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Of course, we understand perfectly well what is needed here, but to provide balanced assessments and try to be as objective as possible. Although when you look at the facts, you understand that without external influence. Its not surprising that many people are rubbing their hands at this moment. Uh, its very difficult to remain objective, though. We will try nikolai evgenievich in your opinion. This is the current aggravation. What is it about, why and what does it lead to . First of all , it is about the fact that no matter how funny it is it sounded like the stage of reconstruction of the world had entered a hot phase. We talked about this about a month ago, which is literally in the near future, probably. At that time, we said that in the coming months there would be escalation of conflicts in various points and as an option it was named, including Nagorno Karabakh, moldova, a number of other points, this is the reality of our forecasts. At the moment, this means that regarding the situation. Such conflicts have been playing for a long time, have deep historical roots, as it would be correctly said , require a balanced approach in this situation government of states. Both armenia and azerbaijan are solving their problems. By the way, the liberation of nagornokarabakh is one of the strategic objectives, and it is precisely liberation that is spelled out in all documents of azerbaijan. And they look at it precisely from this side, as for armenia, she wanted to sit on two chairs today. Unfortunately, that doesnt happen today. So remember the phrase a little pregnant. This is exactly how it turns out, on the one hand, on one platform , it is stated that we are ready to admit. Uh, independence of karabakh consisting of uh, azerbaijan on the other hand by all means. E. There is an escalation of escalation under the influence of external factors, and in the overall picture of the world, this is another point of instability, which is used to resolve contradictions between leading state governments. Really. It can be traced even in yesterdays information flow, just a couple of headlines for those who hmm, its trying to restore the picture. First, we heard the ministry of defense of azerbaijan announced the beginning of antiterrorist measures. In karabakh later pashinyan brought forward the accusation that azerbaijan is trying to drag armenia into fullscale military action, which is why we saw that negotiations with macron. His pashinyans were blinking, france demanded an Emergency Security meeting. He the kremlin calls on yerevan. Baku yesterday we heard about this following the previously signed trilateral document. Well, then we saw what was happening on the streets of armenia protesters came out. Eh, pashinyan himself said attempts. The coup detat requires the people to resign pashinyan, but and we have been observing all day today how, in general, the tension is not subsiding alexey viktorovich, how do you look at all this . Well, here you need to understand that, firstly, that this conflict is definitely inciting. This is one of the chains of confrontation between the west and russia, that is, the task is to escalate all possible conflicts along the russian border. It stood for a long time and the karabakh conflict. Its very convenient here. Uh, and we see that, uh, this is it, the current escalation occurred after armenia, led by such an openly prowestern president. Uh, i decided to start uh, gradually distancing myself. Here is participation in his dkb. Interactions with russia seem to show that today there is no confidence in the russian side as a peacemaker guarantor. This is at least some kind of fragile peace and a whole series of such ambiguous steps taken by the armenian head of state, uh, which led to the fact that there were actually maneuvers with the americans, uh, which led to such an active diplomatic one. Uh, picking, uh, leading to the emergence of absolute, as it were, antirussian places some persons, there are heads of state. Eh, thats it. What did this lead to . That is, there was a feeling that armenia was leaving this prorussian camp and was no longer under russian guarantees. And it is clear that there is a very difficult situation around nagornokarabakh itself and its status. That is, its like theres an armenian side there. We respect you very much. Eh, and these are also our friends and allies in the dkb and npps in the cis. But in this case. At night, the armenian side showed what my colleague correctly said about an attempt to sit on two chairs, or maybe even more in this case, uh, the very first step that could show the priorities of armenia itself would be their clear position regarding Nagorno Karabakh or artsakh, as they call it . And the position this was expressed by pashinyan, and he was subjected to significant condemnation by his society, that nagornokarabakh, also known as ortsakh , is an integral part of azerbaijan. That is, it was essentially like a distribution of all the many years of struggle that the armenian people waged for the return of ethnic territories that are legally azerbaijani conflict is very complex. We do not want to stand up now; this is the business of the armenian and azerbaijani people. We dont want to do anything aside from this impact , including on us, objectively we can say that guys, lets figure it out. Between themselves, that is, that for you the same, uh, nagornokarabakh region, because when now there are attempts, firstly, to say that it doesnt work for the dkb doesnt work, russia how can it work if you yourself dont think possible to defend from the territory, if, uh, nikolopashinyan says that there are no Armenian Forces at all in nagornokarabakh , that is, then the question arises, if azerbaijan is conducting an antiterrorist operation on its territory, and there is not even the presence of armenian citizens there. What questions can then to be towards azerbaijan, if there is a presence of armenian citizens there , there is a threat to it, you are going to take them under protection, but then you will indicate this in the public space, it is very difficult for us, of course, this resonates with pain, because armenia is ours we are an ally and our cooperation has increased quite well in recent years, and trade and economic interaction with armenia is within the framework. Im very serious. Here we support the cultural initiative. We respect the armenian people very much and support the integrity of armenia, but we also have good friendly relations with azerbaijan, this is also our political