, jr. on this, the very day we all pause to honor him and his achievements. it's happening in the town of greeley, colorado. an elected official, school board member, who also owns a small radio station has been broadcasting a tax on martin luther king, jr., calling him everything from a degenerate to a communist. ed school board officials name is brent reese. that's him. he says he wants to promote critical thinking and debate. he's reading a letter he says he received three years ago. we're not going to play you all the rambling details of what this letter says. some of it is true, but a lot is unstan shalt unstantiated claims and charges. we're going to play you a few sentences to give you an idea what he's broadcasting about martin luther king, jr. >> he's not a legitimate reverend or bona fide ph.d. his name is not really martin luther king, jr. just a sexual degenerate, and an american hating communist. and a criminal bee trar of the interests of even his own people. >> what's pretty interesting about this broadcast is where the content of the letter comes from. those words that he's speaking. it turns out the letter that reese has been reading on air was taken directly from the writings of a white supremicist or a western racial nationalist as he calls himself. his name is kevin alfred strom. that's a picture of him. he's also a man convicted of one count of child pornography for which he served time in prison. mr. reese told the same local paper he's never met strom and never talked with him, and he was unaware he was broadcasting the rants of a white supremicist. but at the end of the letter, is a link to a sponsor of the white supremicist group. now he says he didn't realize that's what the website was, and once he did, he took that part of the letter out of the broadcast. if mr. reese was just a shock jock trying to get attention. we wouldn't mention any of this. he's an elected school board member. the board has issued a statement saying reese doesn't reflect the beliefs of the board or school district. and the board finds his actions to be inflammatory. reese says he's received threats and startsed carrying a gun. according to the local paper, his concealed weapons permit has been revoked after he left the general manager of a rival radio station this voice mail. >> i give you by the end of the day today to pull all of these sales people off of my sponsors, or we're going to have a shootout. i want to let you know, a shootout for the sponsors. >> a shootout for the sponsors he said. the radio station manager got a temporary restraining order because of that voice mail. none of the attacks are new, there's nothing original here. the fbi devoted huge resources to bugging and tracking dr. king in attempts to discredit him, they failed. when the federal holiday for king was being debated in 1983, republican senator jesse helms handed out a 300-page document about king's alleged communist connections. senator moynihan threw it on the ground and called it filth. they all attacked the man, dr. martin luther king. what none of them seemed to understand, is that what made dr. king's accomplishments so remarkable is that he was just a man, an all too human being, he made mistakes, he had personal failings, and yet he was able to do what so many other men and women could not do. he helped give a movement its direction. he helped give a people its voice. mr. reese agreed to come on the show tonight, but as we thought about it, we decided not to give him any more air time. dredging up the same old points about martin luther king, jr.'s flaws as a human being. some of them are true, some of them are not. it doesn't change what martin luther king, jr. gave us, doesn't change the dream. just a few moments ago i spoke with brian wright, principal of the high school. principal wright, when you first heard mr. reese reading this letter over and over on the radio, what did you think? >> well, i first thought that this can't be real? i thought, wow, that's a surprise. >> you've met him, right? >> in this day and age to hear that response. >> you know him? >> yes, sir, i do know him, and meetings we had were pleasant at the time. so needless to say, it caught me by surprise to see mr. reese speaking about dr. king in his messages. >> professor claude, none of these things are knew, these are all smears that have been said for years? >> yeah, we heard them during king's lifetime, we heard these sorts of arguments in the context of the debate around the legislation to establish the holiday. we see it in the congressional record, all we have to do is look at the october 3rd, 1983 to look at the remarks of the late senator jesse helms, where he sought to establish king as a communist sympathizer. this is an old argument that we've encountered before. >> when you look at the resources that the fbi under j. edgar hoover devoted to tracking king, to tape recording and bugging rooms, it's extraordinary what -- the amount of resources they put into this. >> right. i mean, one of the things we do know that came out of the civil rights movement, that came out of watergate was the extent of civilian shall we say fbi involvement in channeling and covering every day ordinary citizens. so what we see is the counter intelligence program that led to an enormous amount of surveillance of every day ordinary people in their efforts to struggle for freedom. king bore the brunt of j. edgar hoover's paranoia in this regard. >> mr. wright, have students come up to you -- i know you don't have a large african-american population, but have students come up to you about these broadcasts, and said anything? >> students have asked me questions regarding, what's my opinion on this? and my opinion is still