Questions about their yearlong investigation which republicans say Health Clinton to a different and lower standard than other government employees. All day, he was cool and confident as he over and over gave virtually no ground to critics of his view of the case. Republicans made a lot of attacks today republicans main line of attack was not that clinton should have been indicted, although they mentioned that quite a bit they are frustrated on that point but they harped on this, that clinton was not entirely truthful in past statements, including under oath. A republican from utah said he would send a referral to the fbi to investigate clintons testimony which she gave under oath during the Benghazi Committee hearing last october. Here is comey answering questions today. Did Hillary Clinton lied to the fbi . Comey we have no basis to conclude she lied to the fbi. Did Hillary Clinton lie under oath . Comey not on the case we were working. Secretary clinton said she never sent classified information in her private email. Was that true . Comey our investigation concluded so that was not true . Comey thats what i said. There were a small number of portion markings on i think three of the documents. Secretary clinton said all workrelated emails were returned to the state department. Was that true . Comey no, we found thousands that were not returned. Secretary clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email content individual . Comey no. Of the information you found, with someone who was sophisticated in those matters would it be obvious that that was secret information . Comey yes. Did she have to sign a form regarding her response ability safeguard the information . Komi comey yes. Did you look at the Clinton Foundation . Was the Clinton Foundation tied into this investigation . Comey im not going to answer that. John that is a bombshell that occurred late in the hearing when he was asked if the investigation included the Clinton Foundation. That is one thing republicans have really seized on. The other thing is the question of clintons truthfulness. Overall, how did he do . How did republicans on the committee to . What is the bottom line now for Hillary Clinton . John i will answer briefly, at first at least. Comey gave a master class in how you go to capitol hill and deal with an oversight Committee Hearing of this kind. He was, as you said,, cool, confident, collective, a sort of authoritative, and had grace under pressure. I said before i thought republicans probably could not do a creditable job, particularly given their history. I thought the Committee Conducted itself reasonably well, although i do not think they advanced the ball very much, and i think for Hillary Clinton, this basically concludes a week that because it ended the existential threat of indictment, this hearing was in the balance good for her, not bad for her, and she is very close to being able to put this entire thing behind her as a legal, political matter. Mark i have one big negative thing to say about comey and some negative things to say about republicans and how they did. Lets look additionally at how comey did, which, as you said, very strong. Comey i believe the investigation was conducted consistent with the highest traditions of the fbi. Two things matter in a criminal investigation of a subject what did the person do, and when they did that thing, what were they thinking . We do not want to put people in jail unless they prove that they knew they were about to do something wrong. Should have known, must have known, had to know does not get you there. You must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they knew they were engaged in something that was unlawful. Mark comey frustrated republicans because he basically did everything he could to help Hillary Clinton, or so it seems. A lot of the things he said over and over when pressed was that he could not say what kind of penalty someone who worked for him who did what Hillary Clinton did would receive. He did not give a lot of stuff for republicans to work with, even when pressed, but he has gone around saying today, i want to be transparent. I need to be transparent, but he did not take questions from reporters. For instance, the Clinton Foundation case i do not get. My bigger criticism is of republicans. Yes, they had basically a day and a half to prepare, but the chairman chose not to wave the rule that limits everybody to five minutes block for questions. There was not a democrat on the Committee Interested in getting any acts. Getting at any fact. They were just there to help Hillary Clinton, which is par for the course in washington on partisan hearings, but no republican, with the exception of one or two, got any momentum on questions, and a lot of them just wasted their five minutes. Hillary clinton, i think, when the day won the day. Comey helped her, i think, but it was not as bad as the benghazi hearing. John one important thing, at least to my mind, one of the big criticisms was when comey said he would not recommend an indictment because you could not prove intent to have broken the law, and a lot of republicans said a couple of days ago that thats not the standard. It could be gross negligence. Comey had strong responses and made good arguments for why that was not and should not be the standard under the law and he also cleared up some things with respect to the classified markings on a very small number of emails in a way that both was clarifying and also, i think, politically helpful or the Clinton Campaign. Lets move on to donald trump. Meanwhile, the republican presumptive nominee made a rare