And also my filing system. Over much of the past three decades i have been an investor. The highest calling of mankind ive often thought was private equity. And then i started interviewing. I watch her interview so i know how to do interviews. Ive learned from doing my interviews how leaders make it to the top. I asked how much he wanted, he said 250, i didnt negotiate and did note diligence. David i have something id like to sell. You dont feel inadequate because you are only the second wealthiest man in the world, is that right . One of the most admired people in the world is dr. Jane goodall. About 60 years ago she moved to africa to study chimpanzees and what she learned it revolutionized our understanding of what nonhumans can do. Today she is devoting herself to inspiring young people around the world to do much more to protect the climate and the environment for animals in africa and all over the world. I had a chance to sit down with dr. Jane goodall recently and learned firsthand why this woman, 89 years old, is still so admired and dedicated to helping make the planet a better place. So, thank you very much for coming here and we are going to go through a lot of what youve done and the things that made you make you so popular. On your last name, that kind of describes everything, good all. Did you ever think to change it to good for all because you are doing some any other things or great all . Dr. Goodall we have on our website, good for all news. I truly believe the media, we need to know the doom and the gloom. But why not give more time to the amazing people around the world that you read and people will say, they did that, we could do it too. David you have inspired a lot of people. A lot of people have read about what youve done. Lets go through how this came about. You grew up in london, or england. When you were one years old you read you were given a book about chimpanzees, is that true . Dr. Goodall it was my father who i didnt really know because it was just before world war ii and he joined as soon as war was declared. But he gave me a stuffed chimpanzee jubilee. He was named for the first chimpanzee born in the london zoo, and the jubilee, queen george and mary, i suppose. I took him everywhere with me but people have the misapprehension that because of that, i studied chimpanzees, it wasnt true. My chimpanzee interest began, i finally saved up money, i had to be a waitress, we had no money in my family and we couldnt even afford university. So i did this boring secretarial course then i got invited to kenya by a school friend, so i worked as a waitress to save up the fair. And so, i wouldve studied any animal, i was 10yearold when my dream was i will go to africa, live with wild animals and write books about them. Why, because i was in love with tarzan. David you did that at 10 years old, so you told your mother you would like to go to africa and see the chimpanzees, what did she say . Dr. Goodall not the chimpanzees, i wouldve steadied anything. David what did your mother say . Dr. Goodall my mother attributed a great deal to what ive done to the wise way she brought me up. When i set i wanted to go to africa, everybody laughed at me, how will you do that, africa is far away, you dont have money, its dangerous and you are just a girl. Remember, this is going back 70 years now. My mother said, if you really want to do this, you will have to take advantage of every opportunity, and if you dont give up, hopefully you find a way. David you save your money and you told your parents you are going to africa and they didnt say, it was nice to talk about it but they didnt care if you went, is that right . Dr. Goodall my father was away, they divorced and it was my mother. And she just said, stick with it if you want to do it, and you know how many people have written to me and said, i want to thank you because you did it, i could do it as well. David so you did this at the age of 23, how did you pick which part of africa . Or tanzania, for example. Dr. Goodall my friends parents had bought a farm. I met luis leakey and he gave me this opportunity to go in study not just any animal, but the one most like us, chimpanzee, i wouldve studied a mouse if i could be out in the african david luis leakey came up with a theory that humans evolved out of Southern Africa and he was famous for that. Did you get to know him . Max 8 told you, i had to do that boring secretarial course. When i heard about luis leakey and went to see him. His secretary had just left and he needed a secretary. There i was, right now surrounded by people who can answer all my questions about the animals and the birds and everything. David at one point and said, i really want to go live with the chimpanzees . David dr. Goodall no, i didnt. David as i said, you didnt say that, what did you say . Dr. Goodall i told him i wanted to study animals. Although i hadnt been to college he believe that i could do it. He had been looking for someone for 10 years to go and study, not just any animal, but our closest living relatives, the chimpanzees. David how long had you work for him before he said you could do this. So he said, ok, you could do this, but did he just give you guidance or tell you where to go . Dr. Goodall no, he didnt have money, so it took him a year to get the money, tanzania where the chimps were and are was still part of the british protectorate in the british authorities said we wont take responsibilities for this young girl, but he never gave up so in the end he said, she cannot come alone so who volunteered, that same, amazing supportive mother. David your mother came with you to africa to study the chimpanzees . Dr. Goodall she didnt do the study, she looked after the chimpanzees. David when you get there, you are supposed to live with them. Live with them and learn with them. David do you get a tent or something . Are they dangerous, werent you worried they might attack you . Dr. Goodall for me, we had an old ex army tent between us, no mosquito windows are anything like that. And i would go happily up into the mountains every morning following my dream. Mom would be left in the camp and if you wanted aaron in the tent, he rolled up the side flaps and tied