the same? every american has a right to form their opinion, whatever that opinion may be, however, even though every american has shortcomings, we all have an opportunity to be great in whatever we do. so there's no reason to lessen the impact of dr. king even though he may have had one or two shortcomings. some americans will be successful because of their shortcomings. when i hear my students, we talk about some of the positive things we can continue doing, such as an ethnic festival in our school in the coming weeks to celebrate all cultures. >> professor claude, it's interesting because -- to me, what was so remarkable about dr. king is the fact that he was a human being and a man, and with failings as everybody has. and yet he was able to accomplish things that others couldn't. so i mean, it seems to miss the larger point here, focusing on some foibles he may have had or personal failings he may have had, it fails to really capture -- that's what makes him such an extraordinary person. >> right. we never know when history's going to choose us to exhibit the courage, to exhibit the virtues of a willingness to sacrifice ourselves in the name of justice. one of the things we need to ask ourselves, what was dr. king doing, equality for african-americans communist inspired? was the fact that we didn't want separate but equal communist inspired? we wanted the nation to live up to its ideals to become a more perfect union. was that communist inspired? we need to begin to interrogate the notions behind these statements. one of the things that dr. king insisted was that we expand our moral imaginations. we heard president obama invoke our moral imaginations in the context of the tucson tragedy. what dr. king insisted we do was to expand our horizons and think beyond ourselves. and what we have to resist in these moments where there's so much insecurity and uncertainty around us, we have to resist those efforts to drag us down to our basil selves and reach for a higher example of ourselves. >> do you agree with that? >> not only do i agree with it, but i echo his sentiments entirely. the best way for us to lead our children is through education. you asked a question earlier, what do my students believe what's happening? the best thing for us to do is to educate our children what is right, what is wrong, and let them express their own opinions, get their own beliefs, get them started. >> principal wright, what's been the reaction in the community to these radio broadcasts? >> in the community it's been one of outrage. you know, greeley, colorado is a fine city. for my family and i, we're one of the 3% to 4% of the population that's african-american. yet my family has felt nothing but warmth and kindness from the people there. they are opposed, quite frankly, that they have to be generalized in some way that they are -- something wrong with the city itself because of a single man's opinion. now, mr. reese is entitled to his opinion, however, if it misleads others to believe that this city is in some way wrong, then i think that's -- i think that is itself a problem that we need to face. i think that's inappropriate in itself, but the bottom line is, he's entitled to his opinion, but it should not reflect the opinions of all those fine people in that city. >> a local paper suggested he step down from the school board, he can't be removed from the school board. he actually -- he has a vote on whether you keep your job or not, right? >> that's where the discomfort lies. as an african-american male i can accept his opinion and say, that's fine, he's entitled to that opinion. as an african-american principal in that district, there is a discomfort that this gentleman has a say so whether i keep my position or not, not based on merit, but based on my race or the color of my skin. and that does cause me some concern. >> principal brian wright i appreciate you being with us as well. and professor eddie claude i appreciate you being with us as well. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up later, stevie wonder is tonight's big 360 interview. he talks extensively about his role in helping to establish today's holiday. >> everyone has a right to their opinion. but if you truly believe that you want to see a better world, a better place, a coming together of people, you cannot have that place in your spirit where you have to do that. how can you in one breath talk about your love for god and understand that god made us all in his image and in another breath talk about hating somebody? 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>> i don't know if she's been unfairly painted. i know this has not been a good couple weeks for her. she's shrunken herself as a national political leader after this incident. the washington post poll shows that. i think the problem now for most republicans is this, the most vocal, well-known voice in the republican party right now is a reality tv host/star who continues to shrink in the eyes of the public. i think what you're going to see over the next couple months here is you are going to see the republican establishment lining up to put her in a box so the contrast between her and barack obama over the tucson incident puts front and center some of the corn contrast here, and it's not a good contrast for the gop. i think you're going to continue to see the gop establishment try to put her in a box. this woman cannot be the most vocal face of the republican party, she's clearly not someone who's being a national leader. she's speaking to a very specific constituency of her base. this was an opportunity for sarah palin to be bigger and broaden her base. she's not doing that by going on hannity. she didn't turn 15 people who work for