president's confidence. moments ago, a pentagon source with the ongoing contact with the general telling us he simply does not see how general mccrystal can survive this and that he will, repeat, will repeat resign tomorrow. here is what the president said late this afternoon. >> i think it's clear that the article in which he and his team appeared showed a poor -- showed poor judgment. but i also want to make sure that i talk to him directly before i make any final decision. >> we're going to talk in a moment with the "rolling stone" reporter who wrote the article, michael hastings. first, details from the piece. an aide in the article brings up vice president joe biden. the aide replies biden? did you say bite me? later, jim jones is called a clown. all of this coming at a turning point in the war with president obama sending more troops, general mccrystal overseeing a strategy with casualties mounting and no clear end in sight. we'll talk about the president's dilemma shortly with james carville, david gergen and peter bergen. first, michael hastings, who wrote the "rolling stones" article is in kandahar tonight. i spoke with him earlier this evening. michael, president obama said this shows a huge failure in judgment by general mccrystal to have done this article, to have said these things in front of a reporter. do you agree? >> that's a good question. is it a failure of judgment? i think it reflects general mccrystal's personality, which we've seen in the war over the past year. general mccrystal and his staff are willing to take risks and push the envelope. i guess what i'm saying, if it's a failure in judgment, or acting as mccrystal acts? he's a risk taker and sometimes pushes the envelope to get their message across. this time they may have gone too far. >> were you surprised by some of the thing that is they were so candid in front of you? it wasn't as if you had spent months with them, gaining their trust and they knew you. it seems as if you -- as i understand, you showed up and they started quickly allowing you in on scenes in paris where they were getting drunk and very -- talking freely. >> yes. i was surprised by the access immediately from getting off the plane in paris. this happened a few hours where i was off the plane, vice president biden where they joke about biden, bite me happened the next day. so i was very surprised. that next day also we announced on mccrystal's wedding anniversary and proceeded to drink a great deal. yes, i was very surprised by this kind of candor, they had some other reason for my being there, that they probably want ed to shake things up a little bit. >> you're saying you think they knowingly and intentionally brought you in and were saying things in front of you that would -- to what end result? why would they do this? in what way do you think they wanted to shake things up? >> that's just my -- you really have to ask him. what they were saying sort of had an agenda to it, very critical of many of the civilian policy makers. trying to figure out, am i being played here? what agenda are they trying to push? i'm trying to be as accurate and fair as possible. why are they saying these things in front of me? is it just bad judgment or are they trying to get a message out to shake things up on the policy? this is the most -- in my view, i think what has been a positive impact of this piece is that finally we're talking about the afghanistan policy in the united states again. because i think there are quite serious questions that need to be asked and quite fundamental flaws in the policy that aren't really being addressed. >> of all the things that you heard, what surprised you most? what comments really jumped out at you? >> i think i was quite surprised when they started to make fun of vice president biden. i was also quite surprised sitting across from general mccrystal at the hotel in paris and he pulled out his blackberry looked at it and said not another e-mail from corporate, meaning mr. holbrook and said i don't even want to open it. >> you also write about the first meeting with president obama. he said it was a ten-minute photo-op, says an adviser to mccrystal. obama clearly didn't know anything about him, who he was. here's the guy who's going to run his bleeping war. the boss was pretty disappointed. >> i'm very confident that was, in fact, the question general mccrystal had from that first meeting. you know, relations of president obama and general mccrystal, i think it's been clear from the beginning. dealing with the larger issue here of the pentagon going from george w. bush and president obama and the expectations general mccrystal may have had with president obama. >> michael hastings, it's a fascinating article, getting a huge amount of attention. you're in kandahar now. stay safe. >> appreciate it. take care. >> it is truly a remarkable article. what you think about what general mccrystal said. is too much being made about it? 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>> what's the most interesting thing, the only guy to lose his job so far is the civilian press aide who arranged an interview. this is the perfect metaphor for the united states in the 21st century. fire the press aide. i think he's going to have to resign or be fired. it's a shame. this guy obviously has a distinguished career, a great soldier, brave man. but this thing is -- he's not going to overcome this. and a lot of his senior staff are not going to overcome this. a lot of careers are going to be ruined over this. it's a tragedy, but this is going to be what happens here. obviously, he's not going to be able to continue. he will not be able to be effective in his role anymore. >> david gergen, do you agree with that? >> no. i think there should be a severe reprimand, both for what the general said and just allowing a press