friend, this is also a country with which we have very close ties. In this case, we are in this one, and between them a person to whom we are not directly attached cannot enter as an active party, but we we can offer and this has been stated. Our president and the russian side emphasize that there is no military solution. Here you can only negotiate because, of course, no one wants ethnic genocide, from one side or the other. This is a terrible thing, and the belarusians, who once experienced it themselves, understand very clearly that we must help to ensure that such a situation does not arise under any circumstances, viktorovich well, really. If you look, if there is even such a not a human question, but i regret that ukraine did not learn a lesson that every step will be necessary, especially in the current world, in general you need to be prudent in order to avoid bloodshed, where diplomacy can and should work. This is not this, now he is watching the highland ship. Unfortunately. Yes, indeed, so many countries have modern ruling elites. They do not learn lessons from history or from the events that happen in the world. Yes, this means that the era turns out to plunge the destinies of entire nations, which means, uh, into the furnace of strangers interests. Naturally. This leads to the collapse of statehood and other terrible things that we are seeing today in ukraine and, unfortunately, at other points of tension here too. Similarly , nikolai evgenievich also absolutely correctly noted that in fact this is in the interests of the United States of america and with them the maximum the presence of such conflicts along the perimeter of the Russian Federation in order to actually weaken it, and the only sad thing here is that people and nations are becoming hostages of this whole situation entire states that are colliding with each other. It is not in their own interests for warriors to ensure the interests of others. This is absolutely sad. Well, then lets move on to the next big topics, moreover, one way or another, what is happening now around nagornokarabakh intersects with what is happening now, lets call it that in ukraine. Although the front is much broader than geographical outlines. The worlds attention is still in modern ukraine. Not chained to new york, the week of the highlevel genes sammmia has opened. The un is increasingly it sounds like the organization is no longer the same. However, there is no other way to bring together such different concepts of the world order in one place. Not yet. But there is a topic that seems to concern everyone. Isnt it time to wind down on the ukrainian front . The guardian calls the presence of the president of ukraine at the summit the greatest geopolitical drama and the director of the Un International crisis Group Think Tank richard gowanterized zelenskys decision to participate in the event as a gamble if zelensky goes to the assembly and the Security Council and will insist that ukraine must continue to fight. And that now is not the time for diplomacy. I think he will receive serious rebuff, thats what he said. This is what they nikolayevich are hinting at in this way, or is it no longer a hint, but an insistent demand of a glance. This is already a requirement, because. Uh, in recent years, literally since 2021 , the Russian Federation has been a bogeyman everywhere and almost no one supports its position, but opposes the counterbalance. This is the first healthy one. Lets say these are the thoughts that appeared among western hmm not allies. So, well, on the western side, from the point of view of how the crisis could develop, yes in this situation. Finally, there are common sense notes and its time to sit down at the negotiating table. He, i just added, he added when he said this phrase, this one, comrade go he said that i rely on the opinion of the majority in africa in asia in latin america, there was a parallel statement from turkish president erdogan, who said we continue our efforts with the conviction that war has no winners and peace has no losers. I would continue uh erdogans thought in the words that our president uttered is time to sit down at the negotiating table, only peace can resolve some situations in ukraine and this is the thesis that , by the way, belarus and i have been with you throughout. Well , i dont know, for the last year and a half weve been constantly sending things in all directions. Its finally starting to resonate. Its not a no, because we were heard. No, its just that the objective situation is developing in such a way that there are two options for the development of events in ukraine. First, russia fulfills all its obligations. This is scary. It fulfills the goals that yes planned, and its not that this is a geopolitical blow to the west and to all the countries that are now giving in to the second option against it. It loses only part of its territory and remains in an unclear status. And this is an area of gray zone and incomprehensibility that is happening in the near future and the president of ukraine at the moment, who arrived at this summit again, as always, in a paramilitary uniform and brought his wife, who is dressed in military style. Why is it unclear, because the main politicians are not they take it. Yes, there is such a thing until the end, that is , he plays his role to the end, but they are already telling him, enough, the script is changing. These are the directions that should be in the future and in the future we will still have to negotiate. Yuri valentinovich i will support nikolai evgenievich, of course, the visit is connected. It is more like such a hysterical voyage associated with the results of the socalled counteroffensive, despite the fact that in the Ukrainian Information space there are sensational successes. In fact. This is not true, uh, more than 70,000 Ukrainian Military personnel a huge amount of equipment was lost, including during this contrast, for the first time in world history, they burned, for example , british equipment, their famous challenge tank, which we remember, that is, a complete failure, russia is grinding, uh, the armed forces of ukraine, uh, because military sciences exist a certain percentage. After which, when the grind reaches colleagues who wont let me lie to a certain percentage, uh, everything will start to collapse exponentially, this is the motivation of the armed uh fighters of these armed formations. And uh, that means thats all with related to this, so russia has already practically achieved. E of these results. Maybe another two or three months, its probably difficult