her by going on hannity. you have to reach out to the middle slot of america, and she's just not doing that. >> dana i want to play for you what she said about the whole blood libel thing. >> that term has been used for eons, sean. so it was part of that double standard thing, and goes back to, if it weren't for those double standards, what standards would they have, i suppose? >> she seems unwilling to apologize or back off on anything, do you think she's fair on that? >> i do think she's fair on that, anderson. this is exactly what we have. we have a tea party organizer that received a death threat because of all -- you want to talk about rhetoric -- of the things said about conservatives and tea partiers and sarah palin. i don't think that she applied the term incorrectly, and i don't think that it is just inherent to one particular group of people. this is a common term. i've seen it used exponentially. she cited it was used in a wall street journal article just two days prior to this incident. it's not as though this is a new fangled term she used. and it's causing offense. this is a common term. >> cornell, do you agree with that? >> i can't let her off the hook that easily. i mean, i gotta think that strategically she knew what she was doing. she comes in with her grievance politics and then she plays the victim and then she sorts of wraps it all up. >> she was defending herself. >> it's an anti-semitic term. >> this is not anti-semitic. what she was saying was, there was the use of the term that says people have blood on their hands. did you listen to the interview, she laid it out clearly. i don't know how anyone in their right mind can say this term was inadequately used. i honestly don't, i question whether we heard the same interview. >> we have people of the jewish faith who tend to think -- >> defended her using that term. >> they consider this an historical slur -- >> it wasn't a slur against jews, and i find interesting that a lot of people who have been against israel and have been against jewish settlements are finding themselves sympathetic to the jews. >> here's the bottom line, when the jewish organization comes out and says, this is a slur, this is a racial slur -- >> and there has been a ton of jewish organizations that have defended her. why do you discount those? >> dana, i don't -- >> no, no, that's disingenuous, cornell. >> let's not talk at the same time. >> anderson, you're keeping everyone honest. let's line up the organizations that say this is a racial slur, and those that say this is not. let's see where that falls. let's keep us honest on this. >> if it means that much to you, instead of focusing attention on those who were shot and focusing on the discussion surrounding the fact that we have -- >> no, you can't play that. that's a nice little spin game. >> wait a minute. so standard for you but not for me? okay. >> the question was about this racial slur. >> the question is cherry picking, which jewish groups you're going to listen to. >> you say all these jewish groups are lining up to support her, let's line them up and keep them honest. >> dana, why not just say, if people are defending this, i'm sorry, this is not how i meant the term, i didn't think it should be used in this -- i don't think i've really heard her back off of anything she's done. whether it's the crosshairs on the districts, whether or not you believe they're surveyor symbols as her campaign is now saying. i mean, do you think she should say at some point, i'm sorry about this, if somebody interpreted it that way? or do you think she has nothing to be apologetic about. >> i really -- and i side with allen dershowitz and many others who have come out and said, they don't find this an incendiary term, and neither do i. in this case, it was accurately applied, and i think it's just a little bit ironic that people would find offense over the fact that this term was used and not be offended over the fact that you have hundreds of thousands if not over a million private citizens who were absolutely persecuted without any evidence because of this tragedy. i still have yet to hear any apology from anyone who came out saying that, oh, it was a tea party person, or it was sarah palin who did it, or glenn beck or any number of people. instead they're trying to get sarah palin on a term, i think they're trying to scrounge offense for. >> i don't think -- that term aside, you just trying to be -- >> cornell, have you been called a murderer because of arizona, because i have. there are apologies owed. >> that term aside, sarah palin had an opportunity to come out and be bigger this past week and she didn't. i think the pollings show she didn't. she got stuck in grievance and victimization politics which is not something you want for your national leader. >> let's talk about polling, which is research. >> she got smaller this week as opposed to bigger. >> oh, no, no, no, no. >> i think a lot of people inside your party are going to have a hard time taking her seriously. >> media curves just came out with a study that shows the majority of americans found sarah palin to be more sympathetic after her remarks on the tucson shootings. people can take that for what it's worth. no one's going to be happy with anything sarah palin says until she puts her head on a platter and offers it up. that's the bottom line. >> that's ridiculous. >> dana, cornell, difference in opinion. i appreciate you joining me tonight. thank you. still ahead, steve jobs making a shocking announcement. hey, guys. printer's out of ink. just shake it. 