They have agreed to pay a settlement. Global news 24 hours a day, powered by more than 2600 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. This is bloomberg. Caroline this is bloomberg technology. Coming up, donald inauguration is one week away. We will get perspectives from someone who is held the highest positions in washington. And we will give you a first look at a highly anticipated gaming console and speak with nintendos president. Million strike. We sit down with the president and cofounder. And repercussions remain in the spotlight as we count down to the inauguration of the president elect. President elected donald trump said that they will have a report on hacking with his first 90 days as president. This comes after intelligence that says the russian government may have gathered intelligence against him. Deniedtrump vigorously the allegations and tweeted that it was totally made up. We now turn to david westin in very special has a guest for a deeper discussion on this complex issue. From joining us california is leon panetta, chairman for the institute of public policy. He has held just about every important post in the legislative branch of the u. S. Government. Tohas been chief of staff president bill clinton and was director of the Central Intelligence agency. Thank you very much for joining us. Let us start with the Cyber Security issue. Time, when we have not i dont remember tight time when we have had this much Cyber Security issues and an election. We have reports that russians may have tried to interfere with the election. We also have the Hillary Clinton incident with the private server. The question is, is this prevalent because it is that big of a problem . I think it is the battlefield of the future, if you want to know the truth. I think Cyber Attacks will continue to increase the capabilities, and countries are continuing to develop some a countries like russian, iran, china, north korea, will all continue to use Cyber Attacks incoming at united states. What we are seeing happen, particularly with the russians, but we have also seen china be able to get intellectual capital by virtue of using cyber capabilities. North korea has gone after industries in this country using cyber, and iran has crippled aramco, computers were crippled by use of a sophisticated virus. What we are seeing with the russians and what we are seeing with other countries, i think is going to continue to escalate in the future. It is something we have to be aware of and defend against. David how confident can we be you a been in the room when intelligence agencies have said, we know this is happen. How confident are we, particularly because the president elect has said we are not sure . When you get 17 intelligence agencies that unanimously agree that russia was involved that the orders came from the highest levels in moscow, including putin, i think that has a tremendous amount of credibility. President sed that the elect recognized that russia was involved in the hacking. We could beginat to see a more trusting relationship between the new president and the intelligence agencies. Ofwill be the next president the united states, his first duty is to protect this country, and frankly he cannot protect this country and less he is able to rely on good intelligence and has a trusting relationship with those agencies. David lets go there. I dont think there has been a time in history when a president has this public disagreement. Repudiation i dont think is too strong a word to use, of the intelligence agencies. Has there been this kind of thing behind the scenes in the past . The past, there have always been questions raised about intelligence, that is nothing new. Presence that i have worked for have questioned president s that i have worked for have questioned intelligence. But those questions are usually raised in the confines of the oval office, where they should be. If the president raises questions, the intelligence people have the responsibility to respond to the questions and be able to determine whether or not the information is credible or not. Weve never had a situation where a president elect tweets out questions about the integrity of this kind of intelligence information. That is unheard of and friendly, i think it is damaging to the credibility of that information. It is damaging to the morality people who do that work in the intelligence agencies, and i think it invites our energies enemies to take advantage. I hope he can move away from that and try to deal with whatever concerns he has been the confines of the oval office. , hed to be specific tweeted out, saying that he was politically influenced. He compared it to tactics used by nazi germany. At the same time, those in the past have suggested perhaps the intelligence agencies worse were susceptible to political influence. How farfetched is his claim that there might be some political influence . As i said, when you have 17 agencies, all of whom have responsible directors as far as i know, when they come together and agree on an issue like russian hacking and trying to influence and interfere in our election process, it is pretty clear that evidence is real and something we need to take seriously. I dont think little influence was involved in their determination. Its politics sometimes involved in the way intelligence is gathered . Of course that has happened in the past, and it is something you have to be careful of. Friendly, the point of intelligence agencies is to present the objective information to the president , not to present what that president wants to hear, not present what is politically something that would be an advantage for one party or another, but percent the truth. Present the truth. There is a statement on the wall at the cia that says the truth shall set you free, and that is what the intelligence agencies