to make predictions. Well, in any case, the strategic result is clear, so zelensky is an actor, and as always, he plays. E all inc as they say yes puts everything, and he rides with his presence. Eh, including with such a military shell. Uh , he wants, uh, to be supported and put further pressure on the Russian Federation, but this is no longer possible, because in the west there are, uh, think tanks. I dont see the results and it seems to me that blinkins recent visit to kiev is connected with that and then the subsequent visit. Uh, German Foreign minister, uh, out of the blue, like there to check something, say hello, check watches. It seems to me that their visits are connected with the fact that they are beginning to force him into negotiations, because his colleagues correctly said that there was a clear defeat. In the west, it is unacceptable from the point of view of the western elites; it will be a geopolitical catastrophe for them, so it is urgent to drag the situation into the path of peace negotiations. We see whats there well, firstly, it must be said that the delegation works differently these days in the fields. In fact, it is headed by foreign minister sergei malikov. Well, a lot, besides the speech there are a lot of bilateral meetings. Well, when you observe all these and this sudden frankness, he uh . By integrity, when they have already plucked up courage and are trying to set the direction for zelensky. Is this because there is a crisis in the influence of the organization on the one hand, and on the other hand the growth of the influence of such unions, like the sco, like brix for us, for example, at the moment the un is still the organization to which we should tune in as much as possible, either for us in the main vector. These are those large unions in which we either already stand, or on the way to entry. So, look about uh, the United Nations and ukraine uh. The ukrainian crisis itself. And the hot phase in which it has now entered is actually a war, in which more and more participants are being involved in one way or another. This is not only now a conflict directly with russia with ukraine and not only supporting ukraine. There, the United States and western europe, we see the attraction of more players, turkey, iran , which seems to be helping russia a little , now a recent visit. Uh, kim jongun to russia, where there was also a conversation about possible militarytechnical cooperation, one way or another, a reaction to the ukrainian events. All there is a demonstration of the great powers, the powers of the developing world, for example, and the same india, yes. Well , frankly, at the recent g20 summit , such an open antiukrainian speech is impossible. Uh, give me the floor zelensky, even 20 didnt invite him there. But thats all that this means, uh, the conflict was not stopped by the organization that was created in order to prevent these conflicts, oh, after the end of the cold war. E not only relaxed, but in fact, we see he has become a mouthpiece today about western ideas about western thought. It turned into tools. On the one hand, today, as colleagues correctly said, in conditions when the western part is beginning to lose militarily, a this conflict in ukraine cannot be longlasting; in the active phase of hostilities , we see that now ukraine is narrower, and from military operations directly at the front , the terrorist state is actively moving to terror, bombing russian territory with its drones. He is trying to carry out strikes and stage outright terrorist attacks, including attempts on our territory. And as we saw, yes, uh, he hires mercenaries and tries to act. What is this method of terror . What is he talking about . You cant decide so to say in a fair fight of questions you dont have enough strength, so you start to spoil things on the sly. You begin to strike not at the military infrastructure, but at civilians , sowing chaos and panic, trying to create, uh, an unhealthy state of mind in the public. Thoughts , uh, this could all spread further. Its not just russia, belarus, it will go further and further. When the same terrorist actions begin in the world, the task of the un was to prevent all this from happening. They had to start the negotiation process. They perhaps they should have brought the forces to the negotiating table. This was the beginning of belarus. Belarus began to invite people to its territory in the very first days, and special military operations of ukrainian and russian negotiations. Date of organization. Heres the question. Do we need it, of course, no one is saying now that we should take it tomorrow and lock it with a key and hang up the lock. Everyone has gone to the front. But no, this organization was created, there are International Standards documents that regulate peoples activities, but we see that objectively it needs reform. Here just at this session very very well , just in this question, trying to clarify the moment of the cloud, we see the sunset. He started can we talk about what . So what . Just as you correctly said today, it should probably be a different structure today, the un should take into account the interests of not individual players , not individual states. We say the General Assembly makes a decision by a majority vote, where all un member countries participate. Well, excuse me, of course, but if indias vote is equal to the vote of some tuvalu, to the one going under the water, who is already sitting down and saying, well, our country will disappear altogether as a territory, but we will remain in the digital world. Well, this is not entirely correct, where there are one and a half billion people, where there is a huge, developing economy and voice of the astronomical state, which will soon disappear altogether. The question is right, perhaps now it should be reoriented towards interaction. These blocks of structures. Yes, there is nasa, there is the european union, there is this conditional one about the western bloc, there is that there is a g20, there is a g7 g well, the conditional name, considering acceptance there are other organizations, there in south america and in asia in africa african just like that, lets go further then this should be like this. We touched on the topic of zelensky in the leg in fact, but we understand and the media have already reported that there is a meeting ahead with biden. What do you think zelensky and the elder will be talking about in bely, i think they will definitely receive further instructions. It is quite obvious that he does not act towards the ukrainian president. Yes, actually