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I welcome cigarette with me Tim Cooper this week is it the beginning of the end for Donald Trump today the U.S. President admitted providing hush money for 2 women who claim they had affairs with him but he's denied breaking campaign finance laws is formal lawyer former lawyer Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty to breaking election rules over the deals now Mr Cohen may be willing to share information with Robert Miller's investigation into claims of collusion between the Trump election campaign and Russia I'm joined by Scott Lucas professor of American studies at the University of Birmingham and in the studio with me Christopher Lee the P.F.B. Yes defense analyst 1st of all Scott Lukas welcome good afternoon how the events this week changed things for Mr Trump will he go down for this do you think. This is the latest layer on about 7 levels of political and personal trouble for Trump so on the one hand given all that's already happened I don't expect him to depart within the next few days or maybe in the next few months from the White House but I think it is fair to say that the nature of the revelations from Michael Cohen specifically for the 1st time someone saying under court that Donald Trump is directly involved in criminal activity that combined with the expanding information in the truck Russian inquiry led by Special Counsel Robert Moore if this is not the beginning of the end for Trump It is definitely into the beginning and I expect by this time next year he may be out of office yelling season analogy and perhaps it's like Russian dolls isn't it where opening know the lay and getting down and down and down with these allegations coming out on week one about the future of him has been a black legal week but he does what he wants quite frankly and would you bet against him going for a 2nd term and getting it. Well certainly Trump in his hash tag winning mind would always say that he's going for a 2nd term and of course will win it because you know he never loses but of course that in a broader sense this is just the line that trumpet his defenders put out to try to sweep away not only all the political issues that are here but the legal issues and I think we really need to look at 2 things here that sort of reshape the future I think the 1st is that despite Trump maybe having a 30 percent base of Americans who support him come hell or highwater if the November elections go against the Republican Party. Not just if the Democrats win a majority in both houses of the U.S. Congress but if the G.O.P. Does very badly in polling then I think some Republicans may start to think do we really want to tie ourselves to this guy given in fact that things will probably only go downhill from there and secondly it's just the extent of the legal issue you know you can talk about opinion polls you can even talk about what happens in an election but if Robert Mueller comes out early next year with a full suite of evidence that shows that Trump is in it his advisors were engaged in a conspiracy with a foreign power namely Russia to influence the 2016 U.S. Election that is a transgression on such a scale that I don't think Trump can simply say I'm going to my base chant lock her up with respect to Hillary Clinton rather than to about himself and expect to sort of scope. Some guidance here and if let's say for a moment go. The way you'll suggesting he could. Does he 1st have to go to the House Judiciary Committee. And get them on board and given what may happen in November presumably the house will be stronger and the Democratically be stronger then he has to theory I suppose get 66 percent authority from the Senate now that is. Me using sort of political track isn't it so maybe. It's all ready to go already quite possible that he could the could be brought down especially by what the if F.B.I. May bring forward to even to the Supreme Court with a subpoena maybe it's just too much to get rid of Donald Trump who simply stands there and appeals to his voters really good question but I think the scenario plays out in a slightly different way and that is. Robert Miller's investigation is an independent investigation so there's no House committee that can stand in the way of it that's why the G.O.P. Has been unable to curb him despite Trump's anger so far so if more comes forward next year let's say that it is pretty much. A convincing case that the Trump campaign and the president knew the Russians were going to interfere in the election and they at least aided and abetted that then I think the option is that someone goes to trump. Family member or close advisor and says what Mr President you really have 2 options here one is that you can tough this amount but the day after you finish your term in office you will be facing criminal charges possibly a prison term or like Richard Nixon in 1974 Watergate you can resign now hand over get yourself pardoned and avoid the humiliation In other words you can step aside at this point or you can face the music later what do you do and I think even someone as let's be honest stubbornness Trump may give way at the result and he's got a businessman and you know makes decisions based on probability of success I suppose just finally in briefly on this one Scott if I may Where will viewing this from the selfing included why does it matter to us so much. Well of course America's great influence in the world and in terms not only of the domestic scandal but also in terms of its foreign policy the Trump administration to say