Reform. Next this is about helping people. This is about helping people. This is about doing from a humanitarian and moral standpoint is right. I and all of these members urging the president of the United States to take bold and brought action to respond to a problem that everybody agrees, everybody agrees is responding to a broken system. And trying to fix that system. Late this afternoon Republican HouseSpeaker John Boehner presented the other side of the argument. The president is threatening to take unilateral action on immigration. Even though in the past he has made clear that he did not have he did not believe he had the constitutional responsibility or authority to do that. I will just say this. Were going to fight the president to the and nail if he tooth and nail if he continues down this path. This is the wrong way to govern. Our goal here is to stop the president from violating his own oath of office and violating the constitution. It is not to shut down the government. Who will be the first to blink in the showdown over immigration that is dominating the new congress so far . I will tell you that i dont think it will be president obama. I think the president is intent on doing this. I think he felt like he disappointed hispanics and does not want to continue to do so. I think he is going to go ahead and do it. The reports about what they think they are doing, that this is not amnesty, but some sort of legal status for about half a one third of the people who are hell eat here illegally now. Its a big move for the president. How can he do this without trying to diffuse the republicans . Because right now, hes basically daring them to shut down any cooperation. There are some republicans who are saying that the president will say, im going to take this executive action, but all you have to do is pass Immigration Reform on your terms, pass a good bill, and it will be good. What is the best case for the white house if he does this . Republicans turn the house for over two democrats and let them pass conference of Immigration Reform . The best case will be in upper down vote on the senate bill. You cant. The best case is that president obama has made a promise to the hispanic voters and lock them in for 2016 for the but hes not giving them a path to citizenship, which is what they want. The other day, the National Committee said clearly a party has a problem. And they responded by basically relaxing their entire slate of leaders with few dissenting voices. One voice is different Elizabeth Warren. She spoke to the post, along with the capital and the rest of the democratic team. I believe in what the democrats are fighting for. Wall street is doing well. Ceos are doing millions more and families across the country are struggling. We have to make this government work for the american people. That is what we are here for. Im grateful to the leaders, to the caucus for giving me a chance to be part of that fight. Senator and eclipse chart Amy Klobuchar is also part of the Leadership Team. The rest of the Leadership Team is back as it was before. Our Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar enough to cure what ails the Democratic Party in the senate . Next the Democratic Caucus is largely the Democratic Caucus is largely liberal now because of polarization. Elizabeth warren campaigned for a lot of losing candidates, too, in addition to Hillary Clinton doing the same. Theyre both very able. But the fact that they are just putting their leaders back in, its surprising. What is wrong echo have joe manchin what is wrong . You have joe manchin leaving and just a couple that oppose harry reid. Elizabeth warren at least makes a compelling case on politics. She is an improvement on him in terms of messaging. But in terms of soulsearching as you pointed out, not really. The democrats dont really have a problem with the left. They have a problem with the center. Some people think if they had a more compelling message, that the core of democratic voters would have come out for the midterm. Corrected you say joe manchin is leaving gekko did you say joe manchin is leaving flaccoaround. Is leaving . I think he is sticking around. Largely following the budget blueprint that has put past by paul ryan. Has been put forward in the past by paul ryan. Democrats hate budget. John, i dont understand, given the way they feel about the spending i couldnt democrats make this a cutting political is true issue . There were some people caliphate 2013, and there was some candidates have ran on not just the ryan budget headline, but the budget. It is a lot harder for him relatively quickly maladroit democrats, which is what they have been in theft of economic benefit like, was able to adjust. Now have the majorities which is what they have been rather than like barack obama who was able to adjust. Ask the contours of the debate on the budget are to allow president obama attack them for cutting food stamps, cutting social programs, changing medicare and medicaid, changing social security. I said cut, a restraint or whatever. Republicans are taking a fight. As republicans and democrats are picking him him unhappy as he was asked if she is her powerful position in the house and she responded by leveling a direct charge of the of sexism as you can ask just interesting to see how many times that is of sexism. Just as interesting is to see how many times that much as a man. John boehner is on the front of time it is with you cover of time entity. Is there a pattern here . That i appreciated that with all that statement. Is she right . I was done she been a bit on the cover of Time Magazine. I dont think it is sexism, but id take her point. Neither of them has ever been majority leader or speaker and then lose the majority. This is obviously a burr under her saddle. If you were the first woman speaker of the house in the history of the body and you have not been on the cover of Time Magazine and john boehner did and Mitch Mcconnell did, you would be right to be perturbed. Nancy pelosi could be reelected speaker. I think she should have been on the cover of time. As a powerful speaker, that is when she was. She seemed pretty hot about that. It did not escape her notice. She was probably in a couple of airports when she saw the mcconnell cover. And it kind of steamed her. Coming up, we will host one of these. Will it be the pianist, the White House Communications director, or the disney actress . Our guest tonight is a message maven who has worked with bill clinton, barack obama, and fortuitously with john edwards. She joins us from the washington bureau. Lets start with a softball. If you could not be you and you had to be another pulmonary another paul mary, which would you rather be . Matteo paul mary, and italian historian of the 15th century, any paul mary who won 10 Grammy Awards eddie palmieri, who won 10 Grammy Awards, or isabella . I would say isabella. Shes the only one i did not know about. You knew about eddie and matteo . I knew about eddie. I dont think he may be italian. I did not know much about matteo. If you look at the picture, hes very handsome. Naturally, thepalmieri men usually are. What is different about your work settings, in terms of hanging out with them and comparing and contrasting them . Lets say, hanging out with the senior staff and the white house. People ask a lot what the difference between two white house is is. I would say the Clinton White house was just a little more volatile. You know, decisionmaking happened at a slower pace in the Clinton White house and at a very frantic pace at the end of the event that you had to deal with. And i guess president obama in terms of people to spend time with. President obama