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80 rounds and scrambled f-16 fighter jets. >> the initial target was the south korean island in the yellow sea. reports say two soldiers were killed, more than a dozen injured by artillery fire. jill dougherty's following developments live in washington. jill, this is not the first time this island has been a flash point between the two nations. >> that's right, john. it's right along that maritime border. it's called the northern limit line between north korea and south korea. and just back in march, you had that sinking of the ship. it's really a flash point. this is a serious provocation. the it's not just a few little gun shots. this is artillery shells being lobbed from the north into the south. now the united states had a very quick reaction. and i'll read it here. the u.s. strongly condemns this attack, calls on north korea to halt its belligerent action and fully abide by the terms of the arms disagreement. the united states is firmly committed to the defense of our ally, the republic of korea, and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability. there already was, by the way, a team that was sent from the state department just over the weekend in connection with another development with north korea. and that was a revelation of a nuclear facility, or uranium enrichment facility. so that team now, i understand, is supposed to be in china today. it's a very apt time for them to be there. they're consulting with the allies. the chinese are very cautiously talking about this, wanting more clarification. the russians are saying that they are hoping that this will not escalate. so there's a lot of concern about this, john. it's quite serious. >> all right, jill dougherty for us this morning. we'll continue to follow the developments as they happen throughout the day. thank you. well, it's getting very tense and a little bit strange at america's airports. more and more travelers are taking exception to enhanced security techniques and taking it out at the tsa screeners. >> the screeners are demanding enhanced security of their own. the union representing tsa workers says its members have reported instances in some which passengers have gotten physical with the screeners. they claim they need protection from the public. nearly 2/3 of americans approve of the scanners, but it's the enhanced pat downs that many don't like. half of those polled believe that they go too far. well, the day before thanksgiving, tomorrow, is the single busiest travel day of the year. it also happens to be national opt out day. that's an internet movement calling on passengers to boycott body scans and ask for pat downs tomorrow at airport security check points. >> to ask for the pat down and ask for witnesses to have it happen in front of other passengers. the tsa is trying to, you know, sell, i guess you could say the public on these enhanced measures. just in terms of a reality check, what is this going to do to airports today? >> well, that's interesting. you have to think about this. people want this national opt out day, at least a small group of people want it. but really, is it going to happen? that lot of these people are traveling. a lot of these people want to get to where they're going. so whether they're going to push back. there is an element of hostility at the airport these days, with the tsa agents wanting their own protection. people on edge. they've gotten so many terror warnings and threats, there's a ready anxiety. add to that all this screening, this touching, prying, invasion of privacy as some people are calling it. and that simply escalates the situation. john pistole, the head of the agency of the tsa, he has gone on the offensive really or the defensive i should say thanking people for their patience, for their understanding during this difficult time. he's releasing an announcement at the airports today. and i think we have a small clip of that. let's listen. >> you have important options that we want you to be aware of. you have the option to request that the pat down be conducted in a private room and have that witnessed by the person o of your choice. >> it's so interesting, because when he says you can go into a private room, for many people that doesn't make the it right. but again, is there going to be a significant backlash at the airports today and tomorrow? that has yet to be determined. but again, the tsa is stressing the reason these rules are in place is because of the threats that we're seeing. the cargo threats. also, we're seeing the underwear bomber threat. will these devices stop it? it always seems that america's findi i fighting the last attack. and that's another issue on the minds of people as they go to the airport. >> we had the shoe bomber, so you have to take off your shoes. you can't bring toner cartridges onboard. are we already securing for the last attack? >> as a matter of fact, a number of the security experts say there's not a forward-thinking plan. is this really going to work? or is this just going to stop those attacks that we've seen in the past? i was reading something recently that said basically al qaeda tells its members if you're ever captured, just stall for three days. try not to confess anything, because within three days they can revamp, go back and make sure they're safe in what they're doing. so there really is is that element. >> and the other point -- today and we were talking a lot about in the newsroom today. you're either going through the scanners or getting the enhanced screenings or pat downs at certain airports, just the ones that visit. and all the other airports, are they making the inference we're less safe at those airports? >> well, they're doing the routine screening. the routine screening worked, but may not stop against different things. i went through one of those x-rays. and what was fascinating was that they detected a credit card i'd kept in my pocket. they could see that level of detail. but again, it has you thinking. so i have a credit card in my pocket, i can take the credit card out of my pocket, but it wouldn't have triggered an alarm. i spoke to a behavioral expert. he says this is the beginning of a learning curve we have for this kind of of security. initially when we went through the original pat downs, those seemed invasive. now the stakes are higher. again, it's just getting used to this whole process, you know. in five years time, there may be something even more that they're doing and we'll be going, boy, do you remember the days when they had the good old x-rays? >> well, in all fairness, we know the damage you can do with a credit card. >> just let me go. >> deb, thanks so much. well, this morning, we want to get down to the facts. there's a lot of confusion about airport security. and a lot of you have questions about what you need to know before catching that holiday flight. >> jacqui jeras is live at the travel desk. what tips should i know before i go through security? and we're talking about what you decide to wear and how important that may be. >> yeah, it can make a huge difference. unless you're a really seasoned traveler, the whole process can be really, really intimidating. knowing what to do to get you through security can take a lot less time and make things a lot easier for your trip. let's talk about that what not to wear or what to wear. any metal that you have on you is a no-no. try and avoid things like studs on your clothing, any big zippers, big belt buckles and that type of thing. bras that have underwires, that can make the detectors go off. that's something you want to think about and look at, as well. baggy clothes. it's harder to get the pat down, harder to see what's going on there if you're wearing baggy clothes. if you wear tighter-fitting clothes, pants as opposed to a skirt that might get you through easier, as well. also, you've got to follow the rules. planning ahead by what you pack can make a huge difference as to whether or not you get through there. remember that 3-1-1 rule? where you take that one quart bag, one of these bags per person and every liquid item you have needs to go in here. it needs to be a see through bag and all of these have to be 3.4 ounces or less. that's a big thing to get those liquids going through there. and don't forget to take the liquids out of your purse, by the way, ladies, as well. of course your laptop, any electronic devices you have, that needs to be taken out of the container and go through that security line, as well. and for those of your parents trying to bring your dvd players, that's an electronic too. that needs the to come out. and all of those things put together can make a big difference. also, shoes. everybody has to take your shoes off. don't forget your booties if you're going without socks. you don't want bare feet on that floor. and if your shoes are slip-ones, that makes it quicker too. >> yeah, make sure everything can come off quickly and get back on quickly. we all know you can opt for a pat down if you go through the scanner. what options do you have if a pat-down is required? >> well, you can have somebody come with you. you can ask to be taken to a private room so this isn't done publicly. and you can choose the person, by the way. if you have a travel companion with you, you might feel a little more comfortable having them. >> all right. thanks, jacqui. >> sure. >> we also want to hear from you if we have any questions or you think all of this is ridiculous. we'd like to get your thoughts. go to cnn.com/amfix. you can also put it on facebook.com/americanmorning. twitter we're amfix. a bladder cancer survivor from michigan says he's accepted an apology from the tsa after an enhanced pat-down left him crying and covered in urine. the 61-year-old retired teacher told us he was at metro earlier this month when a tsa screener didn't want to hear about his medical condition. >> it was embarrassing. very embarrassing. it's been three years for me, so i'm used to it now. but it's not something i like to show to the world. i think one of the biggest fears for all of the patients is we'll have a leak in public let alone at an airport. >> and once thomas sawyer's story went public, it didn't take long for john pistole to pick up the phone and apologize. >> i did reach out for him, suzanne, because i was concerned when i heard this report. because we are -- our goal is to treat each and every traveler with dignity and respect. and if that doesn't happen, then obviously i want to take corrective action. i wanted to get all of the facts about the matter. so i did reach out for him. and his concern was that he tried to explain his situation to the security office who did not want to pry into his personal life. and so he actually offered at the end of the conversation to help provide training to our officers