appearance on capitol hill today, meeting behind closed doors with house and Senate Republicans. Reviews from rankandfile house members were mixed about that first meeting. Georgia congressman tom price called the pitch a unifying speech, while others said it did not change their negative views of the partys divisive result of nominee. A meeting with the Senate Republicans that came afterwards was apparently somewhat less collegial than the morning meeting with the house. Donald trump reportedly called out some senators who refused to back his candidacy, including a senator from arizona who urged trump to stop attacking mexicans. Last night, trump spent long stretches of his rally in cincinnati meandering through a wide array of topics, including yes mosquitoes. Donald trump i used to talk about japan. Now i talk more about china, but its still japan. I could talk about my grandchildren. Then we talk about guns. Jack nicklaus he is the greatest guy. Bobby knight. I love my protesters. Dont we have so many protesters today . I love saddam hussein. I hate saddam hussein, but i love saddam hussein. The problem is i am a professional. And they love ivanka. And they love melania. Big don king. Newt gingrich is going to be involved with our government. That i can tell you. Ok . Isnt it nice when you dont read from a speech. Maybe i will open it on november 7, the day before the big day. My boy, i love you. I look relatively thin. The democrats there was a mosquito. I dont want mosquitoes around me. I dont like mosquitoes john that speech got, lets say, mixed reaction from republicans. Trump also got mixed reaction from congressional republicans. At this hour, the last 12 hours or so, 16, 18 hours, has trump helped or hurt his efforts to unify the Republican Party . Mark it is extremely mixed. The meeting with House Republicans and the general rallying around the anticlinton reality that he represents, i think on balance he is having a good week in terms of unifying, but the outliers and his picking fights with some senators today is just not helpful, but the truth is if he picks a good running mate here i go into my broken record mode fixed a good running mate, has a good convention, he will have all the unity he needs, and if he does not execute on those, a meeting on capitol hill will not make any difference. John if you look at the reporting coming out of those meetings on capitol hill, i think theres no question on balance he helped himself. The reaction of house members more positive than the reaction of some senate embers. A good day for trump today on capitol hill. I think his performance last night, however, just sewed even deeper doubts among political professionals, elected officials, and probably some of those same congressmen and senators who were in the meetings today about his ability to do the basic work that any winning president ial candidate has to do, which is maintained some degree of message discipline and focus and talk about the things you should be talking about that help you get closer to winning an election. He did not in my view do any of that last night and has not in any way capitalized effectively on Hillary Clintons moment of vulnerability postcomey. Mark they have more staff coming on board. They seem still flailing a bit or casting about a bit, and the convention is still coming together. Trump promised a convention schedule. Dont have it. But it will all be up to trump and he will win or lose based on performance. Hillary clinton, Bernie Sanders, and their unity project continues to live along. They are reportedly in talks about the possibility of holding an endorsement event in New Hampshire on tuesday, where the obamaclinton unity event was back in 2008. Sanders withheld. Sanders withheld support for clinton as he tries to pull her and the Democratic Party further to the left on as many fronts as he can. He is doing all right so far. He has had some success. On his wish list, you have the education event yesterday, and today, sanders in an interview with al hunt, talked about some possible areas of additional consensus. Sanders we have made real progress. I want to see specific language about raising the minimum wage to 15 an hour. I believe in this country people who work 40 hours a week should not be live in poverty. They call for now on the platform. Sanders no, they do not. It has to be clear. Second, i think we need to make sure that the tpp the transpacific partnership, which is, in my view, a continuation of disastrous trade policies in the past which have cost us millions of decent paying jobs, has led to a race to the bottom i think we should be clear in saying that should not come up in the lameduck session. Forget it. Al that would be a direct slap at barack obama, who is the most popular figure, the most popular democrat in the party right now. I know you are opposed to it, which is not a slap, but saying, im sorry, mr. President , you cannot bring that up in a lameduck sanders i was under the impression we live in a democratic society. Mark it looks like clinton will get Bernie Sanders support, but where does she stand with sanders backers now . John i dont know. Theres still a very raucous, loud group of sanders supporters you run into who seem to be really dead enders on this question. I think she has done a lot of good, certainly with sanders himself, and is no doubt some of the platform language will get her part of the way there. I do not know. A lot of it comes down to how the endorsement event goes and what does sanders say about her not just that day but in the days after that endorsement . We just do not know that