guy in to this locker room talk, team america out of south park movie. and it was insubordination. and the president's dilemma is, as he said to tony hayward of bp, if he worked for him, he would be fired a long time ago for the dumb things he has been saying. >> to your point, it's not the first time the president has had to take this guy to the wood shed. there were things he said about vice president biden's policies in afghanistan, the president called him in about, documents leaked out that he was blamed for, whether he did actually leak those documents the white house is furious about. still you're saying this is not enough for him to be fired for? >> the president has every reason to fire him but we're on the eve of the offensive, terrific soldier. harry truman put up with douglas macarthur for a long time before he did relieve him. lincoln put up with mcclellan despite humiliations because it was so necessary for the war in both cases. if the president wants to fire him, he can. but it could be a setback for the war. and that's more important. >> peter bergen, obviously this is difficult for the president. mccrystal was the guy he selected after getting rid of the last general. >> indeed, on may 11th of last year, general mckiernan, holdover from the bush administration was publicly fired by secretary gates and stan mccrystal effectively became president obama's pick for this position. and so widely regarded within the u.s. military as the best man for the job. and so president obama has a very difficult decision to make. >> it's interesting, peter. i just talked to the author, who said his belief was that they were intentionally saying this stuff around him. it wasn't as if this author, this writer, this journalist spent a lot of time building up their trust. he literally showed up in paris, they took him out drinking and started -- and made fun of vice president biden. he thinks almost they were trying to kind of send a message or shake things up. does that make any sense to you, peter? >> well, i think -- let me say something slightly different. i think it would be very hard to imagine general david petraeus or his team allowing a journalist to get this kind of access or make these kind of comments. it showed a naivety of general mccrystal and his team. the fact that a number of the most disparaging comments came from his aides is not a significant excuse for general mccrystal. some of the aides work with him 24/7. it's reflective of the kinds of things he's thinking or saying of the so, i don't buy simply because most of the disparaging comments came from the aides that doesn't necessarily represent mccrystal's thinking. it was obviously a very great lapse of judgment, described by everyone who knows him as the most disciplined man of the military. he obviously let his guard slip on this one. >> it's strange, james, because his sniping wasn't about strategy. it was about politics. mccrystal and his allies won the argument within the administration about how to handle afghanistan. >> well, it was. look, this is a very difficult situation, longest war in u.s. history. you would think somebody like general mccrystal, more than anybody, would understand this. and to -- here is the senior staff, engaging in this kind of talk and behavior, it doesn't give you very much confidence in the high command over there. and i'm sure they are all braven and distinguished soldiers but if the united states army is at a point where we can't fight a war unless we have one general, i just don't buy that. >> david, to james' point, how does he continue working with these people, who he has disparaged? not only vice president biden, but the ambassador and other folks. hillary clinton seems about the only person that his team had respect for. >> well, that's true, anderson. that was true before the article came out. he wasn't getting along with dick holbrook or ambassador eikenberry, a three-man team. one person he has been getting along well with is president karzai. they've formed a strong relationship. he doesn't want to see him go. he is very important to the war. i want to go back to this. the guy was insubordinate. the president has a right to fire him of that. it is a firing offense. who can prosecute this war well? general mccrystal at this point is the man in the position. if we pull him out right now it's a very, very sensitive time and could be a real setback for the war. >> james carville, david gergen, peter bergen, thank you very much. >> fascinating developments. stunning developments really. we'll have a lot more on that, obviously, tomorrow. the meeting is tomorrow at the white house. up next, my conversation with the governor of louisiana. six-month pause in deepwater oil drilling does not pass muster. jeffrey toobin was stunned by this decision, didn't think it would happen. what this man saw on deepwater horizon weeks before the blast. he said it wasn't safe and the blow-out preventer might not prevent anything. what happened when he says he told his bosses. s? 