from the standpoint of just helping inform. if you encounter somebody like this with this type of external medical device, here's how you can best engage them. so it was a very helpful conversation. >> so how is thomas sawyer feeling about how he wants air travelers with medical conditions to be handled by the tsa? he'll be joining us live at 8:10 eastern to talk more about that. dreaming of a white thanksgiving? you should book a trip to utah. there is a blizzard warning for salt lake city and beyond. you've got to get there fast because travel may be tough, even impossible by tonight. north dakota getting a taste of that right now. almost 13 inches of snow there stacking up at a pace at almost an inch an hour. and that was almost twice what was predicted for the fargo area. and another storm moving in tomorrow could bring 4 to 6 more inches. a rare november tornado caught on camera near rockford, illinois. the storm tipped over a school bus. in fact, six kids had to go to the hospital with minor injuries. as many as seven twisters were reported in northern illinois and southern wisconsin. no report so far of anyone seriously hurt. get a quick check of the morning's headlines. see how it's going to be today. rob marciano in the extreme weather center. what's it looking like? >> well, you know, today's going to be the day where we take a bit of a breather, i suppose, because we've got that storm out west that's going to replace the storm that came through the midwest yesterday. that produced that tornado and record high temperatures. so very volatile atmosphere. and usually when we get one large system or volatile system moving through, that calms things out and the atmosphere needs time to recharge. but what's coming in behind this midwest system is even stronger. let's deal with this one first. the front itself that produced the tornadoes across parts of wisconsin and illinois has pushed off to the east. with don't expect severe weather, although the thunderstorms down to the south across the tennessee valley are on the rough side. nashville, specifically, into lexington and heading east towards knoxville and northern parts of georgia. heavy rain, gusty winds, and under the and lightning. back the to the west we go. this is a storm of note that is really starting to intensify quite rapidly. and we have blizzard warnings up for a number of states here. we're going to see winds gusting at least over 40 to 50 miles an hour, but the sustained winds and that blowing snow in populated areas like salt lake city is what's going to be a problem. there are 12 states right now under a winter storm warnings, watches, or advisories. and those are large states encompassing about 1/3 of the country out west. we'll see a couple feet in the mountains and places that don't typically get snow. seattle and portland notably, and you'll see travel delays for sure. and this is all sliding off to the east to replace a system that's pushing off to the east, as well. we'll talk details of of what's going to happen tomorrow and on thursday for places like new york city, like chicago, in about 30 minutes. john and kiran? >> rob marciano for us this morning. you're busy today. thanks so much. still ahead, what really happened to natalee holloway? we could find out in a matter of hours when test results on a jawbone found in aruba are released. she is is everywhere. and yes, she is going to iowa. is she already running? a closer look at sarah palin's all-out media blitz. and if she needs the so-called mainstream media to be a force in 2012. join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance, and no cost replacement of wear and tear items. visit your jaguar dealer during the platinum celebration for a $599 lease offer on the 2011 xf. until...cascade complete pacs. the best of powder and gel in one pac combine to conquer tough foods and greasy messes. cascade complete pacs. combine and conquer. ♪ coming up now on 18 minutes after the hour. and hope is fading this morning for 29 new zealand coal miners trapped underground since friday. there's been no communication with the miners since last week's explosion. that volatile mix of gases is making it too risky for rescuers to enter the mine. well, it's small comfort to the family of chandra levy, but there is a guilty verdict in her death. he now faces life in prison when he's sentenced in february. and the new york developers behind a controversial islamic center and mosque near ground zero are reportedly seeking a $5 million federal grant to help pay for the project. that money has been set aside for redeveloping lower manhattan after 9/11. critics have fought the islamic center saying its close proximity to ground zero would be an insult to 9/11 victims. you may remember velma hart who at a town hall meeting in washington, d.c. got national attention when she told the president that she was exhausted from defending him and that she feared for her financial future and expected more from him. >> frankly i'm exhausted. i'm exhausted of defending you, defending your administration, defending the mantle of change that i voted for. and deeply disappointed with where we are right now. my husband and i joked for years that we thought we were well beyond the hotdogs and beans era of our lives. but quite frankly, it's starting to knock on our door and ring true that might be where we're headed again. and quite frankly, mr. president, i need you to answer this honestly. is this my new reality? >> very eloquent the way she put it. and unfortunately, hart's fears were well-founded. she's been laid off by her job. she was a chief financial officer for a nonprofit veterans operation in maryland. she was a good employee who had to be cut because of hard times. looks like david pluff is joining the white house staff. he's bringing his former campaign manager onboard in january. plouffe will work alongside axelrod. ed henry is reporting that axelrod may leave his post in late january. that's a little bit ahead of schedule. and joe miller's not going down without a fight. the want to be senator from alaska. challenging the write-in votes in alaska's senate race. miller claims that his state's laws are clear that voters who misspelled lisa murkowski's name should not be counted. murkowski's victory is scheduled to be certified next week. miller's suit, though, could push that back. and it's only 13 months till 2012, so we might as well talk about this. sarah palin may not be able to beat barack obama in 2012, but mitt romney can. there's just one problem, mitt romney can't beat sarah palin for the nomination right now. all according to a new poll. it found that voters favor president obama over sarah palin 48% to 40%. they prefer romney, though, over president obama 45% to 44%. but here's the rub for romney. palin remains the choice of republicans with a slim one-point lead over romney. so if they were to have the primaries today, she'd become the nominee. >> well, really it's a draw, though. because the margin of error is plus or minus two. >> there you go getting all technical. >> come on. oprah's favorite things. paramedics report on one hand for one huge surprise. did i say that correctly? 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(announcer) everything you need to stay balanced on long trips. residence inn. coming up on the half hour now. cnn is your travel headquarters. forget for a second what you might have heard. it's time for a tsa reality check. kate bolduan now separating fact from fiction. >> reporter: kyle whitney could hop on a plane and be home for the holidays in just one hour. but this season, he's opting for what he considers the hassle-free option. a seven-hour train ride to avoid new airport security measures. >> i don't like the practices that i've seen. and it's just one more reason not to go through with the ordeal of flying. >> reporter: the new measures from the transportation security administration have set off a wave of criticism and frustration among passengers. shown here in photos from denverpost.com are the pat downs some call extreme. and there's also the revealing full-body scanner machines. so what can air travelers expect this holiday season. most will walk through metal detectors. only 69 airports in the country, about 12%, have full-body scanners. for those who do go through full-body scanners, the tsa says they're safe. the exposure to radiation is less than you'd receive in two minutes of flight. and passengers will only receive the enhanced pat-down if they refuse the full-body scanner, set off the scanner's alarm, or set off the metal detector's alarm or are randomly selected. the tsa says children under 12 who require extra screening will receive a modified pat-down. john pistole told candy crowley, the challenge is finding a balance between passenger's privacy and doing their job to keep those passengers safe. >> clearly if we are to detect terrorists who, again, have proven innovative and creative in their design and implementation of bombs that are going to blow up airplanes and kill people, then we have to do something that prevents that. >> despite the controversy, pistole says the procedures are staying in place for now. kate bolduan, cnn, washington. well, now we're crossing the half hour. time for a look at our top stories. a stunning military confrontation between north and south korea. reports say the north hit a south korean island with some 200 artillery rounds. at least two soldiers killed and a dozen more hurt. south korea then fired back, scrambling f-16 fighter jets. the south has convened an emergency meeting of the security ministers. heavy snow across our nation's northern tier with more on the way. there's a blizzard warning. for most of utah and tornadoes tore through parts of wisconsin and illinois leaving a trail of destruction behind. anger in ireland. about 100 protesters got into shoving matches with police and forced their way through gates of government buildings. angry over the decision to take a multibillion dollar bailout from the eu and the international monetary fund. well, it's been five years now since alabama teenager natalee holloway disappeared in aruba. and her family has had no answers. >> that's right. it could change in a matter of hours, though, when aruban prosecutors reveal whether a jawbone they found on the island beach belongs to holloway. cnn's martin savage with the latest details. hi, martin. >> reporter: morning, kiran. morning, john. yeah, this is the day where we could possibly see the resolution of what has been a 5 1/2-year mystery. i underline the word could. the information will come out of the prosecutor's office. the bone was discovered on november 12th, it was quickly looked at by a dentist on the island. the dentist ascertained he believed it was a human jawbone and it came from a young female. that's