Is it working . Or do we need a drastic rethink . We talk to people on both sides of the debate. The bombing has caused upset right across the country, but how do those who have to investigate it and deal with its aftermath cope . Chief superintendentJohn Sutherland spent years on the front line of policing and will be talking about the toll dealing with such events can take. Hello. Welcome to the programme, were live until 11. 00 this morning. Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about this morning, general Election Campaigning resumes today and ukip will be launching their manifesto. We will be looking at that later in the programme. Bbc news has been told that the police have stopped Sharing Information about the Manchester Bombing with officials in the united states, following a series of leaks thought to have come from the american intelligence community. Last night, the New York Times published photographs apparently showing fragments from the bomb and a backpack used to conceal it. Our correspondent Catrina Renton is in manchester for us. This is a significant developments, what can you tell us . We understand Greater Manchester police are furious about those photographs that have been published apparently of the debris. The American Media, the name Of Salman Abedi was leaked to the American Media just 2a hours after the attack and that irritated the investigation here also. But this publication of the photographs, sensitive and confidential information relates of course to the investigation, has led to them ceasing Sharing Information from here with the americans. Greater Manchester Police have said they hope to resume the normal intelligence relationship soon. But this is an extraordinary and unprecedented move to stop the two way relationship between america and the uk. Apparently it has caused disbelief and astonishment across the british government. Theresa may is expected to raise this with donald trump later today at the nato meeting in brussels. Theres is a very fast moving investigation. Eight people now in custody in relation with this investigation. Nine arrests have been made, eight in the Greater Manchester area, one in warwickshire. One of those arrested yesterday evening, a woman, has now been released. But eight people remain in custody. There have been a series of raids and controlled explosions to try to home in on this network to which salman abedi appears to have been connected. His older brother is still in custody. Also, the more leads this investigation gets, the more work it creates for Police Officers here. So this is an expanding investigation at the moment, rather than it appearing to be more focused. Much more work for Police Officers and they will be feeling absolute frustration at the leaking of those very sensitive pictures that show the debris of the attack. Or are reported to show the debris after the attack. Another thing of course, at 11 oclock, a minutes silence will be observed and we expect the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester police to come here to mark that, to show solidarity with the people of manchester. Thank you very much. We will of course have coverage of the one minutes silence live at 11 oclock. Now time for a summary from the bbc newsroom. Theresa may is to raise concerns with donald trump after evidence from the Manchester Arena bombing was apparently leaked to us media. Uk officials were furious when photos appearing to show debris from the attack appeared in the New York Times. The Prime Minister is expected to raise the issue of the leak with the us president when they meet at a nato summit later. Two more men have been arrested in connection with the Manchester Bombing. One was detained following searches of an address in the withington area of the city, while another was arrested in a part of Greater Manchester that was not disclosed. The new arrests bring the total number of people being held to eight. The suspects older brother is among those in custody in manchester. Two other members of his family have have been detained in libya. Mondays Terror Attack claim 22 victims. So far, 16 have been identified but police say they know the names of all those killed. The latest are 17 year old Chloe Rutherford and her boyfriend liam curry, aged 19, both from south shields. Lisa lees and alison howe had gone to collect their daughters from the concert. Both daughters survived the attack. Lisa and alison were both killed. In royton in oldham, devastated friends have been paying tribute. She was just the best one out of us all. She kept us all grounded. She was just amazing. She was very selfless, did everything for us. Everyone in royton who knows us, knows all of us. We are always together. The loss of alison, Without A Shadow of the doubt, has broken all of us. Since mondays attack, more names and photographs of the victims have been released, heartbreaking stories of lives lost. Kelly brewster was 32 and from sheffield. She died shielding and saving her 11 year old niece from the blast. Saffie roussos was eight, quiet, unassuming, with a creative flair according to her head teacher at Tarleton Community Primary School in lancashire. Saffie comes from a close, loving family, and we can only imagine what theyre going through. Martyn hett was 29. Hes seen here speaking to the bbc in 2015. He was described as wonderful, iconic and beautiful. His brother said his family was heartbroken. Georgina callander had been a fan of Ariana Grande for years, and had met her idol. She was 18 and studying health and social care, planning a career committed to helping others. John atkinson from bury was 28, and also studied health and social care. Friends described him as one in a million, loved by so many, a true gentleman. Michelle kiss was married with three Young Children. In a statement, her family said they were devastated. They said they hoped to draw from the courage and strength she showed in her life to get through this extremely difficult time. Olivia campbell was 15. As a family, were united, were standing strong. I ask her friends, strangers, relatives, to do the same. Please stay together. Dont let this beat any of us. Please, dont let my daughter be a victim. Applause. Just some of the innocent lives, cruelly ended so suddenly. Withers is on north of england reporter, fiona trott. You are at one of the hospitals treating those who were injured. Bring us up to date on how those people are doing . We know 64 people are still being treated in hospital. 