an alternative to him knowing the victims or as a way for him to go after one or if not all of the victims who he -- who he might have known. that is the big question right now. we all want to answer that question because we try to give meaning to these horrors and meaning for the family members. i mean, that's -- you know, they want meaning for it and to believe he just planned this out and showed up or was stalking some house for a random reason and kills these young adults is all horrific but just makes it so evil as well. >> absolutely. it's so chilling we want to know what caused it. all right. andy, john, juliette, thank you very much for your expertise tonight. >> thank you. now to this, after waiting for years, trump's tax returns are finally public. we'll tell you what is in them, next. -no... arthritis. here. aspercreme arthritis. fufull prescription-strength? reduces inflammation?