Called for reconciliation. Obama i am here to insist that we are not as divided as we think because i know america. I know how far we have come against impossible odds. And regressing on of the image of god we see in one another and recognize we are brothers and sisters shake sharing the same moment on earth. What about this event today struck you most . That havere two guys done this before and i thought they were both justice ordinary. There are so many constituencies and negativity and conflict within the country, and i thought they did a beautiful job. They are so good at it. They had been through this crucible of four. Being optimistic at this time. A lot of people wondering what the optimism comes from. I agree with that of course. Anyway it was good to see george w. Bush. He has done so little of this kind of thing since he has been out of the white house. President obama, it is a horrible true line to his presidency. The shootings, the mass shootings, individual shootings, he has had to console an awful lot of parents. As grim as it is, he has gotten very good at it and his ability to call on scripture and speak the language of spirituality, very powerful and very powerful lesson number when he did it. One of the things resulted that is a remarkable thing, almost every sentence they said, you would say, of course that is true, and it has power is a book the narrative. All races, religions, parties of their. I am not sure the whole nation and attention, but my instinct is that dallas is going to have a lot of good feeling today and try to fight back from the horrible week they have had. This to president it is no diss to president bush. Place asfrom a unique the first africanamerican president. In some ways, the speech recalled to me the speech he had on race. He did it in such a powerful way. To the white constituencies and the black constituencies for both sides to sympathize with the other. He gets criticism from the right brutality, on police and criticism from the left on focusing on the white Police Officers. The way he spoke to both constituencies today and a way that was real, embracing, and in a measured way of lifting was about perfect. Twitteri followed on and saw a lot of conservatives praising the president. I thought this is great. It is great to see that. Criticsple are regular of the president. Later they were nitpicking on things. I thought today was a day to set that aside. In more than usual it happened today, this ebook president s of their to see both president s up there. Still ahead, everything you need to know about republican Vice President ial candidate. The key the republican states that has reached critical mass. All signs point to indiana governor mike and says donald , where choice unveiled trump is excited to announce his decision. There are a lot of news outlets suggesting pence is the choice for trump. Some are saying it is all but certain that he is who trump will choose. Reporter, aana respected veteran journalist, tweeted, confirmed mike pence departed the airport headed to new jersey. Video is going to be on the air at this hour. Lets assume that trump picks the Hoosier State governor. Is he a good case is he a good choice . He is a safe choice. He will not do any harm, which is really important. A Newt Gingrich or a Chris Christie would have been a more exciting anymore is close of choice, but they mike pence is steady, reliable, he will not embarrass the candidate. It held little bit with the social right who is suspicious of trump. I think it helps us from the big donors. The thing that is a risk about mike pence, when he was in the national spotlight, he choked. He is better than that. He is very steady politically, but the good thing about pence is that if trump is going to win this race, he will make the story Hillary Clinton. If he had chosen Newt Gingrich or Chris Christie, it would not have been about Hillary Clinton. I think pencil be prepared and will be good tomorrow. He will be good at the convention. He will be good in his interviews. Think that is primarily why he was picked but to put the focus on clinton which is what trump wants. Can you imagine Newt Gingrich or Chris Christie making the case against Hillary Clinton on ethics . It wouldve been laughable and counterproductive. President s, do they carry this or that . Lbj toe to go back to find one that really made a big difference. The other thing i think about pence he is a steady influence and a policy guy an opposite and trump. That will reassure people. I have been asking for weeks, will trump took someone that people will say that person is qualified to be president . Absolutely. I think he clears that bar just as dick cheney did in joe biden did. Vote he hasions on taken. He voted against the Prescription Drug bill. He voted against the bailout of the financial industry. He got some kind of antigovernment vote that will fit in nicely with the trump coalition. He will have to adjust his protrade the you. Heavyweight s chenier biden. Ey or biden. A formerence is congressman and a radio host, social conservative. How the Opposition Research team , they are geared up and have been preparing and had mike pence in their sites. Where will they go after him . From the hillary campaign, it said, he will be in real trouble because he joined donald trump. It told me that they had a huge let me a huge litany. Be social conservative views and he will be depicted as antigay. He got in great trouble with that socalled religious liberty issue out there. Sometimes he has not been the best politician. He ran against john boehner and got clobbered. I agree. They will say he is too