yet. Mark i think also her running mate and Convention Choices will be a big deal as well. A lot of people on the left could be persuaded by symbolism if she picks someone further to the left for prominent convention speakers, keynote speaker, the person who introduces her, etc. Do they talk about issues on the matter of sanders supporters . After the convention, there will be a lot out there reminding sanders supporters why a lot of them would prefer Hillary Clinton over donald trump, why they need to rally even if they do not like everything about her. The Clinton Campaign spokesman will talk about todays hearing on Hillary Clinton and the fbi right after this. Mark joining us now from the fancy new camera at her campaign headquarters, the new campaign spokesperson. He will be trying to turn this into a victory lap, the parts of the hearing he liked, but i will try to head him off on that. When comey was asked if there was a separate investigation into the Clinton Foundation and would not answer, do you have any reason to believe there is an Ongoing Investigation by the bia and Justice Department into the Clinton Foundation . I personally have no knowledge to that effect and as someone who used to work at the Justice Department, i can tell you the normal practice is to not answer that question one way or the other, regardless of if there is an investigation or not. No comment in that situation really does not tell you anything. John you had this hearing today. I know your view is republicans did themselves no good today and this was a good day for Hillary Clinton because that is what you would say, but having director comey go through all the places where he found fact that he believes are at odds with what she said throughout the year how can that not the politically devastating . Be politically devastating . Brian i thought that later on in the hearing under further questioning, the director contextualized a lot of those answers and actually brought into alignment a lot of the statements we heard from him at his dress conference earlier press conference earlier this week compared to the statements Hillary Clinton has been making all along. He affirmed, for instance, that it is his belief that she set up this arrangement as a matter of convenience. He completely disputed the that there was any analogy to be drawn between her situation and David Petraeus or the former cia director. He explains that even though he previously said there appeared to be some emails that had markings on them, that those documents were improperly marked and that even someone who was well steeped in classification rules might look at that document and not judge it to be classified. On one point after another, i felt like he fleshed out some of his points from the other day and a lot of apparent contradictions between what he said at the press conference and what Hillary Clinton has been saying all along were actually square. John again, let me come back to some of the things there were an awful lot of things wherewith the Committee Found or what the fbi found and what secretary clinton has claimed for a long time that all the emails were turned over, that the classification markings you are right there was some clarification brought to bear, but dozens of what should have been classified emails was still received by the secretary. How do you deal with donald trump and now campaign ads featuring the director saying she did not tell the truth on repeated occasions . Brian i think what will linger in the mind of most voters was the bottom line the fbi reached, which was that there was no willful intent to commit fraud. The discussion has been animated by the fact that there has been an ongoing Justice Department review, and it has been that prospect, that unknown potential about what may come of that review that has enlivened the discussion. Now that that is taken off the table, i think a lot of this now is reduced to a partisan backandforth and the hearing today actually blew up on republicans. In general, if a couple of days ago, director comey put the emphasis on the areas where he wished Hillary Clinton would have acted differently, i thought today because of the way republicans conducted a hearing, he was in the position of having to justify and defend his position about not Going Forward with a case, and as a result, we got a lot of positive information that backed up a lot of what we have been saying for months, so i really think the blue this opportunity and to the extent republicans try to keep the focus on this, i think voters just will not go for it he does the bottomline is that this case is closed as far as the career officials of the Justice Department are concerned. Mark let me ask you about one thing which seems to be a discrepancy. Im sure you can clear it up. Your camp suggested that in order to ensure foia was completely followed, Hillary Clinton had her lawyers read through all the emails, meticulously dividing the government from business once. Personal from government on the business ones. Comey says they did not read them. They looked at headers and did word searches. Is he right . Did they misrepresent how complete that search was . Brian i think the search was pretty complete. In addition to looking at headers and doing searches for a wide range of terms, they did read a large number of them. Mark the proof is in the pudding. Reading a large number of them is not the same as reading all of them, and according to the ei, they missed a lot which were fbi, they missed a lot which were not handed over, meaning the record was not complete. Brian but i think with the director