for some interests. Yes, and the indication is that the United States of america is that colleagues is it here until the end or is it time to sit down for today , now we just discussed that the west is interested in starting to go to certain negotiations. But what is the danger here, because i would like to draw attention to the fact that, indeed, there is no alternative to peace negotiations in ukraine, yes, but at the same time, the goal of denazification and demilitation of ukraine must be achieved, otherwise five to ten 10 years will simply pass. And this conflict will resume with renewed vigor. In a certain sense, such a transfer to the western it is necessary so that they can again regroup our tasks to saturate it, so that it is stronger, so that therefore, if now we simply continue with icons with leads our readers to this conclusion. Ukraine must win. Otherwise , you will have to look for the guilty too. Yes, another option. This is what has already been said today by the western elites, who actively support ukraine if they do not receive defeat in ukraine. Of course, this is a blow to them. Yes, that means they will have to explain where these multibillion dollar expenses and invested money went. Yes, that means maintaining the combat capability of ukraine and why it ended in a fiasco, so naturally this stuff also plays out here. I think that, of course, there will be a certain message, which means the implementation of peace negotiations. Well, its clear, it means that the west will strive to defend its influence on this ukrainian territory. This means so as not to let out , uh, and finally not lose your authority in the eyes of your own population, which means in the international arena, but on the other hand, i once again emphasized that there must be a clear the position is clear that the day of certification and demilitarization of ukraine cannot be conceded at the meeting in sochi of the two president s of belarus , journalists asked russia about their attitude towards peaceful prospects, and with ukraine after his arrival in kiev, blinks on this topic are noticeable. Let me remind you that the us secretary of state stepped up and then declared kievs readiness and that moscow should take the initiative , saying it takes two to tango. What do putin and lukashenko think about this in england . Is it really good for england . Yes, i think that compactness is important for ukraine. This is what is important. This is true they will always dance to someone elses music and to someone elses board. It seems like they started dancing, turned it over, went to belarus , then it will be there, and then, oh, damn it, the ecumenical kinets gave a command, they gave a command, he forbade negotiations on the table to the pope in person, so there are absolutely no people, the one who forbade himself forbade the absurdity on the part of zelensky and the ukrainian stem , its actually hard to say anything. Yes explained question yes ukraine today, and the ukrainian leadership zelensky and his entourage, what do they come from when they take their steps. So zelensky went now, and heres what he said literally this night, he said something that everyone was horrified by, in fact, sensible people took it. You said, god thank you, that you once removed Nuclear Weapons from ukraine because, while blaming russia, he actually stated that if ukraine had these weapons now, she would have already used them. That is, he was ready to unleash a nuclear third world war, based on the unclear even whose interests are not the interests of the ukrainians, because most of the money that comes in today goes to the development of the army for military affairs, what they manage to save from theft. Yes, from transferring to offshore companies from hiding in your own pockets. This is not used for social needs. Not for ukrainians. This goes towards this conflict, which in the end is this money. Look, at the same time, the peace formula from nato, i quote , so much should be given if president Vladimir Putin russia lays down its arms. Peace will come, says already, as russia says. Yes we have there is definitely the same desire for you to give up, but we are ready to have a conversation. That is, from both russia and belarus there are not just calls, but we have seen concrete actions that these parties are ready to sit down, partially sacrifice their interests, but achieve for himself something his what Vyacheslav Viktorovich is talking about is the denomination of ukraine is the most important moment. Once upon a time , germany was not dedenocified. Today we completely see neonazism, revived, as in that wonderful film about stirlitz , prophetic words or yes. But you cant allow this to happen in russia, which no one took into account, which was deceived for years for decades and who were driven into a corner, they said that we are expanding on this in order to prevent ourselves from russia when there was no russia at all and they promised not to expand, they must have promised, do not expand, they expanded, hiding behind the fact that there may be a danger and today, when this danger has been depicted in front of russia, she is forced to answer and say, well, its not in vain that we expanded. Well, well, now i just want to return to stoltenberg. Well, believe me. This is the statement. This is the top there is no other way to say cynicism, because a person who does not understand the essence of what is happening, even apart from the only thing , he heads an organization that in recent years has done whatever it wanted in europe in the world and so on, uh, but the matter is not an organization, it is americas hands this organization to declare that if russia withdraws all weapons , it will destroy us; this has already happened in the nineties of the last century. We cut weapons. We delilitarized ourselves, we destroyed the latest weapons systems, missiles, aircraft, which , according to their characteristics, were significantly higher than what the enemy had. We have accomplished all this. At the same time, nato and all at that time there were less than 20odd states. They didnt do anything, and not only promised and said. Today they are trying to buy us once again with the same, so to speak, uh, catch us on the same hook of empty promises, and i would also pay attention. After all, this man. He broadcasts. He doesnt broadcast his thoughts, he broadcasts his thoughts. United west the golden billion of you is not united. Well, Something Like that. Well, we somehow have this phrase less than them less. But before that, berg is the parsley of modern