them with tape and in came air, but also scorpions, spiders, snakes, which i didnt mind, but poor mom. David you set up a tent, how did you engage the chimpanzees . How did you get close to them, how did you not worry about them attacking you, how did you befriend them . Dr. Goodall with great difficulty. Remember i was sick for six months, for four of those month they ran away as soon as they saw me. I knew, given time that i could win their trust, but did i have the time, days turned to weeks turned to months and it was wonderful because what mom did, she boosted my world she said, you find that pecan with your binoculars, you are seeing how chimps Wander Around by themselves in small groups, big groups with food available. You are learning the foods ae, how they make nests at night, so she really got to boost my morale. David you are not trained as a scientist so use your powers of observation to see with they were doing . Dr. Goodall my inborn love of animals, my curiosity, my fascination, leakey told me nothing, he never even visited. David when you visit the chimpanzees, do you give them food or something . Dr. Goodall no, i try to get them used to me and it was very sad, it was just two weeks after mom left that i sought this one famous chimpanzee, very handsome, i called him david graybeard, he was the first one to loose his fear. On this special day i saw him using grass stems to fish termites from their nest. David does he get lonely with you, the chimpanzees, theres no cell phones, do you get lonely . Dr. Goodall we had lab computers, lonely, never. Try to get close. I watched some with my binoculars. If they nested, i would go back and have supper with mom, them i would go back up so that i could be near them in the morning. And i was scared of leopards, but back then we had leopards and i would hear them at night when i was up there alone with my little blanket, and i would hear the leopards pumping sound and i would think, pulled the blanket over my head. David did you ever say to yourself, how did i get myself into this or did you say, im glad im doing this . Dr. Goodall i was following my dreams. They were the best days of my life. David so, eventually you go back to dr. Leakey and you give him a report on what youve learned and in that report you kind of changed the perception around the world of chimpanzees because people thought, at that time, as i understand it, that chimpanzees are not capable of making tools, only humans could do that. And you discover that they make tools for what purpose . Dr. Goodall fishing for termites, crumpling leaves to get water from hollow in a tree that they cannot reach with their limbs. David did you ever eat the termites yourself . Dr. Goodall i had to eat one to say i had done so. David after you gave your report, he sent it to somebody and people said, how could this woman not trained as a scientist come up with a discovery that we, famous scientists, didnt know about question mark is that the essence of the problem . Dr. Goodall they were extremely arrogant, most of them, and they were saying things like, well, shes just a girl, shes straight out from england, why should we believe her. One of them even said, maybe she taught the chimps to use tools. As they were running away at the time. David eventually National Geographic gets a photographer to come over . Dr. Goto dr. Goodall National Geographic said we will fund janes research after six months money. David National Geographic was able to get people interested because of what reason . Dr. Goodall this is what the scientist said, they said the geographic is giving her money because they can put her on the cover, because shes got nice legs. So, if that would happen today, there would be a lawsuit. Back then i just thought well, it was a different world back then. I thought, if my legs had got me the money to do what i want to do, thank you legs. David National Geographic sent the photographer over, they took the pictures, it became a famous article and then you became pretty well known, did you sit did you decide to go back to england and do something else, get your phd . Dr. Goodall no, legal leakey wrote to me and set i picked you because you had not gone to university in your brain wasnt cluttered up with the very arrogant way scientists treated animals back then, as manner as mere things. But he said, now i want you to be respected by other scientists, so you must get a degree but we dont have time for an undergraduate degree, ive got your place in cambridge, University Cambridge university in england to do your phd and fl a g and fl aegean i didnt know what it meant, the study of behavior. David you skip the undergraduate part and got a phd. Dr. Goodall i was nervous, i had never been to college, just imagine what i felt like when i was told by the scientist, first of all, you shouldnt have given the chimpanzees names. If you are proper scientists, you give them numbers, then they said, you cannot talk about their personalities, their minds or their emotions, those are unique to us. They also said, you must not have empathy with your subjects because a good scientists is subjective and if you have empathy, you cannot be objective. Which is rubbish. David you got your phd, did you say would teach at cambridge or decide to go back to africa . Dr. Goodall we are still learning after 63 years. David chimpanzees you discover are not quite as nice as you want them to be and they kill each other from time to time. Dr. Goodall the males are territorial and if they see an individual from a neighboring community, communities are about 50, and that individual probably died. David when you go away and come back, they recognize you . And how do they befriend you when you come back, do they bring you a gift or something . Dr. Goodall i never wanted that kind of relationship. I wanted to like looking through a window, i wanted to watch the behavior as it is, without me being in the picture. David for many years you are living in africa, no electricity, no cell phones, no television, none of the important things you need in life to get by, right . Dr. Goodall no, they are not important at all. David obviously they can talk to each other, but is it possible