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[ male announcer ] call today or go to esurance.com. got a broken railroad crossing alarm going. that's had an that sound is. it's a simple fact of life down here, not easy nor pretty. if you don't drill, people don't eat. if you do drill and there's a mishap, people don't eat either. in this case, 11 people don't come home alive. the obama administration ordered a six-month halt on deepwater drilling. a federal judge ordered the moratorium was costing jobs without evidence that it was posing a threat. there are questions being raised about liberal bloggers about the judge and his investments in oil companies. we'll talk to jeffrey toobin about all of that in a moment. first, my conversation with governor bobby jindal. >> they say they're going to appeal this and going ahead with deepwater drilling is unsafe without knowing exactly what happened on the deepwater horizon. >> two things. one, we're certainly pleased to see the judge's ruling. i would hope the administration would reconsider. asked the administration, listen to the eight experts they hand picked. we didn't pick them. they picked them. those eight experts met with secretary salazar, put their names on the letter saying they didn't recommend the six-month moratorium. they think drilling can be done safely, inspect the pressure, check the bops, every one of these platforms one at a time and says the six-month moratorium won't do anything to create safety in the gulf, will cause impact. we want drilling to be done safely. nobody in louisiana wants another spill, another explosion, another avoidable -- another tragic loss of life. we're also saying listen to the experts. let's do this right and do this safely. >> if politics and the economic impact wasn't an issue for you -- obviously as governor that's a huge issue. economic impact on the people of your state. if that wasn't an issue, purely on safety grounds, how can you argue that some sort of pause does not make sense? >> i've agreed a pause makes sense. i have no problem saying we're stopping for a period of time and while we do that, here are the specific things we're going to do. but listen to some of the suggestions our own delegation has made to them. allow them to drill but not up to the oil reservoir so you don't have a danger and still have people put to work. i have no problem with the pause. what i'm saying is listen to the experts. don't listen to me as the elected governor of louisiana. listen to the experts they, themselves, appointed. >> one of the things william riley, republican co-chair of the commission the president has set up, he said in the open hearings we discovered basically a number of major oil companies have the same response plans, a number of them have walruses in their plans for the gulf, can deal with 200,000 barrels. clearly, if they have xeroxed copies of the same spill plan and the bp spill plan wasn't working, clearly those spill plans don't seem to be adequate either. >> say we'll pause it until they fix the plan. i don't have a problem with that. i don't have a problem with any pause on specific actions they're taking with specific changes. i have a problem with is an arbitrary six-month moratorium. they're not even meeting until next month. what are they waiting for? a commission that doesn't include the kind of experts on board that they actually convened when they made the first recommendations. nobody down here -- i'm certainly not down here saying don't take a pause, don't have a stop while you review your work. i'm saying hurry up and do this work properly. the federal government needs to provide proper oversight. the fact they're not doing their jobs is costing thousands of louisianians our jobs. i'm not objecting to a pause. you and i both have seen the firsthand effects of this oil. i don't want a company with an inadequate plan. the plan bp had was not adequate. i'm saying, take it seriously. listen to the experts. get it done as quickly as they can safely. don't give me an arbitrary six-month moratorium. >> governor, thanks. appreciate t louisiana's governor bobby jindal earlier today. jeffrey toobin, on this program last night you didn't think the judge would rule this way. today you said you are flabbergasted. what do you say today? >> i say i was wrong. the federal government saw an oil slick spreading across the gulf of mexico. an environmental disaster greater than any in history. they appoint a group of experts. they take a month to study the problem. they say we're not going to shut down these wells for all time, but we're going to take six months. it seems like a pretty reasonable response to this crisis, yet here you have a federal judge saying it is an arbitrary and capricious act. i think the administration has a lot of ways to get around the judge's ruling, including a direct appeal. >> they've already said they're going to appeal. secretary of the interior, ken salazar struck back in a statement saying he will issue another order in the next few look at the 33 rigs. and look what they are going, their safety risks, what their equipment is and judge it according to that. >> that is one option and that is something they may pursue. this is what you have reported. the biggest environmental disaster in the history of the united states. and moratorium on only 33 wells which is not that many compared to how many are in a call from mexico. it does not seem like an extreme and temper reaction on the part of the minister should. they can do other things and go about this in different ways. barack obama was elected president of the united states. the judge was not elected anything the idea that he could simply ground that he didn't like the way the president's team went about making this decision, that's a pretty draconian step on the part of a judge. so, you know, it's a question of who makes the decision. >> what do you make of liberal groups and liberal bloggers have been making a lot about the judge -- that the judge owned stock in oil companies. i mean, i tend to think a lot of people around here -- a lot of people across the country own stock in oil companies. should he have recused himself of this or do you think it's much adore about nothing? >> i don't think it's much ado about nothing but there's no corruption here. he has been on the bench since the reagan administration, very respected judge. like most federal judges in louisiana and texas and, in fact, much of the world, he is an upper middle class republican lawyer who was appointed to the bench and those people, particularly in that part of the country seem to be sympathetic to the oil industry, has investments in the oil industry. i don't think this is any sort of scandal. it indicates who is on the federal bench. >> jeff toobin, more from the gulf coming up. let's go. come on. hurry up. 