At the asia society. Also, Andrew Revkin of the new york times. Also laurent lamothe. Tell us about the area that has been in nepal that has been affected and what is the status as much as you know from the people there . Sanjeev the epicenter is a little northwest of kathmandu. Kathmandu is one of the most densely populated urban areas. Had it been kathmandu my the epicenter been kathmandu, you would see thousands and thousands more deaths. We are still actually assessing the level of damage in those areas those districts because we are accounting for the debts in those villages. It is about 50some kilometers west of kathmandu. As you said earlier, charlie over about 4000 deaths so far. 8000 injured and people are still sleeping outside. Charlie what could the death toll rise to . What are the worst expectations . Sanjeev probably double the number but still, the rescue, the recovery is going down in different parts of nepal. In the next two days, we will definitely see the number go out. Significantly. Charlie what about aid coming in . Sanjeev there is a lot of aid coming in, pouring in from china and the u. S. , israel, and other countries. My fear is there has to be a better coordination. I hope there is better coordination on the aid that is pouring in so that it goes to the right places. They goes to the right places, and it is optimally effective. Charlie is evacuation might uncover those [indiscernible] sanjeev we have to remember the next phase, the danger of widespread diseases that might come about. That is something that needs to be careful. Charlie laurent you can speak to that. Tell us what haitis experience was after the earthquake that hit your country. Laurent lamothe the country was completely in shock and certainly one of the big challenges that we had also was the coordination of aid. We had several thousand helping we had several governments helping. One what is important to remember and focus on, you have leadership and response, for the government to lead this effort [inaudible] and coordinate the aid coming in. I know it is challenging and many people want to respond and want to do it immediately, but it is important that the government of the country is allowed to lead the coordination, the coordination effort. We have responded so far. It is important for the International Community to support the country by promising the aid and whatever they promise should be continued and transparent and very [indiscernible] because one of the things that happened in haiti, we were promised 9 billion, but we made all the reconstruction and redevelopment plans taste on based on revenue that we would get from the conference and well he had 48 , we only had 80 percent 48 . Half of it. So this should be correct this time. Charlie talk about the science and why this is an area that is prone to this kind of thing. Andrew the subcontinent of india is ramming into asia. It has been for millions of years. The power of that is what lifted up the himalayas. Just an extraordinaire he amount of energy there and against pentup and periodically released. There are false and the earth that are more predictable than others. Science is still unfolding but at the same time, what has happened in places like all along the himalayan front rage not just the mountains but cities like delhi have sprouted to be megacities. Kathmandu i was just there recently. It is not a megacity yet but you have this inrush of people where the tectonic history has become more apparent to scientists. It is happening the development is happening in fast motion even though you have these slowmotion forces. It is not editable to the point where you can say it will be next year. The political priority is always other things. You get this kind of real it is a horrifying thing. The scientists i talked to have this wrenching sense of inevitability. It haunts them. I wrote about that in the blog. You do what you can through education and working with officials to get some capacity to not just responding to the event but making sure that the next one at least, you are reducing the risk ahead of time. The u. N. Has a big effort along these lines as well. Sanjeev the last time was 1988, we had a six point some Richter Scale earthquake. This was east of kathmandu and we had 1000 deaths at that time. This one because it is so shallow so shallow and that is why you see the massive death and station devastation and loss of life. Charlie how many people were killed in haiti . Laurent [indiscernible] at half a million injured. The number one thing that we learned is to bring the country back to normal and avoid by all costs the tent camps. In doing boat doing so, providing centers to residents that are in dire need of help to respond quickly and evacuate people to other cities, but to avoid the tent camps. After the earthquake, we had about 1. 5 Million People in tent camps that represented 50 of the residents of portauprince. That was a huge challenge after and it took us four years to solve that problem and it took us over 100 million in cost. It is important for the 30s and First Responders authorities and First Responders to apply a strategy, to avoid the people staying in tents too long. Charlie do you have any warning that this is coming . Andrew the earth is accompanied it system. You do know overall, you do know, whether it is istanbul or haiti where there is another one, that was not a onetime event. It has probably raise the odds in haiti for the next session section close to order prints to fail. For my piece today in the times , there is a section that says this is quite probably at least slightly tipped the odds of a bigger one happening. But again, the scientists who told me this thing said we cannot say of