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Listen, well, so impressive bt studios in my professional activity, no one has ever appeared funny. Are you ready . Why are you talking here . And well, apparently, because i was going to buy the belarusian opposition, its like, and for half a million euros, but lets say a meeting of the longterm perspective and bonuses and among among Close Associates tikhanovskaya, there will be one. Yes, what will be ready to move her from her chair and entice her closest circle. Well, actually on my own hmm, to lead that very belarusian opposition. They call it Olga Kovalkova. Olga kovalkova will be the president. Member of the presidium of the Coordination Council of the socalled belarusian opposition, the path to kovalkov s politics was thorny, but unprepossessing. 4 years from 2004 to 2008 of work in district administrations. Minsk lawyers and accountant in 2017 kovalkova became cochair of an unregistered party. Belarusian christian democracy one of the most russophobic organizations on the territory of belarus in 2016 and 2019 nominated candidates for parliamentary elections, but the sacred figure for the belarusian opposition of 3 of the attack did not even exceed four in 2020 after an unsuccessful primary election race, where kovalkova also did not collect the required number of signatures, she sided with tikhonovskaya and the head of mustabu and svetlana tried to spin the womens revolt of the womens chains, the socalled solidarity. However, while some wandered in chains until night. Kovalkova evaporated in solidarity, somewhere. At the very beginning of the womans action at the headquarters of the three nymphs. There was no room for a fourth. I want to shoot simply as it comes out. Maybe give, bring for example, a telephone to the light of eurodemocracy, maybe svetlana we can give you food svetlana good afternoon, and when the ranks of the inspirers beat, the maidan began to thin out to the point of indecentness and everyone rushed beyond the cordon. She rushed there. And kovalkova, with a backpack on her shoulders, calmly checked at the belarusianpolish border, waited for the bus on the grodnowarsaw route and left to europe, where to this day, from memory, she is called a comradeinarms, a selfproclaimed leader and a member of her coordinating council. This is Something Like a parliament, but where no one has ever elected anyone. Kovalkova was sentenced in absentia by the Minsk City Court to 12 years in prison and is included in the list of persons involved in terrorist activities. Well, she is a plainlooking person, but uh, and a big burden of vanity. In fact, it was enough to put a little pressure on the points of her ambition and political unrealization. Shes actually even practically didnt ask any questions. Well, who are we, what are we, there was only one question how much are we willing to pay for her to be overthrown and boorish . Lets take it in order, probably, how long have you been communicating with kovalkova. Well, about six months. Hmm, first. First , our man talked to her. Uh, well, on the eve of march 8 at the end of february. Ahh, she was asked for an interview. Well, sort of like a journalist, uh, Russian Media enogen. Strong women in belarusian politics interviews, for example, svetlana in the nineties and in this matter there were independent. No, i dont coordinate my interviews with svetlana tikhonovskaya, as it would probably be strange if we only had one strong woman in a couple of days. Eh, she has already been offered hmm, lets say an independent path, an independent path, and a new leader of the belarusian opposition. We have a number of large and at first glance. They are such invisible and unobvious patrons of the arts. These are such serious people who have a Significant Impact on democracy in russia , including the cis. Our partners, directly lets say they are very interested in your person and are ready to assist in your independent Political Development , there is almost a conversation that Olga Kovalkova is the new leader of the belarusian opposition, of course, someone. If you are interested, then i will simply pass on your Contact Information and they will contact you. There are no hidden interests, if, frankly speaking, its just to communicate with people who have such pizza in a relationship, not me, so of course im interested. Well, then the next question arose. How much are we ready for this is to pay your political in general, where is the team . Well, that is, in essence, you need to draw up some kind of basic minimum budget. Yes, this is how much money you would need for all expenses. Uh, uh, heres your path from six months. Yes yeah and hmm kovalkova sent a program of her expenses. This is the contents of her office. Uh, those are the salaries for her team. These are her foreign ones, and her voyages, well, for example, to the usa hmm britain germany well, in general, there was a fairly large , voluminous list. These were flight tickets. Accommodation itself. Well, yes hmm kovalkova didnt even forget about the daily allowance for herself and her guys, she came up with 510,000, and 510,000 and 200 euros. I apologize for not answering right away. The presented document contains amounts from real life and can be justified. In line two, the amounts indicated are approximate, based on my knowledge of the cost of the work of such specialists. It includes, uh, a Political Campaign with the development of a position on various issues and their promotion, creation of websites, maintenance of social networks and website preparation of content communication with journalists. Promotion of the interview link all ideas that could someday appear together lead to some result only trips, they will not lead to results, not trips, they will not lead to results. What s