politics. I cant call it anything else, he says the same thing, literally russia must lose. Ukraine must win. How do you know . What better answer is possible, yes, stoltenberg and berg here are two photographs. We found very recent ones and here is one photo, yes, regarding the fact that russia should capitulate and lets show the second photo here too. Its also the same composition. Yes, this is a recent photo. She conveys something good about the atmosphere. Uh, weak in quotes russia and something tells me that the smiles in this photo were at the very moment when they heard stoltenbergs proposal to toast to victory. Still, you think, well, in general, we, in this studio , have discussed this crookedness many times, small herbs to read european politicians and, probably, one of these prizes. Uh, mr. Barrel should take a remember, as a result of the contrast, he said that this is a blow below the belt , that russia was responsible, and it must answer for it, and we must lead new ones sanctions. Well, thats why some kind of politics is already moving into the field of medicine, but in fact the situation is becoming dangerous. It seems to me that our western colleagues have begun to understand that zelensky is beginning to get out of control. I want to give an example, even his skirmishes with polish partners. Just yesterday they were hugging, kissing and talking about, uh, unbreakable friendship that will carry through the centuries. And look what is happening to each other now. They met , they succumbed, they sued each other , accusing each other of all sorts of violations. This literally happened literally in a matter of days at the same time that he was getting out of control, and we will touch on this topic with poland , ukraine and their relations. Lets continue. Or rather , lets close this topic stoltenberg is finding it increasingly difficult to be convincing even among his own people. Here are two short opinions, like a verdict, the businessman presses sachs, laid out a map of the fighting in ukraine and noted that those occupied by high territory are so small that they are barely visible on it and this idea in the comments was very accurately continued by elon musk so many deaths for such insignificant results regarding the mask itself then they let the dogs go for refusing to help the starlinks in the war against russia, thats what billionaires are not just this is understandable, but another picture here catches the eye of a sky news journalist, the next time someone starts telling you about the high ethics of the western press. Remember this propagandist from skywas. Its true that led to the death of ukrainians, one ukrainian official said that by your actions you could putin , how do you comment on this . Vladimir putin called you an outstanding person, mr. Musk you like it. It is true that ukrainians died because of your ignorance and feelings of selfimportance, one highranking official believes so. What is the free press tag worth . Western values of democracy. We took a good look at 2020 , where they are enraged in the west so that the belarusian cauldron does not turn out and the ukrainian front has to be deployed. Listen to a famous lithuanian deputy. Gimantasa pavelenica, not a drop, yes, when he throws it in the face, even as a fugitive you didnt take a single building, but you dont fight, as it should be, the way lithuanians and ukrainians understand this. Eh, you looked at your revolution very beautifully. I was everywhere myself, but we still didnt understand. Why didnt you take a single building . Why didnt you fight these Security Forces . Why did you only go with flowers . This is a struggle, we must win this freedom, we must break and fight this regime. Who is speaking, question deputy. The first is the second, supposedly a politician of a neighboring state, and we constantly say that neighbors should live with each other. Normally the neighborhood is peaceful and this man is trying to uh, drive, klin continue to escalate the situation in belarus, 3 years have passed. Thank god, we have already figured out what happened; the majority understood what people wanted to do here among themselves; the concept of unity of the nation appeared. This miracle appears on a blue eye and tells what someone and what he did in his life, with whom he fought. Why is he talking about this now, what will be his next step . Yes, thats exactly why he said it now, because by any means necessary to destabilize the situation in in our state, to find any reason, like latvians, like lithuanians. Like the poles, they are now the coopers, ahead of the rest of the planet, running to bite belarus to bite russia. Normal players are not getting into this yet. But this is hmm well, its no coincidence , its not the one you have, of course, the American Flag uhhuh, a statesman of another state officially declares in fact that lithuania does not accept the current government of the republic of belarus officially actually declares that they support attempts at a coup detat, and attempts military forces forcibly changing the constitutional system in a neighboring country. Well, from a diplomatic point of view. Of course, we have already lowered the entire possible level of relations with them, but, in my opinion, there is still time for an attorney. Do we have yours . In this case , we probably need our Foreign Ministry to react very seriously somehow, because this means an open declaration of war on our state, to put it this way honestly and without any diplomatic equivocations. That is, they themselves came to power illegally in within the framework of the then existing ussr and then this criminal scheme for seizing power is spread to other postsoviet countries regions. We saw how with the support of the same lithuania and others. Uh, well, these were small players, but funding came from them and some of the participants in the event; moreover, after the maidan, lithuania copied the Ukrainian Government of its minister , a citizen of the lithuanian state, who was the minister of ukraine just like there were us citizens and georgian citizens ruled ukraine, anyone but ukrainians, when the same biden was sitting there in the first places to push aside president poroshenko, in short, how to react to such words, react , firstly, uh, a tough response should be made to the world, in fact. And what should we treat in this case, uh, from the point of view. Eh, lithuania, for example, compared to belarus, its a dwarf, lets face it, of course, these threats must understand that they are training terrorists there. We must increase our