the least has been chaotic and unpredictable and at times I would argue quite downright damaging in terms of international affairs including to its own alliances but I think beyond that we're talking about a question responsibility of power and when you have a leader of a country who in my opinion insults his opponents tells according to fact check or almost 4500 lives in 18 months and on top of that may believe that he is so immune from accountability that he can break the law and get away from it tearing down his own agencies in the process that type of poison doesn't just stay within the United States it does affect other countries in the way that we consider our relationship to our politicians even in the U.K. In other words Donald Trump a study nominally and example which I think is is detrimental for the U.S. It's an example which is detrimental for those countries beyond America thank you very much indeed Professor Scott Lukas a pleasure talking to see you as ever Professor Scully because that oppressive American Studies at the University of Birmingham Meanwhile the new foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt's been in Washington he made a speech at the U.S. Institute of Peace where he spoke of challenges to global democracy from Russia China extremists and also the fraying of domestic says Bolt full democratic systems in our own countries he went on to say how the world should be dealing with these challenges highlighting the importance of alliance those who don't share the values need to know that there will always be a serious price to pay if red lines across to where the territory incursions the use of banned weapons or increasingly cyber attacks a part of that credibility comes from immunity. We showed that this year with a strong united response from $28.00 allies to the use of chemical weapons in Seoul sprit. $153.00 Russian intelligence officials were expelled including 60 who were moved by the United States more than any other country and the U.S. Has since gone further by announcing sanctions combined with the decisive U.S. Military response to a sad use of chemical weapons in Duma in April joined by Britain and France we can see that the red lines on chemical weapon use a started to reconvene credibility. And today the United Kingdom asks its allies to go further by calling on the European Union to ensure its sanctions against Russia are comprehensive and that we truly stand shoulder to shoulder with the U.S. That means calling out and responding to transgressions with one voice wherever and whenever they're from the streets of Seoul sprit. To the heart of Crimea Chris really listening to that with me in the sitrep studio that was Mr Hunt's 1st speech as Foreign Secretary your thoughts on it well if the last job I did in the Navy was to work for his father who is the smart is happening to their work for and listening to that it's the same sort of speech that I had twice. 2 months in Brussels and apart from cyber which we didn't think much about the time it was this idea that quietly delivered. Be fair to everybody told people who the enemy is and if you tell people who the enemy is they don't know why the spending all this money but also it brings you together as the song force and it was the solemn force that his father used to talk about that was exactly that if you do that people will listen to you it struck me in a number of ways as well it was very solemn It was a complete counterpoint to the previous incumbent in the post of course and it also mirrored what the delivery style but in tone the words we've been hearing from Gavin Williamson the defense secretary Yeah it's almost as if you joined the Navy. But it's also true one of his father's important things that he was sink fleet from and therefore he has a nature it was a NATO commander as well but they wanted him to go to Brussels as chair of the military committee and if he has to do so and he said that solemn way of doing things you do it quietly but it's not done by me to happen it should be done by the farm sector and today or last week it was done by the foreign secretary some interesting isn't it how things continue on evolve and turn around through the generations. To come on the program today Queen Elizabeth said sale to make the F. $35.00 a little go to plan that 1st day you will get a standing of how the jet and the ship work together. Now former soldiers who served in Northern Ireland to voice their concerns about so-called legacy investigations at a public meeting Sean aggressed check was that for Sit Rep Sean who called this meeting and what was it for well Tim at the moment the government is in the middle of a public consultation on the legacy of the troubles and forming plans to look at the cases of around $700.00 deaths related to the conflict now veterans he served during that time asked for the meeting at Fisher was agreed to come to some Cofield town hall in the West Midlands to address them as part of the actual consulate. Process itself was a bit of a mutual moment when the officials could take down the veterans' concerns and the veterans could listen to what they have to they were saying as well say 30 people attended among the 77 year old Dennis Hutchings a former. Major in the life guards he served in Northern Ireland during the troubles and he is facing prosecution he denies challenges of attempted murder and attempted grievous bodily harm with intent relating to the killing of John Patrick coming in in 1984 he is one of a number of veterans who served during this period who is facing