this is tomorrow or next week or 20 years from now. That is why one thing that is important in the paul, i am sure you agree, this is not the big one, for one thing. For kathmandu as you heard this was a little further away. Sometimes you feel like you are over it am a we did ok. The death toll is much less than people predicted. There was talk about over 100,000 fidelitys. Charlie 100,000 fatalities. Charlie what does this mean for the economy . Sanjeev it will set the country back definitely. One good thing that will come out of this, we have had this very fractious political situation. We still do not have a constitution. The election was we are still looking for a new constitution. What people are hoping is in light of this calamity, that the Political Parties will come together and [inaudible] efforts and hopefully that will keep the country in the right direction, politically and socially. It is a very fractious political situation. A lot of talk about federalism that is going on. You have not been able to move it in the right direction. So that is our hope. Charlie back to haiti. When the attention goes away does aid go away . Laurent lamothe absolutely. That is one of the situations we have to do with, when the cameras are off, the funding dries out and the interest in the country dies off. The lesson that we have learned is [indiscernible] work with the International Partners and execute the plan that we control in terms of rebuilding the country. That is the hardest part in the biggest challenge is [indiscernible] the donors lose interest and do not necessarily keep the funding going, which significantly hurts the country in the long run. Charlie thank you. Laurent, thank you for joining us. Laurent thank you. Charlie we conclude this evening with Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the nfl. Im going to talk about two things. One, this idea of the nfl having to have a different standard than Law Enforcement. So youre not waiting for decision by Law Enforcement. About how you will look at cases of personal abuse. Roger we have a personal conduct clause and you can violate our policy but not violate the law because we do have a higher standard. We also do not have to prove it in a court of law. So, if we believe that an act is more likely to have happened and violates our personal conduct policy then we can subject that individual to discipline and that is something we think is part of having a higher standard in the nfl. People expect more from the nfl. They expect the cap the people commissioners, the owners, the players, they expect a very higher level of standard and what we do not hit that, there are consequences for that. Charlie has this experience reminded you of the fact that through adversity, through challenging times where there are people who suffered, you might learn things that might make your institution stronger than if it had not gone through . Roger yes. You also always want to avoid that if you can. Charlie it is not fun. Roger it is never fun. You have to say what are the right things to do Going Forward and we always try to do that. When you do not hit that mark it just remind you that you have to work harder and you have to reach higher. Charlie how did you handle this idea of people who thought that tape of ray rice had to be somehow, maybe you had seen it even though you said you had not. Someone else had seen it. Maybe they had not. Maybe it was lying around. At that time, there were a lot of people who said there is no way that the nfl would not have its hands on the tape. Roger the best way of doing that was going and getting someone whose integrity was unquestioned, who was independent, and giving them full ability to look into whatever they wanted to look into. Phonorecord, phone records texts, emails anything to help them determine that was the case. What the director found his we did not have a tape. We did not see the tape. Either one of those issues. That was something we needed to able to go to to make sure that our [indiscernible] knew, that our general public knew that was not the case. I believe the director did that in a way that is beyond reproach. Charlie his conclusion was there was no tape. Roger that there was no tape here. Roger goodell that there was no tape here. Charlie is your mission to make sure that the nfl knows more about the issue than anybody and is doing more . Roger we want to do more. We will never know more than the medical world. What we want to do we want research to be done, so that we know what the facts are, and we can do the best we possibly can to protect our players when they are playing and every other generation of players in all sports. Charlie what is the responsibility of those who may have already suffered and no longer live . Roger we have programs that are designed for that. We have any players that may have suffered injuries, we have programs that we hope will be responsive to getting them the kind of care a need. Whether it was caused by football or not. A lot of times you cannot really determine causation. That is one of the things that judge brodie said in her decision. That causation was not clear here. There are other legal defenses. What we wanted to do was write and right and get Resources Available to families that are going through difficult times, and that is what we have done. Charlie Roger Goodell has been commissioner of the nfl since 2006. Revenues have grown more than 60 to roughly 10 billion per year. 2014 was a trying year for the nfl. A series of offfield incidents involving player violence sparked a national hour. He apologized for not doing more about ray rice. The nfl responded by revamping its player conduct policy and adding staff to handle discipline