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[ children laughing ] this summer put your family in an exceptionally engineered mercedes-benz now for an exceptional price during the summer event. like the 2010 c-class, an iihs top safety pick. here she is a moment ago, thanking her supporters. if elected in november, she would become the state's first female governor. adding the pakistani taliban to its list of terror organizations after faisal shahzad said he received funding from the group before attempting to set off a car bomb in times square last month. the american accused of trying to hunt down osama bin laden in pakistan is no longer in custody in islamabad and is headed back to the u.s. gary faulkner was released without being charged, arrested near the afghanistan border last week. archaeologists found had an they believe to be the oldest known images of the apostles andrew and john beneath the city of rome. it is thought to be part of a noble woman's tomb. spirit airlines, fresh off the five-day pilot strikes makes the disaster into the gulf what many are calling a sick one-liner. it proclaims check out the oil on our beaches and features bikini-clad women in suntan oil. what's interesting about that ad, the one gulf coast destination that they fly to, tampa, florida, not featured in the ad. >> interesting. and should point out most of the beaches in the gulf are open for business and are totally fine. mississippi and beaches in alabama and florida. >> right. >> obviously that will be offensive to a lot of people. randi, appreciate it. back here in the gulf, vessels of opportunity program will give commercial fishermen an opportunity to work. fishermen say they've registered, waited and called and got no response. they came to a meeting with bp officials to get answers but instead they got the run around. gary tuchman is keeping them honest. >> he is working on his crabbing boat but it's on his front lawn, not the water. that's his fishing boat and shrimping boat boat. >> are you making any money? >> none at all. not a dollar. >> last year, carl and his wife, mary, earned $120,000, mainly from selling his catch at this now empty roadside stand. now with the ban on fishing, nothing. he applied for bp's so-called vessel of opportunity program. they pay for boats and crews to help in the cleanup. it is intended for people like carl, fishermen with boats who have lost their livelihood. after carl applied, he heard nothing. >> you called up, said what's going on? what did they tell you? >> they told us we needed to bring -- >> they didn't know where our paperwork was. >> that we weren't in the system. >> you weren't in the system? >> no. >> weeks want by and you weren't in the system? >> no. >> same thing happened to thomas barrios. >> we called. so far it seemed like no one knew who we were. >> he fishes to supply the restaurant that they own. this is what the restaurant looked like at lunch hour, little seafood and no customers. >> i'm so sad that we're about to lose everything. >> many say they've had the same bad experience with this bp program. >> last night he asked them at the meeting and they say -- he said are we going to get a call? and they said not necessarily. that don't mean you're going to get a call. just wait by the phone for a call. >> so that's what we're depending on. >> he said basically you got maybe a 25% chance of getting hired and he told me to go talk to another guy and just sent me down to a number of people. >> bp lifted its controversial rule of keeping contractors from talking to journalists. we want to talk to you about the vessels of opportunity and why so many people who want to be part of it aren't being contacted. >> i'm sorry, i can't comment. >> he made it very specific contractors are allowed to talk. >> they've not given me that information. >> bp has told you you can't talk? >> they've told me -- refer your request to judy paul. >> has bp said you can't talk to the media? >> they told me to refer media requests. >> this have they told you not to talk to the media? >> they told me to refer requests to judy paul. >> we did call bp's judy paul. she wasn't available. another bp employee did get back to us. steve rinehart said these vessels and crews with their knowledge of local waters and conditions are very valuable assets in this response. these families hope bp keeps its word. >> my hopes and dreams for the future was this restaurant. we were hoping that we would be able to retire on it one day and pass it on to our children. but now the uncertainty of not knowing is the hardest part of all this mess. >> it's so tough to see those people in that situation when, obviously, you feel like their boats should be out there. there's also a complaint of people coming out of state getting jobs that locals probably could do as well. >> that's right. that's what a lot of people, like these families we talked with, are concerned about. the fact is bp says they do, indeed, need more people. that's what make this is lack of communication, lack of organization so infuriating. >> is it possible they don't want to spend money to hire more people? >> they say they do want to spend the money. this isn't charity. the average person on this program, captain of a boat gets paid $1,500 a day. that's why they're so desperate when they don't hear back from bp. >> gary, keeping them honest. still ahead, a whistleblower speaks out. he says he warned of problems with equipment on the deepwater horizon, specifically the blow-out preventer below the deepwater horizon weeks before the explosion. he says nobody listened. also lenny kravitz about the