prosecution and I asked him what the mood is like amongst veterans right now. And the organizer of the meeting himself representing the veterans a clear message specifically for the prime minister. Yes he did he was one of the full this meeting you might be wondering why it happened in the West Midlands that was simply I think a location chosen because it was central So Allan Barry is the co-founder of the group Justice for Northern Ireland veterans he decided to talk about the any other female prime minister we've had in the U.K. As an example whilst trying to get his message across. In the response well they've put out a statement read it for you I've got it here it says this government will always salute the heroism of forces and police officers and we must never forget our debt of gratitude that we have them without their contribution and sacrifice that would have been no peace process in Northern Ireland that is why it is so important that their voices heard in this consultation everyone acknowledge. It is that the current system isn't working well for everyone and we are consulting on the best way to move forward and create a fair balanced and proportionate system for addressing the legacy of the troubles now this is a hugely emotive subject has been going on for Norfleet a long time but what about the legal standpoint from experts on the legality of this well Tim Some people might be asking the question has the spirit of the law lost its way by going after veterans when I already operatives received an amnesty that's a question we put to a lawyer and broadcaster Joshua Rosenberg I think the spirit of English. That people commit criminal offense. By the courts I don't think. For statutes of limitations in criminal cases or something. You know a law. Would just be done in the traditional way and was broken asked a legal affairs expert. What more can you tell us about the government's consultation of this issue well it outlines plans for an historical Investigations Unit which would have a caseload we think of about $7500.00 Troubles related deaths in a 9 to complete its work in 5 years an independent commission on information retrieval which would only look for information if asked to do so by families an oral history archive which would collect recorded memories and stories about the troubles in one place and an implementation and reconciliation group representing the U.K. And Irish governments along with the 5 biggest political parties the consultation ends next month and I'm told by officials I response is expected within a few weeks after that OK not too long to wait to hear the response of that and thank you. Carrie. Is it worth a cent sail for the United States to meet up with the jets flying on an offer for the very 1st time the planes are American some of the test pilots a British ship is all designed to practice 500 takeoffs and landings over the next 3 months and put 42 Commando ashore on rating exercises and should make sure it all works before the ship set sail I spoke to Commodore Andrew Betton who is the commander of the U.K. Carrier strike group this is the realisation of many years if theory and planning and discussion we've wargame various scenarios to work out the scale and the composition of the Telstra we need but this year will see the 1st deployment of a small top story but it's a step towards the full carrier strike group that the U.K. Will sustain for the next 50 years so this Troilus deployment to the east coast of the United States to him box the 1st F. 35 the Jets is a very important step but it is a troll's deployment 1st and foremost So how is this deployment going to work well Commander James Blackmore has come on the air and H.M.S. Queen Elizabeth and also as it happens the last see how he a pilot to fly off the loss and craft carrier H.M.S. Ark Royal so that the fish stay in essence to the F. $35.00 will come out from Pax River the test facility where using and in essence they're both going to arrive individually in the hopper alongside and land just on the deck down here below us at 3 spot but we're not going to stop we're going to refuel those aircraft I'm going to launch in and say we're going to that 1st day you will get a any understanding of how the jet and the ship work together and that's the 1st time we've brought together what history so. If you're really good day some day I think you'll be something that people go we finally arrived I'm told in those this in terms of U.K. Defense I also spoke to Captain of age Miss Queen Elizabeth Captain Jerry kids well I think having an aircraft carrier Capehart this sends a very clear message she's also out with her sister. Well school's strategic asset people take notice of aircraft carriers of this so I think it places the wrong even U.K. Writes the top 2 around the world let's reflect on how many navies do have aircraft carriers do probably very very So we should be very very proud of what we bought what we developed and what we're going to go on to deliver for the country it's a very significant part of the U.K. Defense for the next 50 years and we should be justly proud of it and around the ship before she left they are all proud of it their extreme Lee proud very upbeat ship let's talk to naval historian analyst Professor Eric grove now who joins us on the line Eric welcome. This big naval moment this isn't it big ship meets big jets for the 1st time land on refuel takeoff that's what you do in a war it's the real thing isn't it well yes I mean although it very slow. As you just heard but it is a significant moment and I