20 are in a critical condition. Nine people are being treated at manchester royal infirmary. But we know that 12 casualties, under the age of 16 at manchester Childrens Hospital maxtor. As we heard from tim, families have been confirmed that more people have died in the attacks. 17 have now been named, Chloe Rutherford who was 17 and her boyfriend liam curry and 19 from south shields. An inseparable young couple. Their family launched a social Media Campaign to help find them. They wanted to be together for ever and now they are, their family said. Eileen mcleod, from scotland. The family is devastated and words cannot express how they feel. We have learned about more parents who lost their lives who were waiting for their children after the concert. One of them was on duty female Police Officer. She has not yet been named and her husband is critically ill and their two children are also injured. We are due to get an update from the trust later this morning. Fiona trott, thank you very much. Ariana grandes concerts at londons O2 Arena On Thursday and friday have been cancelled following the manchester suicide bombing. A statement said the us singers dangerous woman tour would be suspended until seven june. Suspended until 7th june. It added that grande, 23, wanted to pay proper respects to those lost. Grandes management said. Our way of life has once again been threatened but we will overcome this together. Manchester united have dedicated their victory in last nights Europa League final to the victims of the attack. Thousands of fans travelled to stockholm to watch the match, which was an emotional affair, on and off the pitch. This is for manchester. This is whats happened, over there, weve come and given this performance, this is for manchester. Everybody in manchester, this is for us. It was very emotional because of what happened in manchester. It was showing people how we are still united. A very emotional night, to be honest with you. Im still feeling that. Sorry, i cant speak. It shows that we can come together as a city and a nation and show our spirit, that well not be beaten like that. In other news, the ukip leader, paul nuttall, will unveil his partys manifesto today, marking a return to campaigning for the general election. Mr nuttall said further delay would let the terrorists win. He said ukip will, in his words, identify the problem in communities in a way that other parties are unwilling to do. All the other parties are resuming their National Campaigns tomorrow but some local activities such as delivering leaflets will begin again today. With us now is our assistant Political Editor norman smith what do expect from ukip today. What do expect from Ukip Todaym Isa what do expect from ukip todaym is a big day to pull fairly serious nosedive. Paul nuttall will try to a nswer nosedive. Paul nuttall will try to answer questions by setting out the post brexit agenda. He will try to present ukip as a proud, patriotically, willing to confront issues he says of the parties will not face up to. Around immigration and integration. We know on the integration agenda date are suggesting policies like banning the burqa, ending the role of sharia courts, putting a halt to further Islamic State schools being built. And on immigration, a tougher line, suggesting there should be zero net immigration into this country and a com plete immigration into this country and a complete ban on all non skills, unskilled workers coming in. The question is, whether any of that will be sufficient to win back those voters who appeared to be deserting the party in droves, because they seem to be banking now on theresa may to deliver brexit. Norman, thank you. Researchers have warned that conservative plans to offer every Primary School child in england a free breakfast could cost three times more than the £60 million the party has estimated. Independent experts from Education Datalab Say the tory figure is based on a scheme with a low take up rate, where food was donated and no Staffing Costs were included. The conservatives are standing by their estimate. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news more at 9. 