tantalizing enough. then it was sent overseas to the hague where the experts took a look at it. and the first thing you're going to want to hear is whether or not that bone truly is human. if it is, that's significant. but then, is there anything that possibly links it? either through dental records or dna to natalee holloway. if there was a link, it would be huge. if there isn't, then it's going to chalk up as another one of those false leads and false hopes. and there have been so many of those in this story over the years since i've been covering it. we've been talking with beth,. then you have dave holloway, who is natalee's father, he says he is optimistic there will be some answer. whatever it is, it's going to come out of this building some time this afternoon and we'll be here waiting for the information. john and kiran? >> is there anything significant about the location that the jawbone was found on that beach? >> reporter: actually, john, there is, yes. it was found outside the hotel, which is one of many that line the strip here along the beach front. but behind that hotel is a bird sanctuary. an area that's overgrown. and it is one of the areas that has been theorized over the years as a possible place where if you wanted to dispose of a body you would do that. so that's why this isn't just looked at as kind of a random event. if the bone actually showed up near that bird sanctuary, it could prove that one of the earlier theorys is correct. but still, there's a long way to go and scientific evidence yet to come out. we'll find out later today. >> we'll check in with you again. thanks so much. it's never too soon to start your holiday online shopping, of course. great deals out there. also a lot of traps. what you need to look out for this holiday. and a closer look at sarah palin's all-out media blitz. does she even need the mainstream media to make a run for the big prize? 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one thing about these surveys, you guys, in the past people would say i'm going to cut back this year and then they didn't because it's easy to get, you know, it's easy to get caught up in the sales of the impulse buys and alike. but this year, it might be more difficult because you might not have that limit on your credit card. so a few things i wanted to give you tips. really important stuff to remember if you are one of those people spending more this year. especially if you are shopping online. because we are seeing a surge in interest in online shopping. look out for restocking fees. this started last year. i've personally been slammed with this. this means you buy something, particularly in electronics, it's not what you wanted, you send it back, you pay 20% sometimes. so be careful about that. also one-of-a-kind type items, interesting gift items, sometimes this can happen. don't shop using public wi-fi. there are people out there who are salivating this time of the year to get your financial information and get your financial information by using public wi-fi. don't use any shopping on public wi-fi. don't wire money to pay for something on ebay. remember, use your paypal account or secure credit card. and be of the urls. you know how twitter and facebook, someone will send you something, might even have a tantalizing little, you know, little review. be careful because there are hackers, bad guys who are out there sending these things out with a url. you can't see if it's been shortened what you're going to click on. you could be clicking on to something that's going to do bad things to your computer or it might be a scam. be careful about that. >> christine romans with good tips this morning. >> you're welcome. still to come this morning, we're your holiday travel headquarters. rob marciano will be up right after the break. don't go away. 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[ female announcer ] one a day women's. ♪ good morning, new york. well, right now it's 52 degrees. got clouds out there. later on today, 62 degrees, and unfortunately, it's going to be a rainy day. >> at least it's a little warmer. well, in a city south of boston where the red sox, of course, are a source of pride, so now are red hats. massachusetts broke the record for most santa hats worn at the same time. they set the record two years ago, but then last year a town in ireland topped them. but then, of course, sox fans hate to lose. this year, the final count 872 santas. congrats. >> that's a lot of santas in one place. rob marciano in the extreme weather center for us. good morning, rob. >> brockton, home of rocky marciano. no relation, you'd know that if you ever saw me fight. that's the one nice thing i'll say about that part of the world. 26 degrees right now in kansas city, 30 in chicago, but 53 in new york, 52 degrees in d.c. so you see where the warm air is. as a matter of fact, we've had record high temperatures. and this contrast in temperatures spawned some severe weather. check out this video coming out of rockford, illinois. caledonia had some injuries with this because of a school bus that tipped over. dramatic stuff, about 1/2 mile wide was the tornado that rolled through northern parts of illinois yesterday. there it is on the videotape. it really could have been a lot worse as far as the damage and the injuries are concerned. so the injuries that did happen were on the not so serious side. so we'll certainly take that. record highs yesterday, kind of fueling the fire. montgomery, alabama, 81. tulsa, oklahoma, 79, peoria, illinois, 73 degrees. if it felt toasty or warm across the big apple yesterday, it was. there's a little moisture heading your way. most of the stuff up north is weak. the stuff down to the south is a little bit stronger, little more bang for your buck here in lexington. knoxville, huntsville, memphis, getting hard this morning with thunderstorms about to taper off. little rock, as well. and it'll all push to the south and east as we go through the day today. so look for some travel delays on the wet side because of that. on the slick side and cold side out west. blizzard warnings are posted for parts of utah. and this is a tremendous storm for this time of year. dropped down from the pacific northwest, is powered by a lot of cold air. seattle saw accumulating snow. that is rare any time of year, especially in the month of november. and right now, they're getting hammered in the sierra nevadnev. this snow is coming on the heels of some other serious storms where they've piled up 4, 5, 6 feet of snow. this is not going to have a lot of snow with it, but a lot of wind. very powerful storm and that wind will create blizzard conditions throughout the day today and tomorrow. this front pushes off towards the east. and as far as the snows that we expect out west, yeah, well across the sierras, we're looking for a couple of feet there. in through utah and colorado, we'll probably see a couple of feet. but the snow will be blowing sideways. let's talk today, wednesday, and thursday. that storm takes a similar track to the last one. across the western great lakes, good news for the east coast. that means the bulk of the cold air will stay across the great lakes. that's where you'll see the winter type of precipitation. mostly ice and snow again for minneapolis. i think it'll be mostly rain across chicago, and mostly rain for the east coast before the cold air gets in here and that turkey probably will be on the frozen side come friday and saturday. everyone get a little piece of the cold air then. >> rob, thanks so much. we'll see you again soon for the forecast. well, cnn is your travel headquarters and everyone wants to know what to expect when they go to the airport. especially with the growing controversy about security pat downs. so if you have an i-report from an airport, head to our blog cnn.com/amfix, facebook.com/americanmorning and on twitter. this morning's top stories a few minutes away, including outrage at the airport. well, now security is asking for its own security saying that some of the passengers are getting nasty. we're going to take a look at what you can expect if you're traveling tomorrow. what could be the first real evidence of natalee holloway's death five years after she vanished in aruba? waiting for forensic tests on a jawbone found on a beach. those stories and more beginning at the top of the hour. don't go away. 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>> well, i sat next to her once. thought she was beautiful. and i think she's very happy in alaska. and i hope she'll stay there. >> reporter: media critic, host of cnn's reliable sources says for the most part, her strategy is working. she's getting a lot of attention and controlling her message. >> the second that sarah palin decides to run for president, if she does, then she steps out of this protective cocoon. then she can't only go on fox, and script her family's image through a tlc reality show. she may not want to put up for that kind of scrutiny. but even for sarah palin, that will be the price of admission to start campaigning in iowa and new hampshire. >> but palin is indicating she won't repeat something she did in 2008, and that is to do an interview with cbs's katie couric. in 2008, she stumbled over a number of couric's questions. fast forward to today speaking to fox, palin calls couric bias and won't do another interview with her. cnn, new york. >> another thing to consider, as well, analysts i talked to about this, she's making a ton of money now. is she going to want to give that up to run? >> sounds like it from all -- >> potentially. my money's on her running. i think she will. >> it'll be interesting. a lot of people saying if you're going to new hampshire, iowa, south carolina, those voters want to meet you. they put you through the wringer. they ask you any question and want an answer. top stories coming your way after the break. stay with us. uh, a little help... oh! you know shipping is a lot easier with priority mail flat rate boxes. if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. plus, you can print and pay for postage online. and i can pick them up for free with package pickup. perfect! cause i'm gonna need a lot of those. wow! i knew i should have brought my sleigh. priority mail flat rate shipping starts at $4.90 only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance, and no cost replacement of wear and tear items. visit your jaguar dealer during the platinum celebration for a $599 lease offer on the 2011 xf. good morning on this tuesday, november 23rd. thanks for joining us on "american morning," i'm john roberts. >> and i'm kiran chetry. here's a look at this morning's top stories. the major military clash on the korean peninsula. a deadly attack on a south korean island. two korean soldiers were killed and more than a dozen others wounded. the