that humans can convey some type of language to chimpanzees or teach them how to add . Werent you working on teaching them in addition or words . Dr. Goodall i never had but chimpanzees had been taught sign language and they can learn up to about 700 words that deaf people use, and from that you can learn fascinating things, for example, some chimpanzees love to paint or draw, not all of them and these are captive ones, of course, but one young chimpanzee, she was four years old and she used to film her pain with lovely lines of different colors. On this occasion she made a drawing like that so her teacher handed the paper back inside finish, so the chimpanzee looked at it and handed it back and said, finish. So this went on about two times and then the teacher had the brains to say, what is it, and the chimpanzees sign back a bull a human doing a bowl would do a bowl. What has the chimp done . And that gives you a whole new feeling of looking at the world through the eyes of the chimp. She is drawing the movement. David why do you think people are so fascinated by what you have achieved in your life . When you are doing this you didnt do this for world acclaim, you did it because you are interested but it turns out the world is fascinated by what youve done with your life. Why do you think that is, people of chimpanzees with the dedication youve shown, or they just admire your courage to do this . Why do you think you are so beloved . Dr. Goodall i think you should ask somebody else. Yeah, some people are fascinated by the chimpanzees, basically children. Some people love that i was a woman. I think of myself as a human, i dont care about the malefemale bit. David do you think a male couldve done this better than you did this . No. Dr. Goodall there are amazing male people studying apes but it just happened it was me. David a lot of people when they turn 89 they want to chill out, relax, maybe spend time with the grandkids, you are not slowing down any. Dr. Goodall i feel i was put on the planet with a mission in the mission is to give people hope. Constant contacts powerful tools can help. You can automate email and sms messages so customers get the right message at the right time. Save Time Marketing with constant contact. Because all it takes is 30 seconds to make someones day. Get started today at constantcontact. Com. Helping the small stand tall. 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Dr. Goodall that started in 1977 and by then i had a Little Research station and four of my students were kidnapped and everything shut down and so some friends of mine said, lets start and institute so that this research can carry on, bless them. So that was 1977, and it was set up to study, conserve chimpanzees and other animals and educate, and it has developed since then, so weve got 27 jane Goodall Institutes around the world and then i realized at some point that the African People living in at around chimpanzee habitats, right across africa, were struggling to survive, it was crippling poverty, lack of health and education, moving deeper into the forest, being exposed to diseases like ebola and hiv from the chimpanzees and vice a versa. And suddenly, it hit me, if we dont help these people to find ways of making a living without destroying the environment, we cannot conservation wont work. David youve devoted a large part of the Goodall Institute to Climate Change and conservation, is that right . Dr. Goodall absolutely, right now we face these two existential threats. Climate change, which has changed weather patterns all around the world. We had the flooding yesterday, the day before yesterday, and lots of bowel diversity, and what people dont realize, we are not only part of the natural world, even though with our cell phones and virtual reality, we feel divorce from nature, but we depend on it for food, water, clothing, everything. But what we depend on his healthy ecosystems in an ecosystem is this magical mix of plants and animals, each one with a role to play, so if you think of it as a beautiful tapestry, every time a specie goes on that tapestry, its like pulling a thread until the tapestry hangs in tatters, than the ecosystem will collapse. And its happening. David you have a fairly exhausting schedule, how frequently do you get back to africa. Every couple of weeks you are back there now . Dr. Goodall twice a year, partly because i need to go there, but we also have a big sanctuary for chimps in congo. We have another one in south africa. There is one we are involved with in uganda and i knew to go back there. I need to give support to the staff there. I go back and luckily my family, my grandchildren can come with me, so its time. David if you go back now and you look for some chimpanzees, would you find some that already knew you and what they recognize you still . Dr. Goodall there is one mother and and her daughter that i knew. I only go back three or four days at a time. I dont know the new ones, i dont know the children and the young ones, but gremlin i knew it intimately. David you are 89 years old, is that right . A lot of people, when they turn 89, they want to chill out a little bit, relax, maybe spend time with the grandkids, great grandkids. You are not slowing down at all, you are sitting in the beach going to palm beach or something . Dr. Goodall how could i, this may sound weird to you, but i truly feel i was put on this planet with a mission, and right now the mission is to give people hope because, if you dont have hope, people become apathetic and do nothing, and then we are doomed, if our young people give up, we are doomed. Ok, i dont know how many years i have left, but when i was young, i had this time, now i am coming up towards whenever the end could be. One year, could be five years, could be 10, could be 20, i dont know, but im could im getting closer so i have to speed up because there is so much i still have to do. The road to opportunity. Is often the road overlooked. At enterprise mobility, we guide companies to unique solutions, from our team of mobility experts. Because we believe the more ways we all have to move forward the further we all go. 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