vigilance within ourselves, but take it seriously. Lithuania will not declare war on us, because he hasnt. Humanity will not survive the advent of artificial intelligence, because the very concept of a person will change forever. We are already seeing a future in which such a concept as a country, a community, a collective, a family, is absent in its pseudocivilized world at the moment. They close the borders from everything traditional from all those values that we are now positioning with the strange east, making it worse only for ourselves so that you understand, uh, modernity and you must definitely understand the past, read it and according to the mistakes of the past, learn how to avoid the mistakes of the future; attach three things in life to the mother of god; you cannot transfer the earth to the project. The history of your country is knowledge that gives the answer to three most important questions. Where are we from . Why are we who we are and how do we, based on our historical richness, build our strategy for the future . You need to be attentive to the news that you consume, and try to avoid digital fast food. And if some news causes you through excessive emotions and desire to do anything, most likely you will be manipulated. We have never threatened anyone, the belarusian is a man of compromise, but before the couple we dont want war, we all, yes, we want to preserve peace, and we will not allow anyone to tell us how to live with the help of weapons, political technology, or anything else . Say, dont be silent, dont miss new episodes on the belarus 24 tv channel. An interesting process was touched upon in the first part. Um, we are watching the programs, mmm, warsaw and kiev until recently were so close, as everyone thought, they were each others native states, but people who know history understood how much of an illusion this is, proximity, warsaw and kiva, there are a lot of open questions now we see warsaw says, we wont let your wheat in. Grain ukraine says, and we in return, that means apples and vegetables, and yurievich you know both poland and ukraine very well, and so it turns out that the bouquet for the candy period is starting. Gray everyday life , you know, they kissed the supreme radius very much because they who these actors are, that is, from both sides. Only, probably, their theater is completely different, but thats all now. On their places, uh, the regime of dudemaroved kachinsky wants to catch the last carriage, because in a month they have parliamentary elections. They conducted relevant sociological studies and saw that the absolute majority of poles are outraged, and with the help that turns out to be, uh, zelenskys nazi regime and uh, with all the spending that they agree to, they gave , therefore, pay attention, how suddenly sharply the rhetoric has also changed, and it has become. Some people even seem to be belligerent towards ukraine, this desire to jump up last carriage. Its a coincidence that this maximum aggravation happened. Just when zelensky flew towards the canoe , because from the outside it looks , you know, like fragments from a soviet film class. Yes, somehow there is a battle for the title of beloved wife of sukhois comrades. This also cannot be ruled out. This also cannot be ruled out. Uh, of course, the poles want to pull all the flows completely over themselves, and it would be better for them if all this funding went to them and, as i said, the polish side. Its through us that all these weapons come. They would already distributed a little, of course, according to the polish tradition, biting off a piece of this pie for themselves, but the main thing, from my point of view, the main motivation for such a conflict that broke out was definitely the desire to jump up. Here in this last carriage. He wants e duda marowiec kacinski. This is the mode. Uh, threeheaded hydra. He wants to please the polish voter, but the polish voter is dissatisfied, and we see the result there, including marginal political forces, including forces advocating a complete end financing of the zelensky regime is starting to gain certain percentages that come out of this. Marginal ghetto from this sociological error, well, from my point of view, of course, definitely. History shows that the relationship between ukraine and poland, given the fact that in fact now in poland there are, the ruling elite is the spiritual heirs of those rulers who were in interwar poland in the 2030s, and there the policy was built primarily on lies and voiceless nationalism is what we are now seeing in poland and here definitely polish nationalism. It cannot be reconciled with the ukrainian, everyone remembers this volyn massacre and the claims of the polish authorities that they voice regarding the eastern lands. In the twentieth year. They declared that they needed all of belarus. For example, if we are talking about our country, then this is quite natural. This means all these deep contradictions. They come out one way or another, everything that happened, which means there seems to be some kind of rapprochement. It was an immediate and absolutely right colleague that the task of uh, those rules of the polish ruling officials today it is to stay in power. The Election Campaign that they will be holding requires that what they carry out be supported by the majority of voters who will come to the polling stations from here. They try to get out, otherwise they give, as they say , they back down, but again here it is necessary for the polish ruling elite to remember historical lessons. Yes, that means how the policy of their spiritual fathers from the twenties and thirties ended , when poland was actually interwar period, she managed to quarrel with all her neighbors, yes, so she was almost the first there, which means she concluded friendly embraces with germany in the end. How did it end for poland . And how did the polish patrons at that time, Great Britain and france, behave . Yes, they actually betrayed the poles, they threw them to the slaughter, which means, and now the polish elites are repeating the same mistakes. This means they are creating such a policy of unscrupulous people around their extremes and intensifying it. Artificially speaking hysteria, some mythical belarusian threat. Again we see here lies and continue to pursue policies in the same spirit, focusing on the same thing. Britain , the United States of america, having forgotten what this orientation led to before the second world war, and the mythical belarusian threat in our country, yuri valerievich turned out to be among the threats