issues. Safety on the field has been a priority. If efforts have been made to compensate former players. I spoke with Roger Goodell at the nfl office in manhattan. You have the job that you always wanted. You have a job that many people consider the best job in the world. Especially if they are football fans. But it has been a tough year since july. What have you learned for yourself . For this league that is important for all of us to know . Roger it has been a tough year in many ways. We responded in a very positive way. The changes we have made for the personal conduct policy personnel that are around us that help us make it or decisions. And also, to get away from a complete reliance on Law Enforcement specifically to Domestic Violence issues, Sexual Assault issues. Charlie meaning initiate your own investigations . Roger not only initiating but carrying it through. Not in conflict with the criminal Justice System, but there are information and facts that we want to know that are going to be important to us in applying our standard and what we did in our personal conduct policy is that that policy fourth to make sure that people understood exactly what the standards were but also the process. We have seen that play out where the process allows us to get better facts, better information which will lead to a better decision. Including having better people around us, people to give you perspective. That is something that we always knew the nfl has held to a high standard, that we embrace that we except that, and we have to do better. And on we do not reach the bar we are going to have to do better in the future to my and that is what we are committed to doing. Charlie is there any other lesson for you yourself understanding the challenge you faced, understanding the role you had to play . Roger anytime you are making decisions you want to get that perspective. You have the people who may disagree, who can bring a different perspective, understand complex issues and help you make better decisions Going Forward. That is something that we are committed to, i am committed to. As an individual, adversity that helps to grow and learn and that is what we always want to do is keep learning. You want to learn about your self but also your organization. Charlie do you ask yourself now, i wish i had no known more about this, i wish i had more sensitivity to this . Roger you want to have a better understanding. I had very limited exposure from to Domestic Violence certainly from a personal standpoint. That is something i now understand. Charlie what took you what did it take to make you understand . Roger i have been to the shelters, to the national hotline. You speak with survivors and advocates and you understand better the complexity of this issue. When we were down at hotline last fall, i got a much deeper understanding of this when you hear fear that these advocates will tell you that victims are feeling, the sense of helplessness that all strikes you very personally. As a father of twin girls, this is something you do not want anything to go through. We are now in a better position to be able to deal with that in a responsible fashion. And i believe that our policies are going to have an impact well beyond on football. They will have an impact charlie you want to set a standard. Roger we want to take care of ourselves and we want to do this right. We believe we are setting the standards. Charlie how do you make sure that it is real, it is it is tough, and this league wants to prove to its fans and earn their trust, but prove and impress the Larger Community that you are talking about to take this seriously. This is not just about words. Roger two things. Youre judged on your actions, ultimately. How you do it. We have engaged experts that i think anybody in the Broader Community would say these people bring experience, wisdom knowledge that will help us make better decisions Going Forward. They are experts in their field. The best of the best and we have seen that behind lisa [inaudible] and todd jones who brings a wealth of knowledge in the kernel just met criminal Justice System. These are the kinds of people that will help us make it or decisions, make sure our policies are kept up to speed. But the complexity of some of these areas are something that we really truly did not understand how complex they were. And how much we had to do to really deal with these things effectively. Charlie why do you think you did not understand . Roger the real Justice System could do with this and we would respond based on what they find. What we found is you cannot rely solely on the criminal Justice System. Youre going to have to go out and get your own facts and set your own standards and apply them to your standard. Not through a kernel justice standard. They have certain reasons why they do certain things. Certain reasons why they will share information and not others. We have to rely on ourselves. Charlie if you look at the conversation with mike colleague with my colleague after seeing the investigation, would you have answered anything differently because you know more today . Roger i do not remember the detail interview in detail. I think what we found was and we found the most reliable information was from Law Enforcement and we did not want to conflict with what they were doing. Charlie you had not seen the tape. Roger we had not seen the tape which was demonstrated in the mueller report. It is clear what we said factually, what we would like to have been is in a position where we had a better policy. We have better people and we could have gotten to a conclusion based on more facts initially as opposed to at a later date. Charlie how do you determine punishment . Roger it is something