south retaliate scrambling f-16 fighter jets and the white house strongly condemns north korea's attack. crowds at the nation's airport are growing and so is passenger anger over those too close for comfort pat downs by tsa screeners. even putting out psas. we'll show them all to you and tell you what you need to know for thanksgiving travel. investigators are trying to determine what caused a 747 cargo plane to skid off the runway at the seatac, seattle airport. snow showers in the area, as well. and it could potentially be the first piece of concrete evidence in the death of natalee holloway. the teenager disappeared on a beach in aruba more than five years ago. prosecutors plan to reveal test results on a jawbone that was found on a beach and announce whether or not it does belong to natalee holloway. breaking news for you this morning off the korean peninsula. a deadly military battle overnight between north and south korea. reportedly began with north korea's artillery strike on a south korean island. two soldiers were killed and a dozen others were wounded. the south then retaliated scrambling f-16 fighter jets. the military on high alert. the attack by the north targeted an island on the western disputed border. how is the white house reacting this morning? jill dougherty live for us in washington with more. and the white house did put out a statement early this morning about the situation. >> yeah, they did, kiran. and it was quite strong. what they're saying essentially is we condemn this, stop it -- to the north. stop this attack. and then also reminding the north that the united states and south korea have a defense pact. so if they were attacked in a very serious fashion, the u.s. would come to their defense. so it's a reminder that there are really big stakes here. you know, this is an area that it has seen a lot of encounters before. you just had back in march the north koreans -- allegedly according to the south -- torpedoing a ship. and it's along that disputed border between the two countries. also taking place, by the way, during the military exercises by the south. a lot of confrontation. not to mention, of course, the nuclear issue, as well. >> all right. jill dougherty for us this morning. thanks so much. and just into cnn right now. we're hearing there will be an announcement about the upcoming royal wedding between prince william and kate middleton. up until now we only knew it was going to be royal and upcoming. now we have details of the when and where. dan rivers standing by in london. hi, dan. >> reporter: hi there. yeah, we now know it's going to be on april 29th next year, on friday. here at westminster abbey. which has 1,000 years of links to the queen herself. it's seen many a coronation. and it's going to be a little bit bittersweet for prince william because this is also where princess diana's funeral took place in 1997. he was just 15 when he walked up the aisle of this building behind me. it's going to be a completely different occasion, of course. in april, the streets will be packed with hundreds of thousands of people, dignitaries from around the world are expected to attend. we're not sure if the u.s. president will be among those. there's talk of perhaps michelle obama coming, but we're not sure if the president himself will be here. but certainly this will be the place to be on april the 29th. >> dan, why westminster as opposed to st. paul's wheprince diana and prince charles got married? >> reporter: well, i think precisely because that's where they were married and, of course, that marriage ended in a rather bitter divorce. that was a much more lavish occasion, as well. on a much grander scale. and i think there is a feeling, officials telling us the couple william and kate are mindful of the economic situation here. they're mindful a lot of people are going through tough times. and therefore, of course, it's going to be a big occasion, but it's not going to be quite as lavish and some would say over the top as charles and di's wedding in 1981. so they've opted to go for westminster abbey, slightly more intimate. they're talking about 6,000 people possibly cramming into this place behind me. >> right, but it's a royal wedding. 6,000 is considered intimate. there were some guessing closer to july because they'd have time for a longer holiday when the royal staff is on vacation, as well. april, the weather can be tricky. >> reporter: the weather can be tricky. this is britain. and you cannot guarantee sunshine ever, let alone in april. there's a phrase here, april showers. it's always a bit dicey. but fingers are crossed. there were some rumors that they would do it as early as march, which would have been really gambling with the weather. but this was their preferred date. i think they wanted to get the wedding done quickly in the spring was their preferred date. and i think they were kind of -- there were a few other issues, for example, local elections and a referendum, i think on the 5th of may. so they have to get it out of the way in time for there to be sufficient public debates for those elections and so they settled on the 29th of april. and this announcement has to be made really before the queen left. she's going to the gulf on an official state visit tomorrow. so i think there was a feeling they wanted to get this announcement while she was still here. and there you go. there go the bells right on cue there. >> give us a taste of what we'll see. only five months to go. they better get cracking on it. dan rivers outside of westminster. thanks so much. you probably heard if you haven't experienced it firsthand, things getting tense and at times perhaps a little strange at america's airports. more and more travelers are taking exception to the enhanced security techniques and taking it out on tsa screeners. >> the union is demanding enhanced security for their own agents. they claim they need protection from the flying public. meanwhile, a "washington post" abc news poll says that nearly 2/3 of americans approve of the body scanners. it's the pat downs they have a problem with. they're in overdrive trying to convince people that these enhanced techniques are the right thing to do. >> deb feyerick joins us now. and the tsa trying to sell passengers on the new enhanced screening efforts saying it's all in the name of making sure people can travel safely. >> right. absolutely. and bottom line, it is. we have to remember 9/11, when the hijackers got on, we have to remember the underwear attack over -- the attempted attack over christmas. all of these are issues, things that security agents are talking about. the big problem, though, is that really they -- that security experts say that the united states is always preparing for the last attack. that's part of the issue, which is, you know, will these prevent whatever it is, al qaeda or others are planning for the future? the airlines always a source of interest to these terror groups. what's happening now is you've got a lot of people who are being inconvenienced. but in a way that is very private. because of all of the touching going on. people not used to that. people saying, look, i've got to get home, i've got to travel for work. why are you allowed to do this to me? there's a lawsuit right now implied basically saying these aren't effective and it's a violation of the constitution. so all of that sort of under the microscope. >> and there were some who say, look, it's not even a guarantee that the screening techniques would prevent another attack or even would prevent the latest attack of the underwear bombing. >> and the head of the tsa said, look, this is a layer approach. we have to stop at least this particular attack from happening. you get a choke hold on the united states. the underwear bomber came from outside the united states. how do you stop that? if it's not consistent all across the world, sure, you can do it in the united states. but the people most inconvenienced are the ones living here. a behavioral expert said one of the problems is right now we're at the start of the learning curve on this. we have to get used to it and get accustomed and adjusted. and once it's on this routine, these touching by the agents, maybe it'll become accepted. >> there's one group that's suing the department of homeland in a private room. and you have the option to have that pat down witnessed by a person of your choice. >> one thing that's not an option is being regarded as a suspect. and a lot of people have an issue with that. so, again, especially when you're traveling with young children and there you are and you've got to stand there quietly while you're being screened. it raises a lot of different issues. so that's something that the tsa is looking into. >> certainly raises tha loss of motions. how many air travelers will be subjected to these enhanced pat downs and scanners this week? we're speaking with charlotte bryan. a rare november tornado was caught on camera near rockford, illinois. several homes there were wrecked. the storm tipped over a school bus, six kids inside the bus went to the hospital with minor injuries. as many as seven twisters were reported in northern illinois and southern wisconsin. no reports, so far, though, of anyone seriously hurt. and in north dakota, the only way to go is slow. snow stacked up at a pace of almost an inch an hour in fargo. another storm is moving in tomorrow, that could bring 4 to 6 more inches. 11 minutes past the hour. time for a check of this morning's weather headlines. wow, so some parts of the country are really already getting it in advance of thanksgiving. and meanwhile, other parts of the country feels downright balmy. >> especially up there in the northeast. you guys had a record high temperature in the upper 60s, starting out in the lower 50s. 53 degrees in new york and d.c. but by contrast, it's 13 in minneapolis, 27 in chicago, minus 3 in billington. and seattle seeing accumulating snow. that's rare any time of year, let alone the mill ddle of november. this front to the east, that's brought the severe weather. and this blizzard developing out west. so travel delays, yeah, you bet. northeast we'll see minimal delays, but san francisco and salt lake city, i think we'll have serious problems there as this system begins to make its way to the east. this storm which brought the thunderstorms with the tornadoes across illinois and wisconsin yesterday pushing east into pennsylvania, weaker there, a little bit stronger down to the south across the tennessee valley. nashville back through memphis, these are thunderstorms that could dump heavy rain in a short amount of time. and this storm will dump heavy snow in a short amount of time, as well. we've got 12 states, guys. big states, that are under winter weather advisories of some sort. a lot of winter storm warnings and blizzard warnings up as this storm system begins to wind itself up. 30 minutes we'll talk more about tomorrow's and thursday's forecast for those traveling. okay? >> looking forward to it, rob. thanks show much. we'll see you then. changes coming to netflix. you may have gotten an e-mail from the company coming up. and also ahead, ireland's financial crisis. people venting their anger at government officials calling them traitors. rather stay home than get a pat-down or full-body scan? one airline saying you may be able to get your money back. it's 13 minutes past the hour. 