to the polish regime. We found a paper here, well show it now. Uh, very curious, they want to put you on trial , they want to write you down as scoundrels, uh, polish authorities, but the court is somehow strange, its some kind of trial in absentia. I dont know further, lawyers, what kind of business is this . You know, this is a very interesting situation. Uh, poland is a country it declares you to be democratic, so trials of politicians take place in the form of a stalinist troika. I want to say that for about a year, probably more than a year, i have been seeking the right to sue them for the fact that they are absolutely illegal. Uh, they included me and called me a threat to the National Security of the european union, and only a year later, having received this right to sue. E. I received a paper stating that i would be tried, but without my presence, without the presence of my lawyer and without an appointed date and time of the court hearing, that is , they will send the Court Decision by mail. E. Well, thats why our viewers will probably be very curious. How is the political process going in poland and is it possible to throw a stone after all this, first of all it concerns our compatriots who are temporarily there, is it possible to throw a stone in our garden at our justice, if, uh, we see such blatant things, blatant, probably unique in jurisprudence, in general they now have, if you look at this example many others are bothering ukraine, polish society, and many are talking about what we see. How many corruption scandals there are, this is the story of hundreds of thousands of visas issued, which actually influence migration crises to a lesser extent on our border in different parts of the world, and many have started talking about the fact that after october 15 it will be hot, to put it mildly, if we remember words, lech valencia he said that if duda and peace remain, expect a civil war. How far can your forecast go, and i im not ready to say that there will be a civil war in poland, because uh, in general, society itself is still. She is not ready for such a development of the situation, she does not want to strain herself too much. It relaxed a little. He doesnt want what happened in ukraine to suddenly happen; as for ukraine, this example doesnt particularly bother them. For one simple reason , that poland stood aside from the ukrainian crisis, it received dividends in the form of Financial Support by replacing its weapons at the expense of the United States , using its structure as a hub in relation to ukraine and i also wanted to get these territories so that we dont talk anymore, here she plays her game. And as for the polish and polish peoples, they do not experience the burden of this war ; they go there. Only who are the mercenaries who go there to make money in their heads, having the prospect that they will eventually take a piece of lviv from their regions. Theres still some territory there. Uh, so lets say near the border it s like the icing on the cake in the long term and they thought about it all the time, youll remember those hugs that were between ukraine and uh, poland permission for, and uh, citizens of poland to be on the territory of ukraine and occupy leadership, leadership positions, because that was the case. And now, when the time has come to deal with the elections with our own people, in ukraine, or more precisely in ukraine , elections are expected and in poland there are elections and now there is no showdown. The people are now being dismantled. The elite who in one country and another are trying to stay in power in ukraine, comrade zelensky, he clearly says, we must remove the choice or pay me money so that i can manage them to spend in poland even more terrible , i tried to play, on my own, outside the game , so to speak, without listening to the recommendations of europe, and here tusk appeared, who is today a european deputy. Who pursues the interests of europe and who has now been brought forward as an alternative to todays government and the things he says, including, so to speak , scandals related to the sale of visas and other political issues. They clearly show what is going on inside poland; they have much more internal problems than external ones, and its rightly said, uh, colleague. Our he says that he is now a problem for poland and for the european union, it is not the politicians who are the problem, and the political steps that are not taken by those in power. If this continues, ukraine has frightened many, but it has not taught europe, it has only, uh, posed a question to it. Maybe it will cost us more than we expected just like that, so in my opinion there will not be a new revolution there. There will be an internal conflict, it may be an internal conflict with certain exits to the street and so on, but the poles will agree, they will agree among themselves, Something Like this. Well, first of all, i would like to make a note regarding my neighbor yuri, uh, the situation. This, of course, is not something unknown in jurisprudence, that is, a citizen of another state located on the territory of another state. For some reason, poland decided to bring into its jurisdiction judging according to some of its own laws. What did you do . God knows what crime he committed, but without making it impossible for a citizen of another state to even speak out. Dont send yours lawyer without telling when and where this trial will take place, that is. Well, i dont know what to call it. Well, im not a lawyer, but ive come across this a little bit in jurisprudence in general, that is , even the americans, when they extend their jurisdiction to the whole world, they somehow justify what they have. Interests here in this case. Eh, what opportunities does poland have there . What interests does it have in relation to especially Yuri Voskresensky . Well, its even difficult to guess. That is, this is, of course, complete nonsense as far as relationships are concerned. Ukraine and poland were initially understood to be two countries that have a very rich, eventful history of mutual conflicts and contradictions throughout history. They had so many facts and facts on both sides. This is genocide, destruction of each other on the basis of nationality, religion and territorial disputes, which have not gone away, what united them now. This was unconditional. Russophobia against russia means that they had a common enemy. This is what makes them hug at this moment kiss as soon as possible and god forbid. Yes, this will not become a common enemy. This will immediately begin. The massacre