that we spend a great ill of time on. Based on the actual incident. What we would call aggravating factors that in Domestic Violence, as an example, where children are involved where there is any type of weapons involved, strike elation or any kind of choking involved, those are all fat tears. Factors. It is called escalation. What happens is those have a tendency to indicate anything something more serious might happen even though the image initial incident could be serious. It starts as may be an Emotional Abuse and it escalates. Charlie does anything you know tell you this is unique to football or this is a societal issue that comes to focus in professional football because of the nature of the attention . Roger i would say exactly the opposite, charlie. This is what we heard from our experts. This is a societal problem. It is happening at every realm, whether it is sports are in the corporate world or any other world around the globe. These are issues that are happening. They are being brought out into the open. And that is something that is good. It is normalizing the conversation and that is something we think is good ultimately for this type of an issue because we as a society can deal with these issues more effectively. Charlie let me talk about some of the cases. Ray rice, where is he today . Roger [inaudible] charlie you believe a team will sign him . Roger that is up to the team. Charlie greg hardy. You announced the suspension for 10 games without pay. How do you decide, how do you measure appropriate . Roger it is based on your policies. It is based on the fact that you have to gather information that will support a decision for suspending a player for any number of games or an Office Employee or anyone in the nfl. We are all subject to the same policy. You have to get the facts. We have gotten more facts in our most recent cases because we have lisa [inaudible] investigating independently. We also have outside experts that are helping us identify the information as pertinent and allow us to make it or decisions Going Forward. That is what we ultimately need are the facts and we can apply our policy. If you violate our policy youre subject to discipline. That could be in the form of suspension. That could be in the form of a fine. If there is a second offense of a we would consider a violent crime, at least [inaudible] we have been clear with all personnel about that. Charlie all players know that, they have been instructed, they have been told that by their individual teams. Charlie roger one of the issues is there is a great deal of focus, punishment and discipline. One of the things we focus on his education. How do we prevent these incidents from occurring . Part of that is our educational process in making sure that people understand what is expected of them. If they need assistance, here is where to go and get assistance on a local basis, on a confidential basis, and if you need additional help including counseling, we will provide that. Charlie adrian peterson. Roger adrian has been reinstated. He has conditions that are in post on that and he is a member of the minnesota vikings. Charlie what was the dialogue like with your owners during this period . In some cases, youre talking about highly regarded players. They lose the service, they lose some possibilities for how that team will do. What was the quality and the nature of the conversation of their advice to you during all of this . Roger i think our owners understand that the personal conduct policy is important for us. Our reputation, the way we things do things is important. Whether it affects your team or not. We want to hold to standards of the nfl. I never had any pressure from any owners about anyway impacting on the suspension. Charlie they understood that consequences. This was a very trying time for the nfl. Roger they were incredibly supportive. They knew we were doing the right things. The things that we were doing were working. But also, the way that we were leading toward a solution, of a new policy with the right personnel, that is where we had to go. And our owners were very supportive and they believe we are heading in the right direction. Charlie youre not waiting for someone to report a terrible personal abuse incident. You are very eager to make sure that it is not going on even though it has not been reported. Roger some of that goes to the education and preventing it from happening. When an incident occurs, you are obligated as a club or any personnel to report that. There is an ongoing obligation to do that. It is not just some elite and reporting incident. If you get any information at any point in time, it needs to be reported so we can follow that and make sure that we have all the fact on the case. Charlie where are we with respect to concussions today . Roger we have made significant changes to the game at the nfl level which impacts at all levels of the game. We have had a 25 reduction in concussions this last season. That continues a threeyear trend which is about 35 . I think a lot of that is because there is more awareness. There are better processes in place with our medical personnel to identify the injury. But we are preventing these injuries through equipment. We saw a significant reduction in hits to the head. In this room right here, we spend a lot of time evaluating those hits. The right time kind of techniques that players should use and coaches should coach so these injuries do not occur in the first place. This changes have been very effective as supplied by the data. Charlie which ones have been the most effective . Roger hits to the head. The role changes rule changes are when a player is defenseless, we do not allow a player to be struck in the head. Either