said and affirmed again today was that there was no evidence that there was a deliberate effort to conceal anything or hold that any emails. Mark its not a matter of trying to conceal but a matter of leaving behind a complete record. She chose not to do that and did it relatedly. I do not think you are challenging the directors account brian not challenging. Mark you acknowledge it was not done as completely as you all represented previously and it was done in completely, right . Brian i would not say it was an incomplete review. I would say it was an extensive, exhaustive search that took weeks on the part of some of these lawyers. If you think about what they ended up turning over more than 55,000 pages all having to be printed out, this is a very exacting process, but im not challenging the directors comments. John still ahead, a conversation with a clinton supporter and trump super supporter. John we are back with kellyanne conway, Senior Advisor to the Trump Campaign and former democratic congressman and current clinton supporter harold ford, jr. Kellyanne, you watched, as you indicated earlier, the clintonobama event today. Putting aside the questions of the fbi, did you see a politically potent tandem there on stage or, in some way, you think they are deeply flawed . Kellyanne i think that it was a great day for Hillary Clinton. Her campaign and her candidacy could have been over with an indictment. Instead, she got on air force one and went down to North Carolina you and i paid for it, of course and stood with the president. So it was a great day for anytime you can have a twoterm sitting president basically say to voters elect her and give me the third term as potent Ronald Reagan did it for his Vice President , George Herbert walker bush and it mattered. People really wanted a third term of reagan. Its not clear that the whole country wants a third term of barack obama. But you have to say, when he was reading from the teleprompter, which was most of the time, i thought it was a steady call for her to be the next president and he was dissing donald trump because he cant help himself. But then i thought offscript, the president was full on partisan pundit. I think that was unfortunate. Hes still the president of the united states. Hes still the commander in chief. He has every right to endorse and campaign with her. But i think there is a line that should not be crossed in terms of how political one becomes. I listen to garden variety pundits all day long and they seem pretty petty and catty. I would expect Something Different here. Harold in fairness, mr. Trump has attacked the president over and over again, even continues. He has not put out the fire yet over whether or not he believes the president was born in the united states. That being said, mrs. Clinton paid her way on that trip. I dont want to repeat what i said about the two of them together. But i thought it was a formidable piece. If i were on the other side of this equation, the biggest worry i would have is whether or not this group, the two of them along with their supporters, can again reassemble and reconstitute that unbelieable coalition mr. Obama put together four years ago. Mark kellyeanne, the reason donald trump is here today is no coincidence. He changed things up to basically to step on the obamaClinton Campaigning. Explain the logic of coming to the same state, and whats hism message going to be tonight int he wake of obama campaigning with clinton and North Carolina. Kellyanne perhaps one of the greatest assets of donald trump to the electorate is that he is unapologetically unafraid of Hillary Clinton, bill clinton, and all the clinton candidacy means. Thats very refreshing because weve had republican candidates in the past really pull their punches on any number of things. And so hes taking the case right to them. He is saying i am not ceding to you one of the swing states in North Carolina, the only one of the nine, might i add, that mitt romney bothered to win in 2012. So it is a marginal redblue state. It has a republican governor and senators. But it could go either way. Barack obama won it in 2008. But it also he will go out there and make the case against Hillary Clinton. Thats what i think today, he can quotes right from the comey report, right from the comey press conference. I think the Trump Campaign can run ads directly from the press conference where it literally says fbi director comey and hes saying shes reckless. She was careles, but quote no reasonable prosecu i think he is taking the case right to and hes telling north carolinians we will be back here again and again and make the state competitive. John harold, last week, Hillary Clinton with senator warren, today with barack obama, later in the week with Vice President biden is there any risk we look at those people and say theyre great surrogates for her is there any risk that she starts to look a little uninspiring next to such a heavy hitting lineup . Harold no, i think itt reinforces for voters and reinforces for the party and independents alike the wealth and diversity and strength of the party. When you look at a Hillary Clinton in the white house, with whoever she chooses for her vp, and surrounds herself it was reported over the weekend she might consider the ceo of apple tim cook the ceo of Facebook Sheryl sandberg to be a part of that team. You combine it with a Formidable Team in the u. S. Senate, i think it signals to the country that here is a president who can work with congress that can get things done. You even heard republican senators quietly and some even publicly say they can work with her