between poland and ukraine will immediately automatically even now with the existence of a common enemy. We still have these complaints against each other, they havent gone away. We see how part of polish society periodically splashes out these claims into the public space and all these marches of anger take place and the demands of polish nationalists not to forget the massacre and this is emphasized a lot and what we are seeing now in poland when they beat ukrainian Migrant Workers there, when they call them names and find fault with them in every possible way, when they do their job as taxi drivers for sellers or someone else, there is complete disrespect from the outside. Uh, parts of polish citizens. They also have complaints that we took you here. Well give you food and drink here. And here you begin, as a result of some uh, horses, to throw out a claim that you owe us even more and more, and the gap that has now occurred is demonstrative. Eh, here, which in the margins it resulted in what we were talking about. At the beginning of the program there is a planned meeting, which suddenly it didnt take place. Eh, characterizes it very well, that is, despite the fact that there is a common enemy, everyone still has their own national interests, national interest. Poland, as was correctly noted here. It will turn, uh, into a powerful state inside europe with its number of allies, to create this system between the seas, where poland plays a crucial role and poland does this. Not with the support of europe and brussels, but does it with the support of the United States, today we find ourselves in such an interesting situation, what she needs, firstly, in front of her own, its not that not only ukrainian sponsor of the usa the usa is the main point of support for poland in its claims to any kind of power at all and in europe there will be no more usa and germany france everyone else has simply been eaten, so now, as they correctly said, it goes, firstly, sport for the championship, who is closer to the body of the grandfather. Is it poland or ukraine, yes, to whom should more resources go, and at the same time, the question is, then the responsibility for these resources is certainly between poland and ukraine , there will be no real peace and real Mutual Respect there, because its interesting that the intersecting 17 september. Now, to sum it up, we cant help but remember, and there. We are just talking about poland for the third time. We celebrated National Unity day as a young holiday, but somehow it quickly took its place. This means that he came to the court, we have a triad on may 9, the third of july on september 17. Lets listen to the president , who made very important messages in the documentary show, including for the poles , how can you forget how guns were fired at belarusian villages, how belarusian children were beaten with roskami in other peoples schools and protected belarusians were abused by russian ukrainians in the polish concentration camp in bereza. This is all a fact. But for the sake of friendship with the polish people, we stepped over this pain. For god, this was taken for weakness. But the lesson has been learned. Time has shown that our noble desire to live in peace was not appreciated by our neighbors. Im not talking about the polish people. Im talking about elite politicians who have been thirsting for revenge all these years. Well , i think that these words were heard by god, especially by ordinary poles. They sometimes give feedback, we see what they hear, but first of all. This was a message, also for belarusians are not specifically this phrase. And what was heard in the minsk arena, what should september 17 remind us of . What should it teach us . How should todays belarusians mobilize us . Well, first of all, it should remind us of the role and importance of unity in our history, because if you and i think about it and look even deeper than september 17, 1839, belarus is a geopolitical crossroads. Our ancestors on this earth. For thousands of years they have been living somewhere, they have stood on it for their right to live on this earth and to live the way they see fit without the unity of the majority in this goal. Of course not, so what the president said clearly speaks of the importance of unity in our history, unity that gives us the right to live on this land and live as we see fit, and not to please someone elses interests. You know, we have entered an era of turbulence, regional conflicts and wars. It seems to me that pandoras box was hidden from the kosovo story, and thats where it all started. From my point of view, thats why at the last meeting with the governor. Uh, krasnodar the president said, yes yesterday, that all we see in ukraine are more flowers and berries to come, and i agree with him. We are entering a difficult, difficult era and we must maintain stability and calm. Uh, in these conditions it is only possible with a combination of strong leader , National Unity, consolidation and development strategy. Now, if we have these three things, then we will stand and defeat nikolayevich and independence is very expensive and can only be ensured under the condition of the unity of power and peoples. September 17 is a date that teaches us that the belarusian people endured a lot. They tried to divide it, they tried to destroy it, dividing first one part and then another, despite the most difficult interwar situation, despite the conditions of the peace of riga, despite, uh, the beginning of the war. Uh, world war ii in europe , belarusian. The people managed to unite under these difficult conditions. We returned to each other. We created our common home. Now they will try to separate us again in order to destroy us one by one. Therefore, we need to very clearly understand the belarusians, as a people, as a nation, we have taken place, we must not now not allow no one along any lines of division will alienate us from each other, not by nationality, not by language, nor by religion, if we clearly understand that we have our own country , our own state, our own nation for interests that we are ready to fight to the end and the only red line. As our president said on september 17, this is the state border and we will not allow it to be crossed, then we will survive. Thank you very much for this conversation for today, see you in a week happily. Everything you ever wanted to know about greatness belarusian churches. Thats what we came up with, that after all, if you think its vladyka, this is the future cathedral. 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