his shoulder or his head. Not just headtohead contact. When a shoulder a player is defenseless, we do not allow [indiscernible] and that has reduced injuries certainly concussions, as proven by the data. For not only the player being struck but also the player striking the other player. So these are changes where our players, our coaches have adapted. Not just at the nfl but all levels of football. Charlie has the game suffered were you have to be much safer and you may contact a bit different . Roger i do not think so. We have proven that. The game is better and safer than ever and that is because our roles work. Charlie it is not mean it is less exciting. Roger it does not and i think we have proven that. Our game has never been more exciting. It has never been more competitive and it has not been more safer. We are getting back to the fundamentals of the game. We are using the right techniques. We have medical professionals that are on the sidelines, up in the box identifying when a hit occurs that someone needs to be evaluated. We are implementing a new role called the medical timeout. If someone does not see that a player was struck aggressively and struggling potentially on the field, either wobbly or it looks like the individual is in distress, we will stop the game and we will have medical personnel get them to the sideline and make them sure they are properly evaluated medically. Charlie what are you doing in terms of where the kickoff is, where the extra point is, all of [inaudible] roger we moved the kickoff 10 years ago. We have been aggressive in rule changes that have had a very positive impact on the game. Either techniques or plays where we see a higher frequency of injury like a kickoff. We have taken those out or limited that so it has had a dramatic impact not just on concussions but all kinds of injuries. Our focus is not just on the 10th concussion. It is on all types of injuries. Charlie when a player chooses not to continue his career because he is frankly worried about it come even though there is medical evidence he is suffering from any kind of impact, does that affect the conversation at the league among different teams, does it cause players to rethink the impact of the game on their health . Roger i think all players come into it would with a sense they have a limited career. They are balancing what they want to do personally, from professionally, they are making decisions for personal reasons and they should. What we want them to do is make informed decisions off of the best science, the best medical information, and i would tell you that i think our players are getting the best medical care anywhere in the world. Have experts to and second opinions. They will be in the best decision to make those decisions but they will be in a position to make better decisions about whether it is the right time to transition to another career and we have done that with our player engagement efforts, education to help our players not just be successful on the field but more important, off the field. Charlie you heard the president said say if i had a son, i might consider him not having him play football. What was his your response . Roger playing youth sports is something that is important for all of us. I played and i love it loved it. I would not give up a single day of football. In youth sports, particularly football, it is safer for all of us. We know more. When i was a kid, we could not take a water break. If you took a water break you were soft. That is not the way it is anymore. It is important to be properly hydrated. It is important to wear your quitman properly. It is important when you have a concussion or you do not feel right to get medical attention. That is good for the sport. That is good for the kids. The nfl is leading the way on this. Charlie how would you appraise the settlement that was made . Roger we thought it was important the players may need assistance or their families as soon as possible rather than litigating this for years and years. We have a fund that is available based on need. This is something that the judge said in her there were several questions about causation, about the preemption motion and the legal arguments and this was a very difficult case to prove. I think it is the right thing for all of us to take a breath. Charlie as you know, you read commentary. Some thought was it was in the end, it should have been larger. Roger you have to start with effects on that. We had a cap system initially. The judge encouraged us to take the cap off. There is not a particular dollar amount on the fund right now. This fund is there for several years, several decades and for players to get it and families to get it, if they have Neurological Disorders of some kind. This is something we have done we think is responsible. We think it is the right thing for players and their families and we are proud of the relationship to my and if you look at the number of offsets it was less than 1 . That number is going down dramatically. What we have here i think is a judge who understood that the challenges of this legally, and frankly, whether the Research Indicates the types of things that people were charging. There were real challenges in that and we felt this was the right thing to do for our players and their families. Charlie is any part of you worried that this is a larger problem than we now recognize . Roger that is why we are investing in research. We invested 30 million with the national. Half of that is going to cpe so it can be studied utterly by scientists, by medical professionals. We think the facts will be good for us and we look for those facts so we can do the right things in the game, and the research, and frankly, to making