life here in new orleans. he has a long connection to this city. what he has to say about the disaster, and how life here is still strong. coming up, the big "360" interview. oh, phillips' colon health probiotic plus fiber. how's it work? ok, she's gas. he's constipation... why am i constipation? ...he's diarrhea. and our special fiber helps our probiotics so that you can show those symptoms who's in charge. this isn't even my floor. [ elevator bell dings ] tonight an interview with a survivor of the deepwater horizon. his job was critical, to send down cameras and inspect the well, the rig, the blow-out preventer, checking for anything unusual. weeks before the explosion, he says he found it, a cloud in the water. it was a leak, he says. he talked to special investigations unit drew griffin about what he says he saw and what happened after the discovery was made. >> tyrone benton may well have seen the first signs that something was very, very wrong on the deepwater horizon. >> did you ever get close enough to the leak to see what exactly was leaking? >> yes. we flew down to the pod and saw that there was an angular fitting that had a leak on it. what was connected to the angular fitting, wasn't anal to see. but an angular fitting did have a leak. >> the mechanisms that control the blow-out preventer. if they don't work, the blow-out preventer doesn't work. a leak, even if only a trickle, is a warning. >> yeah. abnormal. >> abnormal enough that you reported it to your company, to transocean, to bp? >> that's correct. >> one pod is always working. the other, says university of texas petroleum engineer, tad patzek, is designed as its immediate backup. >> i don't think there's any discussion of that basic fact. and the basic fact is that you have to do whatever it takes to fix fully the blow-out preventer as soon as you can. >> he says the solution is to immediately close off the well, raise the blow-out preventer, find out what's wrong and fix it. >> anything less than that, you know, might have led or probably led to a major failure of the well and the results are well known. >> back on board the deepwater horizon several weeks before the explosion, tyrone benton knew that the bop, blow-out preventer, was at possible risk for failure. >> and it was taken care of? >> it wasn't taken care of. in order for it to be taken care of, you need to pull the whole bop, which would shut down production. from my understanding, they shut down one pod and worked off the other. >> tyrone, 11 people dead. >> yes. >> for the better part of a day, the leak was studied, observed, measured. the most prudent course to fix it, says benton, was ruled out. so, instead? >> they went ahead and shut down that yellow pod and started working off the other pod. >> you liken that to shutting off one engine of a twin engine plane. >> that's correct. >> you can do it? >> yes. >> but not ideal. >> if you have to, you can. >> day after day, says benton, the fluid leak continued and day after day, bp and transocean were notified. >> you're the first person that's come forward that i know of that said, we had this problem. it was a leak. instead of properly fixing the leak, officials from bp and transocean decided to bypass that leak. it's hard to determine, as you said, whether or not that leak had anything to do with this. but certainly the prudent thing, the most safe thing to do would have been to pull up that blow-out preventer, fix it and put it back down. is that not correct? >> yeah, you could look at it that way, yes. >> no one listened and a few weeks later, tie ron benton was lying in his bunk on the deepwater horizon when the first explosion knocked him out of bed. the second covered him in debris, as he scrambled to find his flashlight, it was pitch black. >> panic on board, screaming? >> panic, screaming, people jumping overboard. it was completely chaos. and i could hear my supervisor telling everybody, let's go, let's go. let's get in the lifeboats. we've got to go. we've got to go. he kept his head. he kept his cool. most of us were just panicking and wanted to go like right now. but we had to wait for everybody. so we sat on that rig as long as we possibly could for everyone to be accounted for. >> not everybody was accounted for. >> there was a point where you have to say we have to go. and we made it to that point. >> of the 11 who never made it to the lifeboat, benton says many were close friends. he is now suing bp and transocean for emotional and physical injuries. bp spokesman wouldn't comment on reports of a leak but did say bp is determined to get to the bottom of what caused the explosion. >> so, drew, why is tyrone benton coming forward now and thrusting himself basically into this firestorm? >> i think you can tell, anderson, from that interview, he somewhat reluctantly is coming forward. he was tracked down by a british newspaper, gave them one quote and his life hasn't been the same. he is very shy in front of the camera. after that interview told his lawyer, look, he doesn't want to do this anymore. he doesn't want to do any more interviews. that may have been his last. >> already, at least one of the companies on the rig is challenging what the engineer is saying. >> yeah. british petroleum, no comment on what he was saying. transocean sent us a statement tonight, directly challenging benton saying, look, this bop preventer was tested in the days and the weeks before this event. it checked out okay. everything was working. they're really not sure what benton is talking about, but transocean is also saying that they are continuing to investigate, because obviously they don't know yet what went wrong on this rig. >> all right. drew, appreciate it. drew griffin. up next, lenny kravitz on the life in new orleans. less travel? 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