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>> we all have a journey. we all have stuff that we deal with, but we can learn from each other. >> we have to turn these boys around. we're losing a generation here, man. we're spiralling out of control unless we stop it. >> i really don't have a dad, because my dad's in jail. i stay with my mom. and every time i wake up, i feel like i don't have a man to support me. i'm glad you let me come up here. >> steve harvey and his wife seem incredibly committed to helping teens. what do you think the best way to support kids is? >> they mentor, they find a way to play a meaningful role in young people's lives. it's exciting to see both mr. and mrs. harvey working with children. she working with the girls and he with the boys. >> steve, thanks. >> thank you, anderson. up next in the big 360 interview, i asked stevie wonder how he thinks martin luther king, jr. would feel about the deep social and political divisions in the country today. and baby doc has returned to haiti after 25 years in exile. no one knows exactly why. >> man: diving to 4,000 meters. >> boy: go down, down, down. down. straight. go straight. no, to the right. to the right. >> go to the right, go to the right. >> whoa! >> whoa! >> what is that? 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>> first of all, happy king day to you and all of america. my reason for wanting this to become a reality is because for the most part, all of the people throughout the state of michigan, even before it was a national holiday acknowledged the day as being a day we celebrated and honored dr. king. along with that, we honored all of those who lived and died for those principles. i just felt it was appropriate for us to have a national holiday to acknowledge the lives of dr. king and those like him that really represented the fabric of what the united states was all about, the constitution. >> i think a lot of people don't -- maybe -- a new generation of kids don't realize how difficult it was to get this passed as a federal holiday. i mean, you and coretta scott king fought for this for years? >> i said to her, you know, i had a dream about this song. and i imagine in this dream i was doing this song, we were marching to -- with petition signs to make for dr. king's birthday to become a national holiday. she was excited about it. she said i wish you luck, we're in a time where i don't think it's going to happen. i said, no, i believe it will. our first march was in 1981, we had another one in 1982, 1983. and ultimately the bill was signed by president reagan. >> for you, what do you want young people to know about dr. king, about what he was trying to get across? about his message? >> i think -- first of all, that he was for economic, social and civil justice for everyone. he spoke of finding solutions nonviolently, and he believed in a place of peace that had to exist between all people of this country. we can disagree without feeling that we have to spew words of bitterness, of hatred. i mean that doesn't represent a place of unity. >> even on this day, though, we're seeing signs of disunity, i guess you could say. we started off this program tonight with a story about an elected member of a colorado school board who also has a radio station, he's been reading a letter or writings of an alleged neo-nazi today against dr. king calling him an american hating communist and other stuff that folks have called dr. king for years. what does it tell you about, that even in this day and age on this day there's folks spreading that kind of message? >> i think that everyone has a right to their opinion. if you truly believe that you want to see a better world a better place, a coming together of people, you cannot have that place in your spirit where you have to do that. i mean, how can you in one breath talk about your love for god and understand that god made us all in his image, and in another breath talk about hating somebody? we know that god takes care of babies and fools. >> god takes care of babies and fools? that's nice. i want to switch gears a little bit and ask you about the president and the first lady. it's actually the first lady's birthday today. ♪ happy birthday to you >> go ahead, i don't want to interrupt stevie wonder. >> no, that's okay. >> the president and sasha and malia honored her by singing part of your version of the song. >> i want to play some of the celebration. ♪ happy birthday ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday ♪ happy birthday >> i think they could have used a little of your help today singing that. >> no, they sounded far better than stevie wonder. far better. >> it's funny, though, the president's actually said, were he not a stevie wonder fan, "michelle might not have dated me." >> well, i'm glad that he was a stevie wonder fan. is a stevie wonder fan, and i'm glad that she dated him. she's a wonderful woman and they both have great spirits. >> what do you think dr. king would make of the divisions we see in this country today? political divisions, social divisions, economic divisions? >> i believe that obviously he would acknowledge the things that have happened for the good, but obviously, in a time where so much more could have happened, there would be a place of disappointment. i think that when you have a situation where guns are far too accessible to people and people make the excuse that, listen, because they have a gun i need a gun, and all the crazy people have guns, therefore it just goes on and on and on. that's a very sad definition of moving forward. i'm hoping that people that are communicators will use their voices more to lift people up than bring them down. >> stevie wonder, i appreciate you being with us tonight. i look forward to seeing you again. >> i thank you very much. >> programming note, we're excited about here at 360, we're going to be working with stevie wonder we'll air around the unveiling of the martin luther king memorial in august. ricky gervais, some people thought he was hilarious, others think he went too far. i personally thought he was hilarious. if you're in need of a caffeine fix but a large cup of coffee is not enough, fear not, starbucks is unveiling their super sized drink to their menu. ♪ could that have also inspired its 556 horsepower supercharged engine? 