on Foreign Policy issues, Economic Policy issues. So i think just the contrary. Even today with president obama, she opened and opened with a lot of electricity, a lot of excitement and a lot of substance. And to hear the president underscore how smart she is i think only emphasizes the point more, amplifies the point more that she is not only ready but ready to work with congress in the process. Kellyanne today may be her best day with obama on the trail, because, as you suggest, john, maybe over time, it wont wear as well and she will be diminished under the far brighter star power of Elizabeth Warren, certainly president barack obama. The other risk there is she we all know that cool is is not transferable. And so her problems are likeability and trustworthiness. You really cant just impute that to someone else. I think he will do her a great job at the convention, just like her husband bill clinton did for barack obama in 2012, the most important speech in my view at the Democratic National convention in charlotte that year. So he will do that for her. But she runs the risk of looking like she needs to be propped up, that just she cant do this on her own. Mark kellyanne, before you joined the Trump Campaign, you thought tom cotton was Donald Trumps best Vice President ial choice. Do you still think that . Kellyanne oh, that was a parlor game with you on set one day. You said Say Something that nobody else has said. I think i love the list. The short list is growing. Very serious for middle [indiscernible] people like governor mike pence of indiana, senator joni ernst. Obviously, Newt Gingrich is still in the mix. I think hes got a very strong list to choose from. And i like the fact that he is meeting with them oneonone, and being somewhat public about it, being very honest about who is being considered. It also shows a unifying of the party that is often not mentioned fairly enough in the press. John next, our take on the Vice President ial sweepstakes. John welcome back. This is the final stretch of the season. Lets start with the democrats. They were all dishing out clinton talking points while dodging questions over whether they would join a ticket with Hillary Clinton. Where do things stand with her running mate decision . Mark i dont know who she is planning to pick. But according to clinton people, they are very happy with the choices. No one is going to make the case that her choices will revolutionize the race. People seem genuinely happy with those and perfectly satisfied. My sense is they dont think she is headed for the i still think she wont pick until trump does and maybe not until his after his convention. He may well take on the eve of his convention. John i think that is one of the elements share, the timing. Here, the timing. If he trump pick is next week, that will give clinton some time through the Republican Convention to the time that she will announce to step on his headlines. I hear tim kaine a lot more than tom perez. Tom perez, someone who seems maybe someone who they want to seem in consideration rather than someone who is actually in consideration. I think tim kaine is the front runner and i still think Elizabeth Warren is the best choice. [laughter] mark tom vilsack, i thought early on that he was the one that she was going to pick. He is as exciting as tim kaine, a governing partner, someone she likes to work with, someone who is loyal to her. Im not hearing that necessarily is [indiscernible] john the main case for tom vilsack as she likes him a lot and you cant discount how important that is. But it seems hard for me but hard for me to believe that he will end up on the ticket. Returning to the question of donald j trump, billionaire and Presumptive Republican nominee, trump met with two possible running mates, it indiana governor mike pence, who huddled with trump on saturday, and ios iowa senator joni ernst, who had her facetoface meeting with trump. Youve got senator bob corker from tennessee. The same question i asked you before come up where does trumps decision stand in your mind . Mark one of the funniest things i have ever heard was kelly and conway. It is similar to what happened with john mccain. Down to a handful of choices in and say, you know what, these choices may not be good enough. Expanding to joni ernst. Looked at the list and said no. No one on that list is actually right you need to think a new and think more broadly. Although, it seems that maybe they did and pence makes a lot of sense. John hes got to solve the problem he has right now, john hes got to solve the getting republicans to come home. And pence may be the best solution. Chris christie doesnt solve the problem of getting republicans to come home to donald trump. I know the clinton people, they still think trump will go with his gut in the end. They dont know anything about what is going on internally, but they expect in the end it will be Chris Christie or Newt Gingrich. Mark i dont know this for a fact, but i have one source suggesting that he has been talked out of gingrich and that they will find another role for gingrich in the administration. That may well be a dead letter. But everybody says, and the end, this is trumps decision, that he will go with his gut and that could mean anybody. Just like with palin, they are under pressure to that someone to vet someone. John coming up, ed rendell and alex stewart. John our final guest tonight is in fact two guests tonight. Ed rendell and alice stewart. I asked about what seems to be a sudden renewed, something something going on with the dump truck moving to cleveland. Some antitrump people saying