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[trumpet playing "reveille" fades to silence] 16 minutes past the hour right now. and we just got the news a few moments ago. the details of the when and where of the royal wedding. set to take place at westminster abbey. the date, april 29th. thanks for being with us this morning. so i'm not going to rib you, but you did say you thought it might be july. >> yeah, i did. and also i was banking on st. pauls cathedral, as well. so pretty much a double-whammy incorrect. westminster abbey, i think is probably the better venue. it is one of the most beautiful abbeys probably in europe. i was wondering why william was so keen to go there. there is his mother and father as you know were married at st. paul's, and many people were saying maybe he felt there was something of a jings there. but that's negated by the fact he gave kate his mother's engagement ring. but it's strange -- well, it's great how many tourists have congregated immediately here at windsor castle. and i was just asking if it was possible to get tickets for the wedding. >> and what happens there in the uk between now and april the 29th? >> well, first of all, you'll have an explosion of news across all the tabloids. the world and his mother will be chasing kate and william. the buildup will be massive. i remember the first time around with charles and diana how great the coverage was then. right now, i suppose it's wrong to say we're in the honeymoon period. that will come after the wedding. but the news will all be positive. and, you know, this is the first major royal wedding in the new world, you know. the technology that we have available today. and the demand for news is is going to be so much greater. but i'm kind of hoping that the paparazzi will keep away from this one and leave it -- >> i thought you were stopping there. no, it's interesting because is five months enough time for all of the planning? not just for the couple, but for security, for all of the considerations of the logistics to take place? >> well, you can be sure. it's been what? it's been a week now since we heard the announcement of the engagement. you can be sure that buckingham palace in conjunction with scotland yard have been working around the clock to make sure everything is ready for today's announcement and, of course, for the wedding in five month's time. the date, you have to remember because william is heir to the thrown of england, the royal protocol dictates that every major head of state has to be invited. so there would have been discussions with other countries, certainly there would have been talk with washington about what dates everybody's free. you don't sort of stick a wedding in the post with an rsvp. >> it'll be interesting to see who in addition to the heads of state gets that royal invite. there's only room for what? 6,000 people at westminster. it'll be a tight guest list. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, guys. >> interesting also that the royal family is going to be paying for the wedding. there's been talk about if the taxpayers should be on the hook for the lavish wedding. >> somebody's got to pay for it, i guess. just a few hour's time, prosecutors in aruba plan to reveal test results on a jawbone that was found earlier this month on the beach at the island. it could confirm the death of natalee holloway who disappeared in aruba more than five years ago. what do we know at this point? any idea when we're expected to hear the results of these dna tests? >> reporter: morning, john. looks like it's going to be this afternoon. the information's going to come out in two ways. one, it will be released electronically through an e-mail. and then also it's going to be delivered by the spoken word. just a few minutes ago, i had an interesting conversation with the solicitor general. he's the man who is going to deliver the information from his office down here. this is the same office behind us here where the prosecutor's office is located. and we saw the prosecutor going in to work today. but in conversation with the solicitor general, what was interesting was that he said, look, he doesn't even know what the results are yet. that would imply that information has not been transmitted from the hague, which is where the jawbone was sent on november 12th. it was sent out for scientific discovery over there at the hague. what you expect to hear back are two things. one, will they confirm, in fact, it's human. and two, is there anything either dental records or dna that will connect it through natalee holloway? because if there was a connection, that would be huge, it would be the first real major break in this case in some 5 1/2 years. but as we say, we're waiting for that information to come out. but the solicitor general. he says he doesn't know it yet, it would imply this is very much from a top-down level security to make sure there are no news leads. that they hang on to the information and transmit it later today and he will come out and deliver it to us and we will be right here. >> are there any theorys, martin, of how that jawbone got on to the beach. it's not likely it washed up. could it potentially have been carried and dropped by a bird? >> reporter: right. well, there are a couple of theorys on this one. you might remember there was hurricane tomas, which down here when it passed by was not a hurricane, but it was still a very powerful storm. and those storms are relatively rare this far south in the caribbean. so there was speculation that that somehow churned up the waters, there was a lot of beach erosion, that could've had an impact of transporting the bone from where it was to where it was discovered on the beach. there really is no clear explanation. and all of this could be just speculation until we get a definitive answer. and quite frankly, there has been so much of that. so many false leads and false hopes for the holloway family. they are trying to be guarded on this particular subject. beth holloway says she doesn't believe there's any significant information to come. however, dave holloway, the father of natalee, says he is optimistic. i guess we all wait for the word that comes from the office behind us. >> see you this afternoon. martin savidge. thanks so much. in the meantime, oprah's final things give away. we knew it was going to be huge. the paramedics on standby. wait until you see the reaction of the audience when they found out everything they were getting. 22 minutes past the hour. 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>> what happened? >> yeah. >> you were hurt in a football game. >> what? >> yeah. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: that was 2002. >> i don't remember the season, i don't remember the football season. >> reporter: this is max today. he's 26. living in a home for brain-injured adults. he still has no memory of the hit that changed his life. in fact, these days, he has problems remembering period. >> once in a while i get upset about if i can't remember the stuff i want to remember. i wish it never happened. >> i'll tell you. it's amazing, he has no memory of that particular game, no memory of the entire football season. it's pretty remarkable. now, his parents were instrumental in getting what was known as max's law passed in oregon. this requires coaches have training and being able to recognize symptoms of concussion. also, that players stay off the field for at least a day if they have any symptoms whatsoever and that only after a medical professional has cleared them. that's the law in oregon now. but again, as i think we've talked about before, in many states, there's not a real consistency, at least at the youth level with regard to when keep players off the field. >> so if we're talking, sanjay, about when to keep a player off the field, what are the symptoms a player has a concussion and should be taken out of the game? >> for one thing to keep in mind, there's no specific blood test or scan for this, so you really do rely on a clinical diagnosis. some of the symptoms, for example, and again some of these exams are conducted at the sidelines. headaches, for example, pressure in the head. sometimes people will describe nausea or vomiting clearly. balance, dizziness, also confusion, attention, and memory problems. and again, these are things that can be tested right at the sideline. there's also a lot of things about concussions we don't know, as well. for example, subconcussive hits. can they accumulate over time? and also, is there a genetic predisposition? because of this unknown science, the -- the approach seems to be a more conservative one keeping players off the field longer making sure you get those sideline exams right away. >> all right, sanjay gupta for us this morning, thanks so much. >> and tomorrow, dr. gupta talks to fred mcneil, a man who considered suicide after his playing days were over because of the brain injuries he suffered. that's tomorrow on "american morning." we need to make a clarification. the story we told you about delta airlines and potential refunds if you don't want to go through the enhanced security proceedings. they will on a limited basis consider refunding non-refundable the tickets. but other airlines aren't considering doing the same thing. american airlines says a nonrefundable ticket is just that. non-refundable. so if you don't want to go through the procedures, contact them, and if you've got a good enough story, maybe they'll give you your money back. a lot of anger at u.s. airports, but how many air travelers will be subjected to those enhanced pat downs and body scanners? 