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>> reporter: you know, that was the answer we had hoped to get today at the press conference. there were at least a hundred members of the press corps outside the hotel where he was holed up all day today. and then, of course, they came out and said, sorry, it's cancelled. they're saying that tomorrow now, at 10:00 a.m. local time, eastern time that he will hold a press conference, and we will get the answers to why he came back. i did talk to one of his political allies, long-time political allies, a man who says he grew up with duvalier. he told me that duvalier decided after seeing all the horrible images of the earthquake damage and the aftermath, particularly this anniversary, that he decided he had to make the trip back. it was in his heart to come and talk to the people. when i asked how many days? he said you'll have to ask that of duvalier. we had heard, anderson, maybe only three days and he'll leave. >> there's huge turmoil there now with elections. the number of candidates up for that. it seems of all the times for him to return, this is a particularly volatile time for him. i don't know if that's a coincidence or not. president preval said if he ever returned to haiti, he would be arrested for crimes he committed any indications they plan to arrest him? >> you know, that's exactly right. that statement was made back in 2007. we have it from a very reliable source that meetings were going on today, tonight, perhaps involving some government leaders to try to figure out what their options might be. we assume that includes arrests. although no one here seems to be wanting to use that word arrest right now. but people did tell us, that there are some in the country that are prepared to go ahead and move ahead with trying to file some sort of charges against him. the question is, can they get those charges filed in time before what he says is his scheduled departure in two or three days. >> you were on the ground when he left back in '86. we'll have more for you tomorrow once the press conference happens. still to come, starbucks brewing up a new option for those who need a bigger caffeine kick. like we all need more caffeine. first, isha joins us with another 360 bulletin. >> violent protest in tunisia's capital today. three days after the top official fled to saudi arabia. tunisia's prime minister is trying to form a new government. the city with the second highest crime rate in the nation is laying off nearly half of its cops. camden new jersey officials say 163 police officers and 60 firefighters will lose their jobs to help close a $26.5 million budget gap. the wooly mammoth extinct for thousands of years could be brought back to life in six years, that's what a group of scientists hope to do, using cloning technology. they say they'll extract dna from a mammoth cashing us that's been preserved at a russian lab and insert it into the egg cells of a russian elephant in the hopes of producing a baby mammoth. the big question in hollywood, did ricky gervais go too far as last night's host of the golden globes awards? nobody was safe from his jokes. some of you said he was too mean spirited. others including stars thought he was hilarious. i -- >> some of the stories were annoying as well, he was pretty tough on some of them. >> you know what, i think it was too much. >> you do? >> i prayed for peewee herman to put me out of my misery, knock me out, take me out of my pain. >> you thought he was too mean? >> i thought it was too mean, it was clear right from the opening words he said, people weren't comfortable. people don't want that kind of nastiness. he gets a thumbs down from me. >> i think the stars were uncomfortable. the folks at home got more of a kick out of it. we'll see. >> i don't know, we'll see. >> we'll see if he's asked back. time now for the ridiculous. who's thirsty, because we're adding the trenta to the ridiculous. starbucks' new super sized drink. 31 ounces of caffeine fun. the giant cup of excess known as the trenta arrives in the south tomorrow. starbucks says it will be everywhere by may. apparently it's only for drinks like iced tea. which is fine by me, who wants the guy next to you on the train spilling a quart of boiling hot coffee on you. if there's one thing can you say about the coffee ordering experience, is that we needed more options. you know what paul rudd said about it best in the movie "role models." >> can i take your order? >> tall chai. >> large black coffee. >> a what? >> large black coffee. >> do you mean a venti? >> yeah, he means a venti p.m. >> venti is a large coffee. >> no, venti means 20. >> venti is a large coffee. >> says who, fellini? >> how much is that? here's a ten. >> do you accept lira? >> keep the change. >> it's not like starbucks is alone in plus sizing its products. 7-eleven has the big gulp. and other restaurants have their super sized drinks. does anyone really need 31 ounces of iced coffee at one time? it exceeds the limit of a normal human stomach. the good thing is, after you're done with your 31 ounces of iced coffee, you can use your cup for any number of activities. natur, blame the mucus. well, i can't breathe. did you try blowing your nose? of course. 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