going on in the socalled belarusian opposition now . Well, its a squabbling fight for a piece. Actually, a couple of months later i was already communicating with kovalkova, as an assistant to that same russian philanthropist who was very interested in her. Well, not just her, but her nomination to political olympus instead tikhanovskaya. Hello olga yes, good afternoon. How are you doing . Well, well it was a long long and very frank conversation. I would even say, probably, almost two friends, to the point that, well, lets say , i knew when she was going on vacation. We talked, of course, we didnt just talk about this. We also talk about the crisis of the belarusian opposition, you understand how within this opposition an opposition to the position has formed. Well, everyone is fighting, if not for a place in the sun, then well, at least for their livelihood the belarusian agenda itself in europe has gone no longer even to the second place, probably to the tenth plan, and there everyone is more interested in ukraine, thats where the money goes, well, extra funds. The European Union does not, but the belarusian opposition does. Well, she has no new ideas, so they are already rolling out old ideas, in the second and even in the third circle. So, also in the second round, we are already planning to implement some things, of course, in order to implement a photo strategy today in such a rather difficult situation, it is necessary, as it were resource, Human Resource is also needed , including now a revision of the strategy is needed. I m not sure, its just that the office is ready to reconsider this is the problem, but people seem to see it. This is my my my feeling. Yes people see it. And well, they are probably becoming less and less interested in, maybe the opposition, but because it seems to be involved in such upper levels, or completely internal processes. We discuss our prospects, our issues, the European Union, not the European Union, some international treaties. A little more. I think about a year and a half, and people will have even more disappointments. If there is no result, because it is already clear that e. G. Well, as if thats the case. Eh, more than half the way has been completed. It seems to me that your position, which was formed after the twentieth year with our problem, is that we cannot provide this result and we provide it, it is more likely some kind of quarrel , some kind of internal showdown. Well, that is, here is the result of the work of the previous two years. But my main message was that, for example, something would come there as a ideas and received feedback. They had fear. Eh, as if why come, first of all, as if we ourselves know, huh . Secondly, they were afraid that, as if critics, you feel all the strength to lead this position, in general, in principle, leading the opposition current in belarus is interesting. I mean. You understand the leader to become a new face, because i sat down and feel, well, that is, to me here, uh, like this, uh, and i, it seems to me that i always feel, well, that is, in the twentieth year, including in previous years, they did not arise. You have a conflict. U dont you be afraid of svetlana and me , im not here. This is not a relationship when were just friends there, so uh, i m definitely not afraid of it here. I didnt go into the office in 20 after everything. Well, that is, in principle, my position has always been. Well, uh, as an independent policy. I didnt want to be on the team even in 2020. Well, not everything suits me, like the processes, how they were organized in the same patchwork, there, i dont know who, well, theres not much ability, thats why im on the mountain now. Who has uh in order to become a leader on your own, because, uh, ill voice my position again, because uh, often people are performers, and not bearers of strategy and value. There is a vision or ideas, and this is the problem. And people are higher than, um, what they heard, as if, like the performers, they cannot rise, because this does not exist. Well, people seem to have a slightly broader view, and well, first of all, the belarusian position is actually not much. Unfortunately, i would plot, unfortunately the leaders have grown even 520 years one thing im not honest about is that im not afraid of conflicts. You know, we have the most conflict in our community, alatushka. Uh, with us and how this is the only person he is afraid of is, i, therefore, it seems to me that this also speaks of certain skills. Wait, is kovalkova believing that all those whom one way or another . Uh, created and supported the west after the white maidan of 2020, one way or another , they are politically impotent, they are complete zeros, well , kovalkova and she has been in politics for much longer, she has a lot of experience, which, for example, she does not have tikhonovskaya. These are the kind of feminine things that make kovalkova ready to file down the legs of tikhonovskayas chair. Well, thats what we were talking about, thats what its needed for. The only resource is money, money, so that kovalkova can shoot at the right time. Now kovalkova has 14 people in her team, but she believes that part of tikhanovskayas team is capable of defecting to her camp who, for example, well, there are very pragmatic people. For example, there is evening in the wounds. If people who are ready to support you, i mean from the same team svetlana from the team of that golden girl. Well, here comes the opposition to the national team, which exists today, but in separate parts. Eh, well, i already said, it seems to me, a little bit ago about the fact that in my opinion. And there are a lot of pragmatic people. Well, lettuce, most likely, no, well, heres a franc. Eh, it seems to me that he is quite pragmatic, and this support will