conservative on social issues and will look to highlight areas they disagree. They wont do trade very hard. The thing that i think he is normal on is his position on indiana. As population has gone down. He is in danger of losing his seat to a democrat and republican state. I think that points to the fact that he is not governed anywhere that has increased its popularity. For thext week, except debate, there will not be a lot of discussion on mike pence. Is anaw joe donnelly who able allocation. He said, i really think democrats are going to win the governors race in indiana. The thing about mike pence is that even though he has hardline position, a lot of democrats like him. He has Good Relationships. He has a pretty Good Relationship with democrats. You are going to have a hard time having democrats going out and trashing him. Recognize that people will rally around him. This would not be a guy who will be attacked and not have defenders. Even if democrats come after him, he will not be a dan quayle, a deer in headlights. Likely, if it more he chooses a safe versus safe. The two other finalists a donald trump was considering and believe what been eliminated or Chris Christie and Newt Gingrich. Chris christie sat down with Nicole Wallace for discussion. Gingrich was on live with his q a. Choiceought he had a between two pirates on the ticket. Some of your supporters feel like it is owed to you that no one has taken more lumps for backing him when they did then you. Do you feel that way . No. No one is owed the vice presidency of the united states. The guy who is picked chooses who will do it. I dont view it that way. Thenu do view it that way you dont have your eye on the ball. Win the race first and be the person who can help the president be the best president he can be. Al, we both know that christie and gingrich have lots of baggage. Why do you think trump went that way . Guess ise point, my that he was inclined to go for one of those because they are great attack dogs. He saw the real downside in that. Newt gingrich, i am glad he confessed he was not normal. I first had lunch with Newt Gingrich july of 1974 when he told me the party had to get away from ronald reagan. And christie, we will talk later about this plea today, but pretty gate has not gone away but bridge gate has not gone away. He was getting advice from some people who were a vrable. The main advice was that they were to volatile in terms of their background. Like i said before, youre not going to put Newt Gingrich or Chris Christie on the National Stage for several months and not have days where they create a story. Is not in a way that advantageous to trump. Picking them was too big of a risk. While mike pence help trump elected . Probably not. But neither would christie or gingrich. Imagine Chris Christie going after hillary comes in on ethics . Wait a second. Imagine Newt Gingrich tried to attack her on the personal behavior of her husband . Coming up, we got more questions about trumps he made. We will talk to his running mate who knows. Dayt has been an eventful for the republicans and the parties. There was a rules Committee Meeting in cleveland and everyone is talking about Donald Trumps decision. Joining us now to talk about both is Killian Conway joining us from new york kelly ann conway. Reporter by the name of jonathan tol is authoring the vp slot mike pence . I cannot confirm that. If you want to know you have to show up at the hilton are put on a tv 11 00 a. M. Tomorrow. You are familiar with people on Donald Trumps shortlist. Give us a case for mike pence. . What is even to the ticket . He show the other night that one can attack the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, challenge her fitness to be president , but to do it surgically methodically and yet passionately. Can take ae pence comment by Hillary Clinton that she made west virginia, promising to put the coal industry out of business and travel that, westward through pennsylvania, ohio, indiana, illinois, michigan and iowa. She can make them competitive. He has got a 2 00 a. M. Dollar surplus he is that a 2 billion surplus. A lot of infrastructure development. Very welly is going in indiana and has created manufacturing jobs, which is something that donald trump says he wants to do. Checks washington box and spent 12 years in congress. 10 of those were on the Foreign Affairs committee. The last term in congress before he went to run for governor, mike pence was a Communications Person in leadership of the Republican Party. He was on tv ubiquitously. I am a conservative, but not in a bad mood about it. Use a morereally positive, uplifting, inspiring spokesperson. Talk about mike pences personality, which is underrated in terms of his sense of humor and how outgoing he is. I think a lot of people only view him casually the National Prism look at ms kind of a stiff. And had aery funny radio show for many years in indiana and referred to himself as Rush Limbaugh because he is more measured. Those of us on the east coast cannot always relate to someone who is reflective and not reactive. Who thinks about it. Recently, mike pence made a couple of comments about the state of the race. It seemed much more measured and unique in the content then maybe what i think gardenvariety commentators were saying. Help onke pence will the policy part. Donald trump moving into areas of policies. To reform thelan Veterans Administration this past monday in Virginia Beach is vary very specific and concrete. He is also well respected. I want to point out two quick things one is people missed were jeff was very glowing about his friend and former