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it makes you feel almost terrified to fly. well, we're separating fact from fiction with the tsa reality check. a former tsa and faa security official now a consultant joins us from washington this morning. charlotte, good to have you with us. >> good morning, kiran. >> if you opened up a paper, hear the news, i'd be scared to go to the airport this morning. how likely is it you're going to be subjected to the enhanced pat-down? >> i'm told it's less than 3% of the traveling public will be subjected to it. there are about 385 advanced imaging technology machines out there at about 85 airports. that's such a small number. however, at the airports where they are deployed, they will be used as the primary screening technology. so passengers will be directed towards those machines. once those lanes get busy and backed up, then they will begin using the walk-through metal detectors. but it isn't very likely that you will be subjected to the ait technology. >> so that's interesting. you say that if they do get backed up at this airports where they do have the machines, they may then turn to the enhanced pat downs. but how much longer does it take to go through the standamachine the standard metal detector? >> i'm not sure. however, if there is an alarm, the passenger is asked if they would like to try to clear it, empty something out of their pockets and then they'll go through again. but it isn't that long. >> so, you know, what has some people angry and as you know the aclu filing a lawsuit saying this is basically unfair search and seizure. they also question whether or not it's actually effective. because as you said, there are only 400 of these machines, do we -- and, you know, the tsa is saying those machines are necessary and vital for keeping us safe. for all of the other security lines, the 200 other airports that don't have these machines, are they then less safe? >> no. as you've heard before, tsa has many levels and layers of security. there's always -- they're always able to introduce some random security measures. they don't want the traveling public to know everything that's going on. you can understand why we want to keep the terrorists guessing what's going on. the walk-through metal detectors are very comprehensive. and they can also once a passenger exits a regular walk through metal detector, they can then be subjected to a pat down, as well. so the randomness element, i think is a key part of the security measures. >> i got you. is the goal eventually to, though, replace all standard metal detectors with these machines, the x-ray machines? >> yes, it is. >> how would that then change life for the flying public? >> well, as we -- as been discussed, a passenger can always opt out and have -- and be subjected to the enhanced pat-down. and i think there's continuous investment in technology and there will be improvements. i've seen some other machines that don't quite -- that aren't quite as revealing. and there aren't some of the privacy issues that there are today. but i think in another year or so, we're going to see some enhancements in this technology. and we may not have the situation that we have with all of the concern here in the u.s. >> i'm interested to get your take about the issue about whether or not it would stop the underwear bomber. i talked to john pistole yesterday to be clear on whether or not these enhanced pat-downs would've indeed caught the underwear bomb that abdulmutallab had. is this purely by touch? and are you 100% confident that you would catch something like that? >> i believe it would have caught last year's underwear bomber. what i'm concerned about is people putting things inside in cavities and things like that. that to me continues to be a vulnerability. i know there's work ongoing in those areas. but i believe last year had we had these out there -- and in fact, you and i talked after this occurred about the need for these whole body imaging systems. and it would have identified something in his crotch that would've had to have been resolved. >> well, charlotte bryan, we appreciate it. >> thanks, kiran. still to come this morning, put the rumors to rest. we now have a royal wedding date. live in london at the top of the hour with new details about the prince's big day. and rob marciano with this morning's travel forecast right after the break. stay with us. it's 47 minutes after the hour. a and walmart are teaming up to bring you a low-price medicare prescription drug plan called the humana walmart-. it's a new plan that covers both brand ans and has the lowest-pricednatioy of only $14.80 per month and in-store copays as . when you could save over, you can focus on the things . ♪ go to walmart.com for details. my professor at berkeley asked me if i wanted to change the world. i said "sure." 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>> reporter: right. well it is taking place in the beautiful gothic building behind me, westminster abbey. this is basically the royal church opposite big ben on the banks of the river thames and a long history, about a thousand years of royal connections here. the wedding on the 29th of april, friday. the national holiday. the couple described as being over the moon and on cloud nine. so now we are going to have a few months of sort of build-up as we begin to find out which international royal, you know, dignitaries and other royals coming and a massive global event. this building normally has room for about 2,000 people in a normal congregation but we understand they could cram as many as 6,000 people inside. and then all of these streets throughout this part of central london will probably be closed off and lined with literally hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of well wishers as they wait to see the second in line to the throne finally getting married. >> dan, it is interesting. there's talk about whether or not they had to scale back what would be a huge royal celebration because of the tough economic times. we heard word the royal family will be paying for the wedding. has there been any reaction to all of that? >> that's right. we're told that the royal household and the middleton family, kate's family, will be paying. clearly, the royal household will be paying the lion's share of that. they're saying that in line with charles and di's wedding in 1981 and indeed the queen's wedding back in 1947. so they're saying it's a precedent set by the queen and in line with that. of course, the royal household is paid for by the civil list which comes to general taxation and i suppose there's an argument to say that at the end of the day this is partly funded by the public purse but the government will pick up the tab for the security and transport arrangements, and this is going to be slightly less lavish than charles and di's wedding in 1981 which was at the other end of the city and much bigger venue and much more lavish ceremony than this. we're told kate and william mindful of the economic situation and the wedding will reflect that. this building we've been told is picked because of the royal connections. also, because it's slightly more intimate than st. paul's. >> all right. dan rivers for us this morning, thanks. some reaction we are going to check in now with author and royal historian hugo vick cers this morning for us. >> thank you. >> april 29, 2011, at westminster abbey. what do you think? >> well, i think it is perfect. as dan was saying, it is the royal family's london church and, of course, the fun which you are of princess of wales there, the wedding of the queen and other members of the royal family and as for the date, well, april can be a very nice time in london. if it's much later, it would have been a very long engagement and all the for the good. >> known since 1066 as the coronation cathedral. >> he will be crowned there. most kings since william the conqueror vbl. the queen was crowned there. all being well, they will have been married there 63 1/2 years before. that's a wonderful testimony. >> the guest list. they say you can fit 6,000 in the church. i'm sure there's, you know, exponentially more people who would love to attend. how do they whittle this down? >> there's a lot of headaches in the lord chamberlain's office because there's people that want and have to be present and, of course, being as he is an heir to the throne, there will be a number of guests that must be there. there will be a lot of foreign royal houses, perhaps even as we said the other day perhaps mrs. obama might be invited but it should be a very exciting occasion and of course a very personal commitment between the young couple. i think that is something that's stressed this time that it's not only a nation aal celebration b two people because they want to be married to each other. which is great. >> it is different than many royal stories of the past. only five months now until the wedding. obviously, plans will be put forward a pace. what happens there in the uk in the next five months? >> well, there will be a lot of things going on behind the scenes and, of course, one of the things that happens in the lord chamberlain's office is people ring up and say i'm a friend and hope for an invitation and they say why didn't you get in touch with the happy couple itself and see how you stand? lots of people want invitations. >> that is true, right? e-mail kate if you want to go. >> exactly. >> anything else that stands out to you about all of this, the date, the -- just how much planning needs to go into it? and also, the security aspect. >> well, the security aspect for any event these days whether it's london or new york or wherever is, of course, huge. i hope there will be a carriage procession for a good look at the bride and groom which is what we want. the occasions are television occasions now and seen by people all over the world which is fantastic. and of course, behind the scenes meticulous planning and that's what we do extremely well in this country and why people will be put through the paces. to make sure that it goes splendidly on the actual day. >> you have had a lot of practice. no question about that. hugo vickers, author and historian, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. also this morning, we are following developments in the korean peninsula. the united states denouncing north korea's artillery strike on a south korean island that killed two soldiers and injured more than a dozen others. >> not the first time the yeonpyeong island has been the focus of hostility. jill dougherty is following this. >> reporter: this is very serious. in fact, if you look at events taken place in the area, no question. this is the worse so far. using artillery to fire. this is not sporadic firing. that is artillery barrage. people killed, people injured. the united states, the white house issued a statement, and strongly condemning, of course, attack and telling north korea to in essence stop, stop right now. and reminding them that the united states and south korea have a defense pact and each for the other. the united states is vowing to defend south korea should it be necessary. so there's a balance here. i think you would have to say there's a tenuous balance of a strong mess nlg, you have seen that from the white house. you are certainly seeing it from the south koreans but at the same time not overplaying it and trying to pull it back and trying to tamp down any type of possibility that this might