are supposed to be about. Someone who hopes to be the next rector of the cia, mike pompeo, a congressman, he is going to a confirmation. He has to build bridges to his but ats, donald trump, the same time he has men and women who are sometimes putting their lives on the line. Residente reach out to elect trump and also convince his people, his men and women, irat he has there back the back . Mr. Panetta that will be the challenge. I faced the same challenge. You have got to gain the trust of the people who work there. They are not republicans, they are not democrats, they are good american. They are patriots and professionals who look at their jobs as something that is extremely important to protecting our national security. The key is for the director to be able to build a relationship of trust with the team he has at the cia, tell them he is going thatotect their back, and he will be honest with them and he expects them to be honest with him. If he can build a cut of relationship, a product of that in terms of intelligence will be the truth, intelligence that will be important to the president. Then i think the director has to build a relationship of trust with the new president. A president cannot just walk away from the intelligence community. We live in a dangerous world with isis, with russia, with china, north korea, Cyber Attacks. If the president is going to deal with this kind of challenges, he has have good intelligence. Otherwise, he will not be able to do the job of protecting the country. Ofid you also have the job chief of staff to president clinton. What advice would you give to Reince Priebus . How is he going to hurt these cap herd these cats . Mr. Panetta he is going to have a challenge. As chief of staff, i am a believer in what i call the jim baker role. There is only one chief of staff and everybody should be responsive to that chief of staff. Chain believe in a strong of command, where people have specific duties and a report to keep people. They are not wondering on their own. The danger i see is that the president is appointing a number of advisors, he is appointing a , these peopleuls have broad titles. Im not sure what their responsibilities are. If these people are just wondering around the white house, going to meetings but having no responsibility, it is going to become quite a challenge to be able to discipline the staff to work specifically for the president. David leon panetta, thank you so much for joining us today. Now we go back to Caroline Hyde in san francisco. Caroline a fascinating conversation. So timely. Thank you. Deutsche bank is telling its employs to put down their phones. The bank is battling text messages. A person with knowledge on the matter says it is an effort to improve compliance. Up next, First Impressions of the Nintendo Switch. We get our hands on the gaming console and hear from Nintendo America president about how it fits into the companys strategy. And a reminder that all of our episodes are Live Streaming on twitter. Check us out at 5 00 p. M. In new york. This is bloomberg. Caroline to the gaming world. Nintendo launched its new console, the switch. 300. The price came as a surprise to some analysts, who had expected to be less. We caught up with the end the Nintendo America president and asked him how the company justifies the higher price tag. We believe the price point is justified. Me give you a few data points. And thepresales, feedback we are from retailers is very positive. A number of the presales have come up and had to come down based on the extremely high demand. Our Consumer Base is saying, not only the price point but the proposition, the software him at the support from thirdparty publishers, it is turning on consumers and that is our key focus. To make sure the consumers understand what is the switch, and theyre very excited. Feeling that perhaps have not been as many games as have been expected. Is the really support coming from the game makers . There absolutely is. For example, we are here in new york and Holding Events where consumers tomorrow, media today, are able to get hands on to our continent. We have nine pieces of content from thirdparty developers, they are playable here today. We have announced their own there are over 80 games in development. Number,t just the sheer but the quality of the games and the key thirdparty companies that are participating. Take two. Vision, ea, all of the big players in the industry are supportive of the switch, and that tells us that from their perspective, the developers see something that excites them and the games will flow in. Caroline this is a hybrid product. You can play on your television and then moved outside. There is a concern that the handheld might be cannibalized . We have been very clear, the Nintendo Switch is a console you can take on the go. We see consumers will spend a lot of time in front of their extreme tv playing on the switch, and then when they have to go to work or school, a can take the system with them on the go. A verytendo three ds is vibrant platform, weve had your on your year on year growth. We have sold more software in a threemonth time. Time period than ever before. We have new games coming out for , shortly we will be announcing new games. It is a vibrant today and will be vibrant moving forward. Nintendo has a rich history of being able to manage multiple platforms at the same time. We are very well positioned, not only to launch the switch, that 3ds. Ain momentum on the m caroline give us an impression of how the switch will be different. Our biggest challenge was clearly committed getting to consumers what the proposition u was. We saw it was misinterpreted as a tablet. We make sure that that with we made sure that with the switch, people understood it was a console. That message is resonating. We believe we have achieved job one. Job