colleague. Jeff is a senator from arizona who was pretty salty towards nominee trump when he had his meeting in the senate. Some people thought it was a bit disrespectful, but it definitely was confrontational. Pence on theke ticket, it is another window to getting the nominee part of that party unity in all corners. Secondly, the donors and consultants in the Trump Movement are longtime friends and longtime supporters of governor and congressman mike pence. This is the is first major decision by the nominee in terms of personnel. What say you about someone you work with and trusted for a very longtime. I am continuing with my featured interview because the country will have to get to know this guy. Talk about the family, mrs. Pentz and their children and what kind of family they are . Pence an mike pence have been married for 31 years. Their son is recently engaged and said the nation. Charlotte and audrey, their two daughters. The children are all in their mid to late 20s and they are a very he. They are a tightknit family and they make decisions together. It was reported that their one daughter was with them when they came out to meet the trump family several weeks ago. I think the trumps made a decision when the children were ages 4, 5, and six when he got to congress, and they made the decision to be together as a family in the washington suburb, to raise the children there. They had dinner together every night. That is very suite and very much they are. Active. Very karen has kept a lot of her own schedule. And popular speaker leader in indiana. As the country gets to know them, they will bury do much enjoy them they will very much enjoy them and like them. The official vetting of governor pence was fairly clean. Kelly and, there have been a lot of activity in the rules committee in cleveland. The campaign is monitoring it very closely. Efforts to forge a compromise have broken down. Whatcan you tell us about will get you guys what you want . Those conversations are ongoing and that is a function of the rules committee and Platform Committee. These conversations are very healthy. The democrats had a conversation like that in orlando were sanders people got an awful lot of what they wanted. These conversations are healthy. There are some people who are part of that never Trump Movement and the free the delegates will be done to pull my hair out movement double be disappointed because they feel betrayed that some folks may be looking to make a difference for 2020 and not 2016. That is Something Else i wanted to say about mike pence. Story. An everymans my party was appearing close to the party of the elite. I appreciate the fact that donald trump has brought the to thecan party more party of the worker through a lot of his plans and ideas. I think trump tends i think trumps ticket would complete that. With the cornfield mike pence grew up with a cornfield in his backyard. Relate to somebody who is not ivy league educated, comes from a bluecollar background, knows what it is like to lose a job and wait for the next paycheck. Something mitt romney tried to pretend he knew in 2010 and nobody believed it. I am happy for my party, too. I dont want the Republican Party to be the party of the elite. And who has influence in the party. Positive step forward, especially when it seems at a time when Hillary Clinton is having a very difficult time any trust and projecting herself as a person of the people. Positive step forward. Only one person make that decision, donald trump. E u are like what is up with ted cruz coming into cleveland . I am thrilled that senator is speaking at the convention. He will have a lot to add. I am glad that trump asked him and that senator cruz agree to speak. Why hasnt he endorsed him yet . What does that mean . He is going to the convention. Take it as it is. He will inspire a lot of people. Erycame in second in a v tough year. He got the silver. Governor walker and governor very positive step forward. A lot of reporting has been about who will not be at the convention. We have to force ourselves will be at the convention. I can tell you back at headquarters, everybody is very excited about the convention coming together. They are going through a great deal of grassroots, bottomup, baker that we saw also the primary. That will continue into cleveland. Place like philadelphia, Hillary Clinton runs the risk of being overshadowed by two president s that are more power popular than her. This is Donald Trumps convention. By the time he could to the crescendo on thursday it will be record ratings. I cant wait to see you there. The only person i know who could try to spin the presence former president to a quite popular into a negative for the democrats. It is always a pleasure. It is negative for Hillary Clinton. Up next, wisdom from strategic masterminds. With us now from chicago, dunn. Carville and anita anita, start with you. We want to run to the people on trumps final list. Tell us the good and the bad of what you think about each prospect. What do you think of trump taking mike pence . Himt think it could help carry indiana, perhaps. That is good, right . He is not exciting. He is not dynamic to stop he has real negatives from his time as governor. Mark james, what do you think . It helps the democrats carry indiana. He cant win the governorship will stop mark youre both pretty bullish on pens. Pence. A badyou think it is idea. Do you think christie would be a good running mate . He isnt the only thing he ever had to do in the campaign is to go debate over the democrats nominate. He would probably do pretty well. Unfortunately, he brings his record and