escalate. it's a tense time. overall with the nuclear program, the secession for kim jong-il's son to take his place so a lot of balls in the air and a very unstable time. >> jill, this is the third time since 1999 that the island has been a point of conflict. we know that the united states is saying about it. what about the rest of the international reaction? what are country tries like china and russia saying? >> reporter: cli thhina is the friends of north korea right now. they supply food and practically anything they get right now most of it comes from china. so they have been very careful. they are very worried about instability in north korea. the russians who are part of the six-party talks also have spoken out, carefully. and their message is don't let this get out of control. >> jill dougherty in washington this morning, thanks. it is getting tense and bizarre these days at america's airlines. more and more travelers taking exception to the security techniques and taking it out on the screeners. the union that represents the screeners demanding enhanced security for their own members claiming they need protection from the flying public. meanwhile, a "the washington post" poll says nearly two thirds of americans approve of airport scanners. it's the enhanced pat down that is are a problem. half of us feel they just go too far. well, just in time for one of the busiest travel holidays of the year, you have snow stacking up at almost a pace of an inch an hour in fargo. another storm is moving in tomorrow. that's the last thing anyone flying in or out of there needs to hear. could bring four to six more inches. >> let's get a check of the morning weather headlines. rob? folks trying to get there to here might be kursing it. >> a hard time getting the hill to enjoy that snow. i tell you this. once the holiday gets here, thursday, friday to saturday, and all this moves off to the east, it's going to be just absolutely primo stuff on the mountain that's for sure. let's get through this. in between, we have the record high and the record cold. we have turbulent video. look at this video. several tornadoes touching down in illinois and wisconsin. this one caught on tape. caledonia, did damage there. there was a school bus overturned because of this storm. three kids injured and all of the injuries were minor thank goodness. this could have been a lot worse, that's for sure. gives you an idea of how beefed up this atmosphere is with all the heat out east and the cold out west. in between, we have a couple of storms. here's one front pushing off to the east. pennsylvania, pittsburgh, the appalachi appalachians. light to moderate rainfall. heavier across tennessee and kentucky. back through parts of the south. nashville heading east towards knoxville and huntsville. they're not severe but bringing strong winds and heavy, heavy rain. speaking of heavy precip. winter storm watches, warnings, a blizzard warning for almost all of utah, idaho. probably see a couple of feet of snow on top of the several feet that they have seen over the past couple of weeks and that snow will be blowing sideways. 46, denver. 26 degrees in seattle. they saw record snow. snow any time of the year in seattle is a big deal. let alone the middle of november. 82 degrees in dallas. 63 degrees out in -- up there in new york city. give you a little peek of what we think will happen tomorrow as the storm ejects from the rockies. the plains, a similar track to the past storm. most of the winter precip across the upper midwest and great lakes and probably doesn't chicago. minneapolis and much of minnesota will get another round of ice and snow. but most of the big cities from chicago to new york with the system on the warm side of it. i suppose if there's a sliver of good news, john and kiran, it is that. back to you. >> that's a sliver. you are reaching there, rob. >> that's what we do. we try. >> thanks. new this morning, hope is fading for 29 new zealand coal miners who have been trapped underground since friday. there's been no communication with the miners since last week's explosion. also, a volatile mix of gases made it too risky for anyone to attempt a rescue in the mine. just a few hour's time, prosecutors in aruba will reveal the results of tests of a jawbone found earlier this month. it could be, we repeat could be the first concrete piece of evidence in the death of natalee holloway. she disappeared in aruba more than five years ago. >> it's small comfort but a washington, d.c. jury has returned a guilty verdict in the death of chandra levy. a man was convicted of murdering her in 2001. he faces life in prison at his sentencing in february. irish protesters voicing anger over the government's decision to ask the international community for a financial bailout. they stormed the prime minister's offices in dublin yesterday. they claim they were deceived by prime minister cowen that insisted that ireland could weather the financial storm independently. a bladder cancer survivor driven to tears by screeners. thomas sawyer got an apology. does fee hell comfortable? 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>> yes, he did call me yesterday. he was very gracious. he started by apologizing. we shared a little humor with each other. i said you're not too busy today. he said a couple meetings here and there. i said, i have a couple phone calls, too. we laughed. he went on to apologize to me on behalf of the tsa and then he had some -- some things to say. i had to do a little correcting. he had a part of the story mixed up which a lot of people do right now. >> sure. >> and we did that and then he asked me what i thought -- because i kept talking about training. what i thought. i talked to him that i don't believe that they've been trained as well as -- to handle a medical condition as what -- various medical conditions is what many of the tsa postings have been saying. and he said he had -- was going to be talking at 3:00 yesterday afternoon to his supervisors and the whole thing would be discussed an engoing to be a larger meeting. i offered to actually attend that meeting. i would demonstrate and talk with them about the world of your ostomies, insulin pumps and et cetera and help educate the agents he said i might take you up on that. it was a congealian conversation. >> you told us yesterday, thomas, you think the enhanced pat downs should be stopped until the tsa screeners receive more enhanced training. are you still thinking that? >> the enhanced pat downs? >> yes. >> you know, it's a real double-edged sword. i've tried to make it clear, i'm a good american. i understand that we are in trying times right now and whether or not the pat downs should be stopped, i don't know. the way they're being done right now i think really have to be looked at to back off for a while. until they're positive sure that all of the screeners have been trained for medical appliances. >> so after that telephone call that you had yesterday with tsa administrator pistole would you be more comfortable now going through an enhanced pat down? >> no. not right now. it's too close. at least, though, right now after being able to reflect, i know that i would be able to say, no, you are going to listen to my medical condition before you pat me down but i'm not planning on flying soon. >> all right. well, if you do, hopefully your message gets through. thank you again for being on with us this morning and wish you the best of luck and great to see the tsa take you up on your offer to talk about the particular conditions. i think it would be a good idea. >> thank you, john. i really appreciate cnn for covering this. >> good to talk to you this morning. have a great thanksgiving. >> all right. well, hopefully, you know, because of what he went through other people won't have to experience the same thing. >> let's hope. but you know, there's people to get the word out to. >> absolutely. well, netflix is offering something that's different that they haven't offered before. this is the first time that the company says you can have an online only subscription plan and not get any movies. you would just pay $7.99 a month for unlimited access to streaming content but for the movies, prices are going up. we'll explain coming up. also two men in arkansas put all the other early birds to shame. they're already camping out to be the first ones in line at best buy for the black friday crowds. they've been there since sunday seeking bargains on a laptop and flat-screen tv. a thanksgiving tradition they say. oprah did it again, showering her audience with gifts. people went nuts. we'll show you the big surprise just ahead. tigers are on the verge of extinction. there are two times as many tigers in captivity than there are in the wild. now, an expert about the global effort to save the tiger. >> ( creature inhaling ) >> ( branches breaking ) >> ( creature growling ) >> ( horse hoofs beating ) >> ( horse nickering ) >> ( train whistle blowing ) >> ( engine revving ) >> man: experience the power of progress. take advantage of exceptional new and certified pre-owned values during the season of audi event. morning talker time. welcome back. we knew it was going to be big, of course. oprah's big -- >> huge. >> big studio audience giveaway when she has the favorite things episode. she didn't disappoint this time. she gave the entire studio audience in part two of the final favorite things a car. >> they said, we cannot give you this beetle. but how about if we give each person in your audience the brand-new totally redesigned 2012 volkswagen beetle? >> so you asked earlier, how many people? >> how many beetles? >> 276 or 278 people in the audience. it was a special hand-picked audience. they were heroes who spent a lot of time doing good throughout the year. and oprah wanted to repay them so con garage lapgss. he's thrilled. >> you would think with the reaction the real beatles showed up, 1964, opposed to the car. bristol palin could win "dancing with the stars" last night. here's the thing with bis toll. even if she comes up short with the judges, the fans kept her on the show and up against jennifer grey and kyle massey. in a city south of boston where the red sox are a source of pride and as rob marciano told us where rocky marciano hails from, brockton, massachusetts, they broke the record for santa hats worn at the same time. this year, 872 santa hats. it's a record. >> a lot of hats in one place at one time. well, the hit that changed his life forever. a high school basketball player years after a game that he can't even remember. our dr. sanjay gupta, his story and a warning for coaches and parents just ahead. you will want to see this. to sweet talk your taste buds it's for my heart health. so i can't have any? 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>> what happened? >> yeah. >> you were hurt in a football game. >> what? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> oh my god! >> reporter: that was 2002. >> i don't remember the season. i don't remember the football season. >> reporter: this is max today. he's 26. living in a home for brain injured adults. he still has no memory of the hit that changed his life. in fact, these days, he has problems remembering. period. >> once in a while i get upset about if i can't remember the stuff i want to remember. i wish it never happened. >> it is amazing. incidentally, his parents instrumental of a law passed in oregon that required coaches to have more knowledge about concussions, if players have symptoms to keep them off the field for at least a day and they have to be cleared by a medical professional, law's called max's law, in oregon. but around the country, you know, it is inconsistent in exactly how concussions are approached and treated at the youth level. >> sanjay, in this particular case, how could this have been prevented? what should the coaches have been looking for when it came to max? >> there's no question that when we talk about second impact syndrome, the whole point is that one concussion is bad. but at the time before the brain has healed, the person is set up for a second concussion. that second concussion can be exponentially worse. there's no blood test or a scan as you know but there's clinical signs to look for. they do the sideline exams looking for headaches, for example. some sort of pressure in the head that people are complaining of. nausea, vomiting, light sensitivity, confusion, attention or memory problems. these things, again, they may sound vague but if someone has the symptoms, immediately after a blow to the head or something where they seem -- they feel not quite right, they should not play. they should not play until there's evidence that their brain has healed and that's usually done by a medical professional. >> sanjay gupta for us this morning. such a sad story for max. >> thanks, doc. tomorrow sanjay talked to fred mcneil, a man that lashed out at his own family and considered suicide after the playing days were over. why? because of brain injuries he suffered yirk coming up, tigers living in the wild threatened with extinction. they could be gone in 12 years according to experts. we'll talk about the tiger summit set to take place to try to save them. join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance, and no cost replacement of wear and tear items. visit your jaguar dealer during the platinum celebration for a $599 lease offer on the 2011 xf. 40 minutes past the hour right now. 2010 is the year of the tiger on the chinese calendar but by the time the next one rolls around in 2022, tigers in the wild could be extinct. it is hard to believe. experts say that right now just 3,200 tigers remain in the wild. that's down from about 100,000 a century ago. a global effort is under way to try to save them. they actually kicked off a tiger summit in russia. joining us now from washington is the director of the species conservation program for the world wildlife federation. thank you for joining us. >> good morning. good to be here. >> that number is astounding. 3,200 tigers left in the wild it is estimated. what is happening? >> tigers really crashed in the last century, and it's due to heavy poaching pressure for their parts and to a massive decline in habitat. tigers today throughout asia live in about only 7% of the historic range so there's urgent action needed to stop this really fast decline in the wild and that's why we have gone through a yearlong process to get governments together and culminates today in the tiger sup mit hosted in russia. >> right. one of the things that you mention is loss of habitat. that is the huge problem, and seems one more challenging than the poaching issue. what do you do about the loss of habitat? >> a lot of habitat con vefrgs today is driven by expanding of agriculture and products we use in the every day life in the u.s. in fact, most of the consumption that we are having such as paper products, cosmetics converts vital tiger habitat on islands such as sumatra and feeds our demand and that's why we're losing habitat at such a fast rate. >> is there anything that can be done about that? >> yes. we're engaging a lot of the companies and consumers in the u.s. to really look at sustainability measures of how can we produce the products in a sustainable way. we have been working with companies on sustainability certification such as the forest stewardship process and you can buy them in the store and they're sustainably sourced. >> they're so beautiful and magnificent but the parts are highly prized especially in some aspects of chinese medicine. i think this week alone a poacher was caught with a dead tiger and arrested but how do you stop the poaching when you can get as much as $50,000 for more for one tiger? >> yeah. we have been engaging with, you know, traditional medicine practitioners and they have come out strongly against using illegal tiger products in their products. and we're working with local communities who sometimes have to make a living by poaching tigers to find alternatives. how can they live in harmony with these animals and actually maybe even make money by having live tigers in the back yards through tourism or other ways than killing tigers for a living? >> right. it's interesting. leonardody cap owe is attending the summit and donated money. there you see a picture putting in an infrared camera to track tigers to find out more about which tigers are still living and where. he's calling on apple's steve jobs to be involved, as well, because millions more is needed in terms of money to make a dent in this. how significant is the involvement of him and other big and deep-pocketed donors? >> this is exactly the kind of attention that we need at the plight of tigers. they need every help they can get from actors and we are very excited he is a spokesperson for this issue because he can touch millions of people that we as conservationists have a harder time reaching but same with, you know, people like vladimir putin today that speaks at the highest level of government to say we have to reverse this trend, otherwise we'll lose tigers forever. they inspire millions of people, i myself, you know, was a kid watching tiger documentaries saying i have to become a conservationist myself. if we cannot save tigers, there's really no hope for them or for us to have a natural world and why we need people like leonardo to help us and if you want to learn more, go to save tigers now.org and learn how to get involved and with your connections through business such as, you know, a lot of u.s. companies are key in helping us source products sustain sustainably. >> right. we linked your information up with our website, as well. hopefully people will find out more about it. thanks so much for joining us this morning. >> thanks a lot. coming up now on 46 minutes after the hour. got storms in the ohio valley, blizzard warnings in the west. walking out the door to the airport to get to a business meeting or get home to grandma's house, we have your travel forecast right after the break with rob. until one of the guys brought in some fresh bread that he'd made from our pale ale. and from that first bite, i knew my business would never be the same. 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>> very important rules but pat downs seem to be getting more attention than pilot fatigue but, john, the faa is concerned about making sure that pilots stay awake with new proposals to give pilots more rest time and seems to be a no-brainer but management can't agree on the rules. indeed, lives are at stake here. so we saw at a flight simulator, it's very easy for pilots to get tired. >> when you're at cruising altitude, you're cruising just for hours -- >> yes. >> reporter: it is easy to get fatigued. >> very easy. fatigued, bored, distracted. all of those things. >> fatigue is a dangerous thing. it's caused many accidents. and deaths. >> reporter: 13 people died six years ago from this crash in missouri. the national transportation safety board blamed pilot fatigue. and the investigation of the 2009 crash near buffalo, new york, that killed 50 people revealed the pilots were not well rested. the same rules governed pilot rest and duty hours for 25 years. even though a growing number of accidents have been tied to fatigue and the science in this area has been improving. so what's taking so long to get better rules in place? industry players can't seem to agree. the faa is proposing pilots permitted to work no more than 13 hours a day and be given more down time, at least nine hours prior to a flight assignment, a inl crease of one hour from the current rule. not enough say pilots. >> every human has a physiological need for sleep and scientists tell us that we need about ten hours in a hotel room to be able to get eight hours of sleep. >> reporter: but the fiercest opposition from airlines that want flexibility in scheduling employees. their trade group the air transport association calls the proposal operationally onerous. >> it seems to me like passengers are much more safe with pilots who are well rested. >> reporter: that says the ntsb is reason enough to get new rules in place as quickly as possible. >> i think everybody who flies should be outraged that there are known changes that would help to ben felt safety in this area and absolutely everybody should be pushing to see the changes happen now. >> changes are coming. even with the complaints, the faa is pushing forward. congressmandated that the faa must put a new rule in place by august 1st of next year. we will see this happen. >> allen, thanks so much. want to take you back to the new pictures we are getting in out of illinois, call doe that, illinois. this is where they believe a tornado touched down and now the first aerial views of the damage. you can see the homes knocked off of the foundations, downed trees. we saw silo just smashed and there as you always see with tornadic activity, right next to destroyed and flattened structure are many still standing. >> they'll take one structure and leave the others ones intact. pictures from wgn. there's a building that has been totally flattened. looks like a farmhouse or some sort of building as they're going through there potentially looking to see if anybody was trapped inside at the time. real wild weather that moved through there yesterday. all of it heading east. it is in the ohio valley. bringing with it thunderstorms and high winds. nothing, thankfully, as strong as that which came through the northern part of the illinois northern part of the illinois yesterday. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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