to is driving the games and make sure the game lineup is as strong as it can be, and that is what we are focusing on right now. Applied what we u, toearned from the wii make sure the launch and sustaining. Or the switch is as strong as possible. Caroline the Online Gaming service is something new, because you will start charging for it. Do you think people will want the price point . Can you give us an idea of the price point . We have not announced the price point. What i can tell you is that nintendo is focused on making our products affordable, so our pricing for the substitution service will fall in that realm. Online is very important for us. We believe the neck and for consumers, the ability to provide full, rich games downloadable to the system, the ability to provide additional downloadable content is important to our publishers. All of that will be available. But we will also continue to innovate. We will be launching as part of the service a mobile application that allows you to create the matchmaking and voice chat that consumers want. We think that will be consistent with our gaming on the go philosophy. We are going to provide an overall online experience that really is going to be heavily compelling to the consumer. Caroline speaking of aiming on the go, the mobile game you launched, super mario run, is excitement fizzling out . Was the price point too high . When we launched super mario run, within a weeks time, apple had announced we had broken all of their records in terms of downloads, and over 50 million downloads had been publicly announced. That was within the first week. Later on this month, we have financial meetings where we will share more information about super mario run. What i can to you is that the engagement continues to be quite high. Caroline that was Nintendo Americas president. This is bloomberg. Caroline nintendos shares have lost about two thirds of their value since the peak sales of the wii console a decade ago. Now as you heard, nintendo is taking another crack at the console market with the switch. We took it for a spin. This is the Nintendo Switch. It is the companys longawaited console. 299 dollars and the launch date is march 3. Nintendo is trying to create a new way to play. They want to mix handhold controllers with the device you can play on the couch or on the go. Were going to try a little bit of mario kart. Lets go for it. Lovedis also the much zelda game coming out. A new version. Overare also working with 80 developers, but they will not be ready at launch. What is the difference between this and the wii u . We are never seen this at a console in a console. Youve always been tethered to the tv. You hop off the couch, and if you want to keep playing, you can start where you left off. You can continue to play alone or i can play with my friends. It will be important to see what sales will be like in the first two weeks, that is very critical to show consumer demand for the device. Caroline someone get all the fun. Coming up, amazon goes on a hiring spree while yahoo announces more changes. We have the biggest stories in technology. This is bloomberg. You are watching bloomberg technology. The u. S. Justice department has scathing report on civil rights abuses by Chicagos Police department. It found the institutional to seriousd led civil rights violations, including racial bias and Excessive Force. U. S. Attorney general Loretta Lynch spoke earlier at a News Conference in washington. The department of justice has concluded it is reasonable cause to believe that the Chicago Police department engages in a pattern or practice of use of Excessive Force in violation of the fourth amendment. The investigation was launched in 2015 after the release of dashcam video showing an officer shooting a black teenager 16 times. President elect donald trump met with Lockheed Martin chair and ceo today at trump tower. After the meeting, she told reporters lucky his looking to lockheed is looking to add thousands of jobs. Views that we need to get the best capabilities to our men and women in uniform and at the lowest possible price. Im glad i had the opportunity to tell him that we are close to a deal that will bring the cost down significantly. Yesterday, defense secretary nominee general james mattis said president elect trump is not a post to buying the f35 fighter, he said trump just wants the best bang for the buck. Hearing date for trumps trust terry treasury secretary nominee is set for next thursday. A final confirmation vote is unlikely before february. Hisress needs to big into 42 page Financial Disclosure and ethics agreement he released this week, to go over his last three tax returns, and a standard questionnaire on his background. The white house has released the schedule for president obamas last week in office. Mr. Obama will old his final News Conference next wednesday. The president and first lady will also host the trumps 40. Tea. The for global news 24 hours a day, powered by more than 2600 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. This is bloomberg. Caroline this is bloomberg technology. This week, it was announced is grading many thousand jobs in u. S. Is this part of a bigger strategy to get on the good side of the Incoming Trump administration . Donald trump has made it loud and clear that job creation will be a big platform. Analysts aboutr that and other tech stories that grabbed our attention this week. One of my colleagues did an analysis of 2015 and ahead about 77,000 people in that one year. It is probably already in the pipeline. Caroline this could be showing us more about amazons strategy. It was coming anyway. If you look at the growth, it has been strong. The demand has been strong. This is where thirdparty services. An use their that is their flywheel they keep talking about. Obviously there are other initiatives like