personality with him. I think that outweighs his performance in debate. James, do you think that is right . It is something, he crushed marco rubio. Of downside to go with some potential upside. That the democratic Vice President of nominee cant get ready for a debate which is a big assumption. It is scary that james and i are agreeing this much. You had a decadelong relationship with Newt Gingrich. Do you think gingrich is a better choice than the other two . The combined Approval Ratings in each of their states, georgia and new jersey and indiana i dont think it adds up to 75. Republicans are going to a deep bench of talent. This is a reflection of a deeper problem that they have. Is an aggressive guy. I guess trump thinks he could attack hillary and give him some slack to do other things. That is all i can think of. They actually did have a number of really good potential choices who either announced early there no intention of running or who trump has insulted like susana martinez. Gingrich isthat obviously someone trump is comfortable with. We do think that is is important. Nothing says future like someone who speak your in 1995. Or first lady then. Youre talking about i will guess my the visage of session to be a particularly stronger choice in the first three we talked about. I am not sure what Jeff Sessions brings aside from the ability the trump has somebody in washington to potentially could help him with the legislature. I dont think that would stand up to scrutiny. Senator sessions as someone who trump seems comfortable with. He is very partisan from a deep south state that will not be competitive. The abilityves him to say that he picked somebody. I think if you look at the people out there talking about beginning of the Republican Party, if i am a republican i have to be sickened by this selection with the choices i have right now. I think that is obvious. But hillaryk a clinton. Conventional wisdom remains it is tim kaines to lose. What is another name out there or should be out there that you think would be a Good Alternative to tim kaine . Always been a fan of Elizabeth Warren being on this ticket. The exciting excitement of having to women, but also Elizabeth Warren is a great campaigner and connected very well with voters who are concerned about economic inequality. It would be a great ticket. Well, i would love Elizabeth Christie debate. That would be something i would love to see. Terrific,warren is the castros, i dont think we will know. Be very deliberate and Read Everything and listen to everybody. It will be hard to go wrong. If he picks Chris Christie, please pick Elizabeth Warren. That would be one debate for the ages. [laughter] james, let me stay with you. If you are thinking about the running mate selection as trying to address it political problem, what is the main political vulnerability that clinton needs to solve . If you look at the polls across the board, she has to for that she is in it people as opposed to herself. Somenk warren would have help there. Many collegeeducated republicans at a very nervous about voting for trump. She might want to go in a different direction. Think up at tufts theyre doing an interesting thing. I wouldnt put Something Like that passed her. I think that the Democratic Coalition is sufficiently ascendant that if he unify it is pretty hard to lose the general election. Should bese picks fine. Anita, what is your thought about that same question . She doesnt need to solve the number of problems donald trump does. He needs to solve for experience and ability to get things done in washington. Knowledge, and basic temperament and qualifications to be president. All of which i think are unsolvable by his Vice President. For secretary clinton, she could go with a candidate who is a Younger Generation who could send a message about the future and also stronger together, diversity. Or, she could look to somebody who can help communicate that she does care about people. I think she does. That would be somebody in the economic spirit. Is a terrific guy and a great campaigner, fluent in spanish. He is the experience and qualifications that people look for. He would be additive as well to the ticket. At the end of the day, it is who does she think should be the Vice President based on her knowledge and her belief of who would make a good president. She will make a good choice. James, a giving advice to Hillary Clinton these days . Always giving indirect defies. Seti think she is pretty going through each thing. I just know her. I know she will go through this. I think shes pretty much going to she will listen to whatever anybody has to say. How run against both Bernie Sanders and donald trump, got a little bit more the status quo side and i think she really is. How can you be more change than donald trump, and a sense . A nominee that would send that there is a message that there is some change coming would be helpful. I think that is something to consider. Anita, you talked to a lot of democrats in these battleground states. How is your overview of democrats are feeling about the prospect of possibly losing to trump in this race . Well, i think polls that are done in july after a significant news event that was negative are not exactly ones that are productive for what will happen in november. There is a lot of campaign between now and then. Trump was artificially low base on the worst month of campaigning in the history of a modern president ial campaign. Are people worried about the Democratic Party . No, i think they understanding will be a close race and we have to go out and win it. We shouldnt be complacent. Democrat