depend on whether it will work out here too. Well, again, politics in general makes it risky. To be honest, there is, as it were, an area in which it is impossible to avoid risk. I, by at least, she always got results for herself when she took a risk. Do you even know who kovalkova really is . You know that she is the cochair of the belarusian christian democracy. And this is a russophobic organization. And this is the very organization. She is categorically against it. Uh, union with russia , they a say that any cooperation with russia is any russian investment. This is the collapse of belarusian independence and that automatically in this way belarus becomes, well, the province of pskov and kovalkov cochairman of the russophobic organization, she is ready for her political career to be financed by russian capital. Well , there is only one nuance. The team, well, lets say, the main part of it, with the exception of maybe two or three people. Well, in fact, the whole belarusian position, well, for the rest, they shouldnt know that they are sponsoring kovalkova, as the leader of the russian ruble. And you had some experience, in my opinion, in 2019. Yes, you were part of one, and from an organization that was on the territory of belarus against russian influence, lets say, in 2019, when they discussed integration cards with russia yes, and participated in protests against integration. You are not against russia, we still feel six seven, thats okay, they want complete integration from russia. Tell me, do you want to go. Tomorrow you woke up huge, inshay the sorcerers of ukraine and they are in russia. This is a dead end and ha, and she leaves her dead end without us. We are talking about the fact that financing, one way or another, will be in russian rubles by the russian political elite. Wouldnt this, well, somehow confuse you, i dont see how huge it would be. Uh, problems not all people who can know such information at all, a very small number of people. For example, i see that while they are there they are expressing this negatively to the side. Well, in general, there are some negative aspects that i, for example, notice about some russian ones. No, i didnt say that this is dynamics, to be honest , but it seems to me that the position, the old belarusian as a whole sometimes said this, therefore, if i also observe such trends or something, no matter how all some people are, its just a different matter how people just somehow line up so that it doesnt happen. Well, as if it didnt raise the question. This is a task for me. Its not just how the task is to do it in such a way that it is qualified. Here. Last time you were also touched upon this question of uh party, and christian democracy is christian democracy. Yes you are right. You are still a cochairman there. Yes, as i understand it, well, if its possible, yes somehow , so im on my own yes, but if we talk about the political field of the old parties in belarus well, as if my colleagues, of course, can tell, somehow everything is fine there, but its not great and the field is a lot of things completely different. It will not be the same as it was before the twentieth year. Listen, youre still there. Well, it turns out that one of the leaders is sitting in prison. Paul is in the middle overall. Im ready to give him this project. That is, it turns out that for the sake of financing a political career. Mrs. Kovalkova. She is ready to leave the belarusian christian democracy and at the same time the socalled belarusian position should in no case know that it is being financed by the russian capital right . Well, not only in fact , european sponsors should not know about this either. Wait then, how does this financing happen . Politicians cant make money, i would say so, as if, in principle, no one in the world would support politics as politics and noneuropean funds for politicians. It is not funded by the European Union as a policy . Well, that is, yes, Civil Society initiatives are projects that are aimed at developing education. Oh well, and to hmm lets say avoid this very thing words in politics, that is, to avoid obvious financing of the opposition by strange European Union ones, well, certain funds, certain initiatives, they are registered. Well, lets say such gasket companies, well, conditionally, and into accounts under the guise of programs, for example, educational ones. Well, that was somehow easier for you to try on. Yes, for example, the initiative of belarusian identity and or stimulation of various independent Media Support Civil Society, in the end. And sponsorship money goes into the accounts of these initiative funds. In our case everything should be even more hidden, including from the fiscal authorities of the European Union, that is, the European Union tax office, these are all these structures , they should not know what it means , money is coming in, and that includes russian money, and there is only one way for the faithful here. Well, this is actually a transfer of cash. Maybe there is an opportunity to register. Eh, no organization for the project of our interaction is possible, but, frankly speaking, i dont know how good an option this would be, to be honest, because aand access to 10 is already in poland or in the European Union, the information is here , if you need to provide reports, we are ready to spend the first trans, in principle, already 100,000 euros, and for the initial work, so that you can launch the team now. And the work of translation well, today it is unsafe in the sense that, yes, it can be tracked, of course, the safest, probably the best would be cash. Method of transmission yes, well, last time we, it seems to me, did this as well, in principle, to bring money closer to belarus, that is, we we can bring money conditionally to the border, that