amazon go, and there continued expansion of the cloud. Accelerated, which is a good strategy. What about the automation . Longer term,ttle the automation aspect of things. If you look at the window in the next 18 months, two years, this is a good thing. Caroline hiring big and spending big on real estate for jeff bezos this week. Lets talk about how the growth in one company and the demise of one, as it yet hope yahoo has been on our mind. Marissa meyers is leaving the board. Be not a surprise peered surprise. I think this is the first part of her exit plan. We dont really know what she is going to do, but i imagine she will spend a year or two rebuilding her reputation come at which has been fairly tarnished. She might be an entrepreneur or Something Like that. I imagine in 23 years, she might turn up as ceo of a new company or start her own. Web aspect of the the company goes to verizon, we basically have the investments. What is inherently left of the business . Of whatook at the value tax out of take the the equation, there is still engineering the number is big. Well have to see what tax implication, what workarounds come about for their shareholders larger term come up but potentially it is a reengineering play. Caroline there have been some jokes around Silicon Valley about altaba as a name. Joke. Nds like a drug, cands like a you take it with alcohol . Maybe some hives if you drink with it. Lastly, it was an interesting week in terms of celebrations or worries about the future of the iphone. This is still such a big product for apple. Yes, 6 billion per quarter, i think it is. I think the best, i had this week was from peter thiel, where the ceo ofd about apple, and he said yes, i know what an iphone looks like. Caroline i actually cannot tell. This is the google phone. It took them 10 years but it is just as good. Like, andat they look that there is not much innovation left. Caroline when you look at the revenue that is still so once powerfulis iphone, were expecting things from the iphone eight, there is still a lot of anticipation. What about other products that might come in . This will probably be the last spurt of growth the iphone sees. Given the expectations. Longerterm, it is about services and accessories and other devices surrounding the iphone. So we have an opportunity with ar and the are vr. , the innovation execution has not been seen with apple, so there is a lot for them to prove. It is a week and see with respect to their other opportunities. They are there and real, but as for execution, we need more proof. Tim cook is the operations guy and steve jobs is no longer with us. I think in the next couple of years, the ar product, the glasses we reported on, those things have to start hitting it, otherwise i dont think the value will hold up. That was our analysts. Two years after leaving google, andrew rubin is prepared to take on the smartphone industry. He is prepared to announce a new Company Called essentials. The company will marry his back out and software with Artificial Intelligence and consumer hardware. Mark berman, who broke the story. How do we know this will work . It will dont know if work but we know he is getting a lot of money for his incubator program. They have the best people in the business working on this, they have former apple and google recruits. There are about 40 people on the program right now. Be a new it could system, not just the software. It is being described to us as an entire hardware platform. He wants to get in different places of your life, sorting out the smartphone, and he is also looking at the smart home. Caroline as if competition was not stiff enough. Great scoop for us today. Thank you. Coming up, almost double a companys valuation. We will talk with their cofounder and president. This is bloomberg. Caroline uber is asking russian drivers to temporarily bear the of a new tax, causing some of them to quit to avoid tax filings. The law at an 18 proceed levy on 18 levy and went into effect on january 1. Uber says it will reimburse drivers later. Unicorn,to another lester was a banner year for strike. Stripe. How is the Company Using their new funds and how is it evolving . Joining us is their cofounder and president. Welcome. When youre talking to your investor base, what vision are you painting of stripe . Are twor us, there major axis of expansion. We launched, and it was just available to businesses in the u. S. Now it is available in 25 countries and we are working very hard to bring it to businesses in more countries. Last year we launched in singapore, france, spain and japan. On the newer skin incorporate this business entrepreneurs around the world can incorporate this business. It has also been helpful to our u. S. Customers. Caroline i love that element, that you are able to see where in the world youre wanting to register countries. Geographical heat areas are you seeing . John for people who might be atlas allows entrepreneurs to incorporate a u. S. Entity, get access to u. S. Bank accounts and get u. S. Advice. It is everything they need to get a business off the ground. Was that on numeral potential entrepreneurial potential is distributed broadly, but you needed to be part of the in crowd. Israelcountries like represented strongly. The hypothesis we had, people are still too focused on the particulars of the geography. In practice when you want to something online, youre launching it to the internet. That is your audience and we wanted to create more of a digital market. Caroline in this age of populism and fight back against globalization, to think that will happen . John i think it is happening. These, you tend to get the headlines show the latest swings in popular sentiment, but the longrunning trend is very clear. We think that crossborder commerce will continue to accelerate. We think the ability for entrepreneurs