sometimes look at trump and ink how could that guy ever when. There is a complacency we should worry about. These polls are a wakeup call. I dont think people are worried. They look at her and see debates who can win the and have a great convention. Basically, going headtohead against donald trump she is going to win. Week,the wake of last louisiana, i know youre familiar with that state, and the horrors of last week trump is playing the law and order card. Is that smart for him . Now, i was reading that he that there are people calling for a moment of silence for the shooter in dallas. Of course, no one can find any such thing. I dont think i find it hard to believe in any sense that when people are looking for the country to get unified and are concerned abut all this that donald is the goto person. Diehard clinton supporter. I believe that, i dont see how hes playing this thing anything close to the way that the country is looking for on this. 30 of the country would agree with him no matter what, probably so. I dont see any minute he said would expand that at all. We have just a little bit of time left. What you wonder about the role but look in Republican Convention . They are an opportunity to prevent your present your story the way you want to. They havent given us and the indication of what that is going to be. It is one of the greatest opportunities he will have to present his story to a he wants to. The question is, can they rise up to that occasion . Can they use it the way it should be used . Tonext, a roundtable on what expect here in cleveland next week. More inn cleveland for. Any Convention Next week ofis great to see the two you. Your report on social justice and interesting topic that a become pertinent of late. Of the little but open carry and the laws that pertain to the state and what that might mean for the security situation that the republicans are facing. Laws in ohio mean they can ban stuff like that packs that are too big or water guns but not actually any handguns. They cant ban ar15s, so anybody coming from around the carrying those and as outside and openly holster as long as you can see them. They dont need a permit. Basically, you could see people with guns out loaded or unloaded. Abouteople are worried that. I wrote a story people talking with the idea that after dallas people are worried that it will add to the confusion already confusing National Convention. Passions are already high was donald trump. Not just confusion, but fear and paranoia. I know some groups are comesting and said we will packing. There are groups like that. The Southern Law Poverty Center describes them as this really extremist militant right group. They say there that you help of the Police Officer to their job and to basically shoot somebody things get out of hand. Theres a Pro Trump Group having a really big celebration rally on monday. They say they will try to end people from long arm in there. Those are those ar15s. The problem is, it is squishy. You can kick people out but have to imagine if someone has a loaded ar15 strap to their back telling them it will be hard. John no kidding. Mike, talk about your general sense of the campaign to the rnc and the delegates in this event. Yeah, i have been talking to some delegates around the city who are working on the Platform Committee getting ready for the rules coming up. To be here inted cleveland. It is my hometown and an exciting time. Im not getting the same reaction from delegates postop especially people putting the platforms together. They had no reason to believe that trump will be campaigning on any of these issues they spent weeks and months assembling. Virginia foxx was brought to tears yesterday after putting this Platform Committee together. There is just the disconnect between delegates and their candidate. I talked to some people that said were building our platform and he is running up a campaign. That is just the way things will be. Not a lot of real excitement of their. Likeg them about what they about trump, many say he is not clinton. I think i can be an effective political message. Im not sure how much excitement that reflects. We were talking about delegates, what are they thinking right now . Do the never trump people think they have a chance . They are telling me it is a victory. Pyrric if they can convince people they want to talk about the process. That is that the primaries are how theyta point and decide to vote on the floor of the convention. Flawis, to me, an inherent in this argument. If you want if the art for trump it seems to me like you have to be for someone. They want to talk about the process. Party together, and if it leads to someone other than trump, great. Motivate people on process even in cleveland. Thank you, and we will be right back. For watching this addition of the best with all due respect. He will be back monday with a brandnew show and the National Convention here in cleveland. Until then, had to Bloomberg Politics for the latest. Remember, and washington, d. C. Listen to us on the radio. This is mike and murphy live in cleveland while we are awaiting the first public appearance of donald trump and his running mate, indiana governor mike pence. Live inl be appearing downtown new york at the hilton hotel, where they will be unveiling a message together as a start this Campaign Together at the contender that donald trump now says was always his first choice as a running mate amid tremendous controversy as to how this pick was rolled out. 36 hours of true chaos in the Trump Campaign where we saw speculation about who was going to take this job as he moved from saying, i am not