is probably more likely to engage you on happenings outside of politics. Perez president clinton might choose to whereas president clinton might choose to mcgill u about a coon supper might choose to regale you about a coon supper that he went to 30 years ago. You are more likely to get politics of clinton and more likely to get Popular Culture with president obama. There was a democratic leadership election on the hill today. President obama has been clear saying this is a big loss for the party in the midterms. There should maybe be some soulsearching about what went wrong and ways to change going forward. Whether the right message to project that is by reelecting basically all the same leaders with the exception of Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar, and most important he leaving the top leadership of harry reid. Is that the best message for democrats to send to the voters at this moment . I think the democratic leadership, nancy pelosi and harry reid, they are both very capable that we have albany will to rely on in the Obama White House and helping the president with the agenda. I dont know what the question should be for congress, which is who are the best leaders to run the Democratic Caucuses in both of those houses . These are very accomplished and talented politicians who also lead their caucus very effectively. Is your hunch that isabella thinks harry reid is an inspiration for the future . My hunch is that she probably is not aware of harry reid and hes probably not aware of her. But we are talking about within the congress. I think in terms of what the white house has taken away, the lessons weve taken away from the election, weve done a lot of thinking about it before the election and after the election. We think the message is not that people one action. They want washington to be solving problems. We think that for the president , that means he should be out addressing whatever problems he can as aggressively as he can, particularly those that are focused on the future. If you look at the last three weeks, we announced we are continuing to do Immigration Reform and we will do that before the end of the year. We had an announcement on monday. Yesterday, we had this great deal on Climate Change with china, all of which are very future oriented and addressing real problems. The president is at his best when hes on the offense like that in terms of solving problems. We think that is our take away from what the country wants of him. That is a pretty good run of executive action, as you summarize it. And one of the things did he has not done yet that he said he will do is immigration. Im asking you personal question here. Do you and the president believe john boehner and Mitch Mcconnell that when they say that if he takes executive action on immigration that it will ruin the entire effort for reform and the legislative agenda . Do you believe them when they make that threat . No, i believe both leaders would like to enact Immigration Reform. We believe that. You said no, and i want to clarify. You think they are bluffing, is that correct . Play out your end. A stable they say they will not move on comprehensive reform and it will harm any ability to do anything if the president takes that step. That is looking into how they will choose to react to something. Im asking you if you believe them or you think they are bluffing. Do you believe them or not . Bluffing what, the fabled then not that they will then not choose to not work with us . Would have been working with them for years on Immigration Reform. We have been working with them for years on Immigration Reform. We have been listening to what they say, Speaker Boehner particularly. Im going to try one more time. Do you believe them or not when they say this will impact the relationship between republicans and the white house and congress . That is up to them if they wanted to impact the relationship. All i can tell you is why we think it shouldnt. All i can say was how we are going to react to this. The president by the end of this year, he is doing something on immigration. He is either signing hold on. He is either signing a law or taking executive action to deal with the problem. There are areas that we think we can work with republicans in congress. Obviously, infrastructure paid for by Corporate Tax reform, thats a great example. We want to work with them on that. And the president had a lunch last week. We will continue to reach out to them. There will be no shortage of us reaching out to the republicans to try to figure out where we can Work Together. But what does not make any sense is for us to hold back on a problem like Immigration Reform because republicans are going to oppose us. Hold on, there are things they will do. They were probably vote to repeal the fourball care act. Maybe they will vote not to fund the Affordable Care act. We will continue to work with them. We will them where we can. Our view is that we understand they dont agree with us on everything, but lets Work Together we can. But after having been through this you know, we started this in january, 20 13, doing Immigration Reform. We are not going to hold back and not move forward if the president can solve a problem helping a lot of people because republicans dont want us to do that. They have free will. They could pick up legislation at any point and pass it if they wanted to. There is just no credible reason from our perspective for a while he would not act. If the president does this executive immigration act and the republicans then pass Immigration Reform next to the does not have a pathway to citizenship, with the president signed that bill or not . Would the president signed that bill or not . That is not what is in our principles now. We will work with them on Immigration Reform, but that is not in our principles. We are looking for a pathway to citizenship. This is the first step and we would like comprehensive reform, but we would like a path to citizenship. Thank you. When we come back, i hope the court document, and a town in cecelia. We were filled with unbridled glee today when we found out Antonin Scalia was giving a public speech particularly given the host of issues facing the court, like obamacare, samesex marriage and voting rights. You can imagine our surprise when we found he would not be talking about any of those things, but rather the magna carta. We chopped up his speech and now present it to you ala carta. As a result of all this, king john had to put the matter, in todays parlance, a profoundly low approval weight approval rate. [laughter] youve got to hand it to my tennis partner for stop use only person in america that could make a decent joke about the magna carta. The 13th century brought multiple reissues of the magna carta, and its companion charter, which was called charter of the forest. Oh, the charter of the forest. His confirmation on a lima memorialized magna carta, but provided not only memorialized magna carta, but provided that quote, if any change to come to the manic carter, it shall be undone and holden for not. Its great stuff. Holden for not. Holden for naught. And we have yet to enter the 14th century. Who drafted the charter for the king james the first when judges not only adjudicated, but were laws. [laughter] i mean, officially wrote laws. He is like the seinfeld of the supreme court. Granting the prerogative without grant of parliament is illegal. That is core magna carta. He is able to get so excited about a document that is literally 800 years old. It is here that we have our second notable jurist as good as that is, i think we have seen enough. We will be right back. Bloomberg law is coming up next. See you monday