sure we do Everything Possible to make our game safer. Charlie do you need one cazar as some suggest to run this, you have lease on board, lisa on board and todd jones. Roger we have people with great expertise. I do not think the answer is handing it off to one czar. All of us will have to contribute to making decisions Going Forward. We all have a shared responsibility in this. Charlie how do you characterize the question about the ball and the patriots and whether it was the player or not . What is your term for that . Roger our term for that is simply were there in anyway footballs that were manipulated in any way during the game that would violate our roles . Rules . There is not a timeframe. Charlie why is this hard . It is one game, one ball. Roger one of the things he would be asked to look for, it was not just one game. Charlie is there suspicion there is more than one game . Roger we are properly evaluating whether there was a violation of the rules. The most important thing here is was there a violation of the rules and how did that occur . Charlie when do you expect the report . Roger the indications are that he has finished the interview section and he will be issuing his report soon. Charlie some people in the patriots think it is unfair. Roger what is unfair, the report . They have not seen it yet. Charlie the accusation. Roger it will come out in the report. We have not made a judgment one way or the other about whether there is a violation of the rule s he there are factsr here thate need. To be evaluated and they will be evaluated. There are facts here that need to be evaluated and they will be evaluated. And make sheet sure that things were done fairly. What we have done is made the game safer for players and players at all levels and i think in all sports. I think the awareness, the prevention that we put in place to stop injuries from occurring or at least limit the injuries are all things that will benefit our game, our players for future generations, and i think that is something we would be very proud of. There are other things we proud of also. Charlie what is the future of the nfl . Roger very bright. I said to our owners that we have a Great Foundation here to build on. We have to mend a success for you but we also tremendous success. But we also have our challenge. The Biggest Issue we have to address is we cannot be complacent. We cannot be arrogant about it. We have to go and deal with our challenges and fix them. Charlie the l. A. Franchise. Will there be a team and alley by a certain date . Roger we are not going to require it by a certain date. It is important for us to do it right if we are going to do it. The stadium is it a big component in that. We have to have a stadium that will compete in that market where there are certainly high standards. Charlie there has not been a team in l. A. Since what what . Roger 2008. That is one of our challenges. We want to be back in los angeles. We cannot do it where we are not successful longterm. Charlie you have two stadiums proposed. Roger we have both proposed and what we need is success in the long term. That has not occurred in the los angeles market for several decades. The coliseum was not working for the team longterm. The teams left. Now we are talking about stadiums that i think have all the elements of being successful for the fans, for the teams, and the community. Charlie when will that happen when do expect to see this . Roger when we get there. There is a great deal of progress. It is the first time we have had two stadiums that are entitled that means they can be built. And an evaluation for the communities and the nfl to see which one of these will work. Charlie it will be one of two proposed stadiums. Roger it will be one. We have challenges in the current market. We have an obligation to those communities to make sure we have done everything to make the teams successful in the current market. In san diego, oakland, or st. Louis. Charlie three teams that are considering moving to l. A. Roger we would like to know if a stadium can be built there and will the team be successful longterm . It is one of when you look at our challenges Going Forward, the media world is changing so dramatically. We see it all around us, literally. Charlie i asked you where the best place would be to watch the super bowl and you said right here. Roger our broadcast partners do an incredible job of showing the game that i think is great experience on television, but it is an even better experience in the stadium. When you have 75,000 or 80,000 people behind you, you bring a group behind the team, there is no better experience. You and i have enjoyed that together and it is incredible. We want to have people experience that in the stadium but we also want them to have a great experience at home or their mobile device or anyway they want to engage football. That is our job. We have to make it a better experience for them. Charlie that means Television Revenues will go up. Roger we will keep the quality of the game and experience and deliver values to our partner. Charlie what about overseas . Roger we think our game has a tremendous potential globally. We have focused a great deal of attention on canada and mexico but we have been successful in the u. K. As you have mentioned. We have a series of regular season games in london. They have been incredibly successful. We sold out every one of them. We played three games last year and we will play three games this year. There is a tremendous fan base and Growth Potential for us there and we will continue to play games, we will continue to be active. Charlie how many nights . You added thursday night on cbs. Roger i am glad you put that in. Charlie it is good