globally to purchase up eight in the economy will accelerate. And we think mobility will continue to accelerate. Valley, we see the value of that, the late stage private technology companies, i think over half of them have immigrant cofounders. We see this trend on and on. Caroline you being one of them, coming from ireland. We had the alibaba chairman in united states. China is an area you have been working with. How are you making it work . One of the partnerships we y, which has alipa penetration in the chinese market. Again, is the crossborder aspect of was talking about. Shared technological layer, but there are restrictions on who internationally you can trade with. If you are a Silicon Valley startup, you cannot sell into china because they dont have the payment mechanisms to trade with you. What we launched a little while is that nowipay stripe customers can have alipay credentials. The markets we are looking about our latin america and Southeast Asia as significant opportunities for growth. We lost in singapore recently. Caroline what about the verticals . Of food with the likes delivery, and transportation. Which parts are you seeing an appetite for growth . Think the trends tend to come and go, and one thing we see in the data is that you often have these very significant businesses that are built over many years. The joke is that it is an overnight success 10 years in the making. Businesses that really threw sustained execution and a huge amount of discipline are built over a many year period. That includes our product roadmap. One access of expansion one area of expansion is globalization. Credit card processing is the easiest part of building an online business. Turning stripe into a Technology Platform that provides the ingredients people need to run their online business, if you look at what we of been launching, it is a platform for substitution billing, running a marketplace. Our most recent one back in november was radar, which is solving fraud for internet businesses. How fraud all see has been happening him it is crazily antiquated. Youre traveling internationally, and your card gets blocked. Match your gpst up. Preventour businesses fraud. Is almost eight stack of startup tools. I want to know about your growth and how you have developed. How have you scaled . How have you kept your culture how you want to be when youre adding in so many different people and Different Countries . Are a lot of investors interested in, i think in general Late Stage Companies are based on future cash flows. In the early stages, you can be based on potential, but later stages, it is about cash flows. I think one of the things investors tend to like about us is one, there is not some hypothetical modernization needs to take place. It is an existing business and we have companies that start on strike and growth there. Ipe and grow there. Not these companies scrambling for shares of the pie. Today, 5 of Consumer Spending happens online on a global basis. It is a very large and growing market. Despite the fact that we would like to think we are a significant player, were still a small fraction of the overall pie. And in terms of product innovation, when you talk about talk to these businesses, it is the startup stack, it is the tools, and we think there is a huge amount of growth in terms of what weakened build. If we are successful in that, it is not just capturing a fraction of those companies, it is helping more Companies Get started and scale internationally. Caroline great to have you in the studio. We hope to do it again. Think you so much for your time. Coming up, dyson is known for vacuums, but could they be expanding their ambitions . This is bloomberg. Caroline there could be a major competitor coming into teslas rearview mirror. Dyson, known for making breakthrough Consumer Products come is possibly getting into the electric car business. Alex webb points me with more. They hired teslas excommunications chief youd chief. Fuel to the fire that they have been looking at car stuff. We had documents that showed that the government was subsidizing your business efforts to build an electric car. This guy is one of the Key Communications people at tesla that helped launch them into the automotive industry. Why with a higher a guy like that and was they wanted to do something similar . Caroline it also speaks to the fact that they want more dominance in Silicon Valley and the united states. We know dyson very well. We know the entrepreneur stands for visionary. K, it is in a lot of households. They have the vacuum, the air purifier. You will find the products in most households in uk. Caroline very big in asia, as well. Where could they be looking in terms of the cars . Do we know how far along they are . Alex not really. We know they are an electric car but we dont know about the autonomous element. The winds have shifted slightly, more aboutis autonomous driving to the Electric Park is often done by suppliers and put together by the carmaker. Whether dyson is doing something autonomous is the interesting question. Caroline think we will get any pinches . Nt pensions big deal in the u. K. , but it is not a huge company. Compare them to the hundreds of billions of dollars that apple makes, it pales in comparison. Because it is privately held, it doesnt have to answer to shareholders. They can think slightly differently in terms of innovation. Alex webb with bloomberg technology. That does it for this edition of bloomberg technology. Will be with the World Economic forum in davos. This is bloomberg. Announcer from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Charlie ash carter is here. He is the outgoing secretary of defense. President obama appointed him in december of 2014. It was a capstone for eight decadeslong career at the pentagon. 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