they practically had to hide it from me cos i wanted to play in the playground with it all day. but i'd say really in high school, i started to experiment with design and really kind of put it to the forefront of what i wanted to do in my career. people in my school, they responded well. they started buying things that i was making, and i did a fashion show. and that's really, i think, what catapulted it being a real career move. what were those early designs like? i was just deconstructing and reconstructing clothes. cutting stuff up, painting on clothes and things like that, and just kind of working with what i had. i understand that your aunt and grandmother were some of your... are some of your biggest fans. oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. my aunt and grandmother, they raised me. and i think i really learned, whether it's like, you know, how to conduct myself in a business setting to just. . .just loving unconditionally. i learned that from those two women. i think all the women in my family, to be honest, we... i've come from what feels like a tribe of warriors. warrior women. right. tell me more about the warrior women. how...? yeah, they just. .. they're not taking any mess. you know, from anyone.