for cbs and the nfl. How many nights of football should we have . Roger it has not only good been good for cbs and the nfl, has been good for fans. Our fans have rallied around it. Theyre watching football on thursday night in record numbers in part because of our partner cbs but they want to see more football. I do not see us playing any other night of the week. We do not play on fridays and saturdays out of respect for high school and College Football. We do not do that until they are done. Late in the season. This is something charlie sunday night . Roger sunday night, monday night. And those nights when College Football is done. You have competitive issues in there. I also think one of the things you always try to do is meet the demand of our fans that you do not want to class cross that line. You do not want to get to the point where you saturated the interest in the game. Charlie you said you always want them wanting more. Roger you always want them wanting more. We are about hope. We are about creating hope for our hands fans. You want to make sure they come in every season without hope and second, you always want them to want more and to be able to experience football in different ways. Charlie were there any plays in which even after looking at instant replay, the wrong decision was made . Last season. Roger when you look at this and you see all the rules, when we have a play that comes up, you can see the angles. Charlie every one of these screens represents a camera . Roger what you have here is different stations so there is four views that any individual is watching and you can put it up on the big screen behind be. We have several of our officiating members at in the room at the time and they will watch it here. They will make a determination of whether it is the right call. A lot of times what we get our people that do not like the rural rule. Charlie after the controversies you have had to deal with do you feel like you have regained or done what you have to do to meet the challenge of fans who might have a gun to lose some sense begun to lose some sense of how football pro football was being handled . Roger at the end of the day it is how you do things. Charlie the process . Roger the outcome. Do we the standards. Do we make decisions that our fans are proud of . They understand they are doing they are being done with the highest level of integrity. Do our games stay strong . Do we do Everything Possible to make our players safe at all levels of football . Do we make the experience better for our fans . How do we do that . All those things go into is it worth my time as a fan to invest in football, whether it is my familys time, my time, my money, my resources, the jerseys that i wear, theyll want to be part of proud of their they all want to be proud of their affiliation. Anytime you go through adversity, that is part of the challenge. Charlie you did not say to yourself and you said you questioned decisions and awareness of certain issues. Roger you have to look at get all your decisions and not be afraid to reevaluate those. When we had the decision last summer with ray rice, the Domestic Violence case, we brought experts in an august immediately after the decision knowing we have to do this differently. We have to evaluate our policy we about reevaluate our policy and implement a new policy. We were on our way towards doing that. These are things that are expected of us, to learn from the mistakes, do better and i am at the head of that list. I am responsible for what goes on here, good, bad, or indifferent, i have to make sure i am doing everything i can to be the best commissioner i can. Charlie are you making the nfl the best you can . Roger i could not be more optimistic about the nfl but i also could not be prouder of the things we are doing in making this game a better game and a safer game and something that fans will be part proud of following. Charlie you could almost say that for all the pain and that was suffered by individuals medical, whether it is personal violations, you learn from it in a way that will make you strong. Roger i believe in that. I believe in adversity. Charlie adversity sometimes makes you better. Roger it makes you stronger if you evaluate and youre not afraid of learning. We are not afraid of learning as an organization. We are not afraid of learning as individuals. We can all get dinner and that is what we talk about get better and that is what we talk about. It means all of us have to reach for a higher level. That is what we are going to do. Charlie there is no doubt in your mind that the Players Association believes that as well . That we have to make everything better. Roger i do believe that and i do believe the Players Association wants that also. The best majority of our players are Outstanding Young man. They do incredible things in their communities with their families. Something i am incredibly proud of and that is what drives me. You might have seen thomas davis, he is our nfl man of the year. He issued a challenge to all of us. His fellow players and everyone in the nfl. Lets get people the right things to talk about, lets do the right things, lets go out and make a difference. That is something i take seriously and it was great that thomas said that, articulated that in his own words and we use that at our used that at our annual meeting. Roger charlie a pleasure to have your. Roger my pleasure to be here. spect to enron, we dont need any juice to you should have heard jeb bush in puerto rico. On the show tonight, the supreme court. Curfew goes back into effect in baltimore. Conditions remain so fraught that tomorrows baseball game will be played at camden yards with no fans present your at a white house press