know that Kerry kid the captain really wanted to be captain when that happened because he was catching a lot Croyle it actually had the same people keep coming back he was he was captain of up Royal when she launched the last Harry and now he's captain of Q.E. When it takes on board the 1st $35.00 B. And launches it so he's been sort of in at the end of the old and in at the creation of the new and he's absolutely delighted with that he leaves the ship in October use telling me so this will be on his final moments to get this little bit further about the F. $35.00 Eric there from the U.S. Joint operational test team out of Pax River should we be disappointed they're not British Well at the pics of the odd British you know the backend the been made unless I made some space by being flown across the Atlantic and in fact the British have been late to partners in the program ever since it started in fact originally when the F. 35 B. . Companion aircraft I would being thought about they had to be small enough to fit in the on the lift tomorrow. A little class carriage so although it is an American aircraft there's a certain American that's to it that it's quite significant Yes I think some people online on social media have been wittering on say what about the people that are of marm the F. 35 that are there but from my understanding Eric the these test aircraft have all the analytical equipment will be needed to really get a picture of what's going on landing on the carrier that's right yes exactly they are kept aircraft are they being used to test and we should learn a great deal from it I mean we've had British aircrew flying in these test aircraft for some time and back some of them have had a British around. So much so that it is very much younger American program and it's a great step forward for Anglo-American Sea Power Of course when she goes to see operationally she is going to be kind of carrying one American squadron and $61.00 fellow squadron so it will be a combined effort right from the start. These ships these aircraft called While aren't wired aircraft and an orange wired aircraft means it's got the gizmo have the gadgets which means anything it does is goes back into the screens and it's a test flight aren't wired is a bit like Formula One You know when the guys driving around in they say well it's great you know tire tire when slight and that's what you know if you're driving one of these things. On the bit is that the British contingent you'd have to get mount from it would say for space Edwards is out on the on the west coast so a bit off to try and sort of the whole thing so the same airplanes they are the same airplanes my understanding it's 3 British pilots and one American doing these these tests are very British Brits very much the for Eric exactly good I mean I mean one would expect I mean and so I think it's important to stress the level of anger American cooperation in this whole program. And the F. $35.00 B. Has got a crew tremendous amount of British. A certain amount of the of the technology and software comes to be a or the be you know be a as an American inclination to very much combined effort and I think the whole carry a program is being a combined effort are being told right at the start by the 1st senior responsible owner Admiral guild but if the main function of the aircraft was not purely to be a national asset but to provide a sufficient amount of at so that the British view would be taken into account by the joint war 2nd command so right from the start all that's right stress from national aspect of being a combined. Whole the whole thing about this combined is so important when you when you think who has gone out aircraft carriers that can operate at this level and it's not a question of how big they are or what they can fly off but they're flying the same sort of thing they have the same procedures they have to be ready to operate there's one fleet if you like or one flip tele or one tonsils and so the. Even how you speak to each other and the numbers that are called out and the numbers that the computer is calling out. You know fanciful things like that have to work together and so this is a 3 or 4 year program and eventually. She says she sounds off in the 20 twentieth's and that becomes. The ability to project power let's call this little discussion to a close on to us one very final question a new medal is going to be awarded to of all Navy ships company The served in the Gulf Chris to the what more can you tell us about 2016 missed during the time 45. So they came on to Miss Australia in the Gulf the Gulf of Aden and one ship was attacked Septra on the way that these guys behaved got the whole whole thing as a means of Garri Ratcliffe jailed in Iran has no free will save all it's a long time ago eternal 3 days that has going to go there and that excited we've had this breakthrough and who knows where. Late. Husband Richard has been campaigning for release and says there's been a change in tone since Jeremy Hunt replaced Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary. Been lots of. You know in fairness I don't know whether it's in the new foreign secretary or whether it's just a lucky charm that certainly certainly has been a big difference in the government has suggested that persons visiting the E.U. After March next year could face extra credit card charges if it fails to agree to deal with Brussels the warning is included in more than 20 documents which have been published to advise people and businesses how to plan for a no deal scenario they bricks at.