is, if someone is ready to drive up , well, yes, well, in belarus. In belarus, of course, you will be satisfied if it is in the russian ruble, because you understand, we have some difficulties with conversion. What will i do with them . Well, that is, in the situation that i am in, it seems to me that this is not an unsuitable option. Well, as i understand it, the Euro Currency is better. Yes, well, yes, if it was, it was more convenient, actually for me for sure. Thank you sasha it was great. We are waiting for a signal from you that the amount of money is ready before the first tranche. But i am very glad that you and i have had such a constructive and rather confidential conversation. I think that everything will work out with you in the future. Have a good day. Kovalkova did not receive any money for six months. She talked to journalists, belarus believed for six months that she was communicating with representatives of the russian oligarchy, that he would invest rubles in her political career and make tikhanov 2. 0 cochairman of the russophobic leoparty ready to receive money from russia, this rate the ideas of the words and in as a sawyer. How kovalkova will pay her influential sponsor at the moment, we are talking about processes such as privatization not today. I mean , in belarus, yes. Naturally, when you come to power. You need to talk specifically, that is, if you are interested in a specific enterprise, like a large businessman, who certainly has an interest in ours. And the chief also wanted, but to participate in that privatization process, yes , under belarus, built with your participation. Well in in particular, and i understand the interest in the petrochemical industry. Thats how we bought a manual president s office to replace the same Office Professional network, and at the same time the enterprise of the belarusian petrochemical industry from what belongs to the state and the people into the hands of a vague foreign oligarch. So, of course, this is broadcast timing. Well , believe me, for six months there have been long hours and revelations at the top of those who call themselves positions in fact of corrupt extremists. Very interesting hours of viewing for the Belarusian Special services are guaranteed such are the morals of the fugitives extremists. The reverse side of the revolution in the opposition 223 with you were ekaterina tikhomirova alexandra khorovets. Vitaly soplitsy. And also a very large team. Until next time. I am happy to come to work and understand that i will produce a product that will bring joy and pleasure to people and bring goodness to everyone in the world. I am sure that my work is the key to peace and creation. As a child, i dreamed of visiting a factory where candy is made. My childhood dream came true and immediately came true as an adult ; it became my profession. This year its been 20 years since ive been working at a communal factory. The factory has changed a lot in 20 years and new workshops have been added. Many new lines have been added. Now it is such a giant that ensures that the Product Market does not stand still, the factory is developing and is thriving. Over the course of 20 years, i have tried myself in many processes. So, then we opened one of our new lines, a modular line. So i got there. Now i work there as an operator and foreman. This is one of our most powerful lines with a capacity of backwater per hour. Its possible to say the workplace is the heart of the line. I am in the very heart of my activities during the work shift. We try the product that casts. Well, of course im trying to limit myself from sweets. Well, its hard, working in a factory and seeing so many delicious, beautiful candies. Its very hard. This is work on yourself all the time. At our factory, every day we have excursions. Children come from school. When they see so many candies, when their eyes talk, and when they want to try everything, they just smile. This joy. How it brings me pleasure when you see such a quantity of sweets, you see them produced every day and you understand that you made an effort. This is your work and that they will go to thousands of families and bring joy and pleasure to people. This is such a product. This is the hormone of happiness, that is, you bring everything positive to me, well, my heart rejoices. In belarus , with the equipment of the riding history of the defense duo, we can be younger in orthodox architecture and near this break, the soul round the day is not characteristic of their sailing to formation Economic Centers of ukraine and live increasingly overpriced people. Some places glasses cities were significant fashion boer. Uh, lunges. The race is almost a long way off. Walked their meaning. It was a collected revolution. Cast iron. Changed, novokol, culturalsvetnitsa project, architecture of belarus, this church has not been lit, and the soviets have pepper or splendor. Uh, temples, spent their landing value in general. This is the complete fiftieth year of some late stalinist classicism, and the disintegration of the belarusians, that this did not happen its enough to come to our capital , forgive us, soul avenue, what is this on our tv channel, secrets, good mood . In general, i came for dumplings and got to meet amazing people on a holiday. I think im happy here. Absolutely, especially when you have been creating this with your own hands for decades, you can already say andrey will cure all diseases. This is a small ranch. By the way, who visited . Everyone likes everything here; the place is the most interesting according to statistics. This is purely my personality being much more active. These are the types of activities found yourself girls, than guys look. Hello, welcome everyone. Whos with us now

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