they might be able to pull off a trump coup. Alice that is to be expected. People have had concerns with donald trump for quite some time and will continue. They will be speaking loud and clear. But what we expect to see at the convention, the rnc has gone through the rules process. What is expected to happen is people will galvanize and rally behind donald trump and he will be nominated as the nominee for the Republican Party. While there is a lot of folks holding their nose and have issues and concerns about some of his policies and where he stands moving forward, the number one goal, though a number one focus for all republicans and conservatives is to defeat Hillary Clinton. We cannot do it divided, we have to do it united. The best way to do it is to get together at the convention and rally behind donald trump and put all focus and all eyes on defeating clinton. John ed, im going to ask you about james comey. The things that director comey said about her were brutal yesterday. In some respects, showed her to have been not totally honest, some would say an outright liar with respect to some of the ways in which she handled her email in the course of the last year. How bad you think the political fallout from the comey statement yesterday is for her. Ed i think the problem is that donald trump blew a Good Opportunity yesterday and implied that director comey was in on the process being rigged. If he says it is rigged, it is hard for him to turn around and use director comeys used words used, words that were skating in part, against clinton. Because donald says that it was rigged. If this was all a mess to make it look good. I think he boxed himself again by not taking a deep breath, forgetting about crooked hillary, forgetting about she should have been indicted, and saying this goes to dutchman, to care and applies to serious matters and this is what director comey said. I think he made a big mistake in handling what could be a very serious problem. John let me stick with you for one thing on Hillary Clinton. Given the things that comey has said in the discrepancies he put forward, she will clearly have to talk about this at some point. Does she not have to step forward at some point and answer all of the many now questions that reporters would like to ask her after what comey said yesterday . Ed eventually she does. It is not exactly clear what the facts are. For example, director comey said he didnt bring charges, no reason a prosecutor would and why people who did similar actions were never charged well, who are those people . That would be interesting to know. He said that a lot of the emails have sensitive, classified material. But was the email in its entirety classified . That would be interesting to know. I think there is a letter lot of factfinding before anybody is in a position to answer questions. I can imagine, in one of the three president ial debates, someone is going to ask Hillary Clinton those questions. John it would be nice if she had a press conference before that. Its been a long time since she has had one. Alice, as a communications affectional and a longtime republican, how do you think your party and its presumptive nominee have handled the potential political opportunity that james comey has presented with a things he said about Hillary Clinton yesterday . Alice i agree somewhat with the governor. There is more to focus on yesterday as opposed to the rigged system. The sheer facts that comey outlined and, yes, a large number that were sent through her personal server were marked classified at the time they were sent. This flies in the face of her repeated unequivocal the now denial that any of the emails that were sent were marked classified. In and of itself, that fact alone, she lied repeatedly to the press and anyone who asked those questions. I see it hard for her to get through the next few months before getting to the debate, given the group of reporters on the ground, without having to answer some of these questions. That will be difficult for her to do. In addition to the fact that we have mass security information, National Security information, who knows who has access to this now . We dont know who has tapped into that system. That is the question that will not a known for some time. Those are the kind of things any to be pointed out, the fact that she lied repeatedly about this information, and just the sheer fact that she knew what the rules were. She knew what the laws regarding the use for a personal server and she felt that the rules did not apply to her. And those are the kinds of things that the republicans in the gop need to continue to hit on in the next months. John ed, just two words, who would be the best vp pick for Hillary Clinton . Ed i like tom vilsack. John some might say ed rendell. Great to see you both. Thanks for coming back on the show. We will be right back. John thank you for watching this edition. We will be back with a brandnew show on monday. Until then, head to bloombergpolitics. Com. Have a great weekend. Sayonara. Announcer from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Al Bernie Sanders, the socialist turned democrat, senator from vermont, stunned the political world this year by running a very competitive race with Hillary Clinton for the democratic nomination. He received more than 12 million votes in the primaries and the caucuses. She got 3. 7 million more and will be officially nominated in philadelphia in less than three weeks. Big questions remain for the challenger. Will he endorse clinton, how enthusiastically, and what are the big elements of the democratic platform and any rule