30. In a moment we will be finding out more about the decision by Greater Manchester police to stop Sharing Intelligence with us officials and what the likely impact of that decision will be. It is unprecedented, so we will be talking much more about that. First lets get some sport with holly hamilton. Holly, an emotional night for Manchester United but they still managed to win the Europa League. It was always going to be an emotional event, given what happened this week. The players walked onto the pitch with black bands. And minutes silence in the ground. Then paul pogba scored in the 18th minute. And then this. You can see what this means to the players and the jose what this means to the players and theJose Mourinho. What this means to the players and the Jose Mourinho. It what this means to the players and theJose Mourinho. It makes them the most decorated club in europe and Jose Mourinho made a managerial history. You could see him running onto the pitch and celebrating. Afterwards he said the team had been deeply affected by the events in manchester this week. We just come to do ourjob. We had the happiness we should bring with us. When you go to these big matches, you go proud. We didnt, we just come to do our job. The boys were fantastic because they block, they put a wall in front of their eyes and they stay isolated from everything and we focused on the match. Which we played really well. This puts Manchester United back where they want to be, back in the champions league. But perhaps last night was notjust the champions league. But perhaps last night was not just about football, of course. How weather fa ns football, of course. How weather fans reacting . You could tell the fa ns were fans reacting . You could tell the fans were subdued at the beginning of the night. They werent sure whether or not they were supposed to be cheering and celebrating. Obviously given the events this week. We have the ajax fans who were singing. Manchester united fans sitting down, not sure what they we re sitting down, not sure what they were supposed to be doing. It was only when the match began and the players arrived and the minutes silence the place but the fans started to come alive. The banner branded with those words, manchester, a city united, summed up how those fans are feeling. It brought everyone together. Those we re brought everyone together. Those were incredible scenes and then a tweet from manchester city, obviously coming from manchester, you will know people are in two camps, and this was a night when both teams came together, which was summarised by that tweet last night. This is a situation where football can bring people together. That banner that was in the crowd last night really summed up how people felt. There was just a perfect example of a city, and how football really ca n example of a city, and how football really can bring people together in a situation like this. Thank you very much, holly. Police investigating the Manchester Arena bomb attack have stopped Sharing Information with us officials, after leaks to the media, the bbc has been told. Uk investigators were outraged when photos appearing to show debris from the attack appeared in the latest edition of the New York Times. Our Security Correspondent Frank Gardners here, also lee doddridge, former officer at the National Counter Terrorism Security office is in cardiff. And we arejoined by ben owen, a former m15 officer in manchester. Frank, is this completely unprecedented . No, its not. The us beltway around washington is notoriously leaky, and likewise in new york. It is always far easier to get wood should be closely held sometimes almost classified information out of the us than it is out of the uk, so the security is much better actually in london, in whitehall. And its frustrating, because as a journalist, i will have editors and the past saying why arent you getting this stuff . Because the us is leaky. In this particular case this is actually really dangerous. This is an ongoing operation. Lets not beat around the bush, they are hunting for a bomb factory, for a guy who has possibly produced more devices like the one that was used in manchester. They are ina that was used in manchester. They are in a race against time to find that. The last thing they want is the namely doubt so that people can be warned is the name leaked out so be warned is the name leaked out so that people can be warned and possibly scape. Now the whole methodology has been laid out there and it is incredibly this respectful to the families of the victims. Lee doddridge, what impact did you think this leak will have . For one, it is an unwanted distraction from the enquiry. We need to be focused on who produced the result of their is any more out there. We dont want the distraction of having these issues with our american counterparts. When we Share Intelligence through the five eyes network, we are the originators and owners of that intelligence and it is theirto owners of that intelligence and it is their to help them, not for them to abuse and disseminate from there. As frank quite rightly said, it is a very leaky system in america and i think it is the right decision to stop any sharing of intelligence. Ben owen, who gets to make the call on what intelligence is shared, because it sounds like this decision has come directly from Greater Manchester police . You might think a decision would be made at a higher level. It is eyes looked at on a case by case level. It is eyes looked at on a case by case basis, but if the intelligence is key to an investigation it has always looked on, that keeps citizens of the five Eyes Community and are sometimes wider safe, that information will be shared. I can think in 2006, the airline plot, operation overt, which was the investigation into trying to thwart the net of east london networking blowing up aircraft. This was a british investigation. We were sharing lots and lots of Key Information with the american intelligence agencies. They wanted to finish this investigation, arrest everyone , because to finish this investigation, arrest everyone, because it was over us airspace where the attack was planned for. The British Intelligence services to not want to, they wanted to insure we rounded everyone up, make sure to, they wanted to insure we rounded everyone up, make sure we to, they wanted to insure we rounded everyone up, make sure we did not miss any individual in this key network, which could have been broader. They took it upon themselves to arrest them overseas, which forced the british Law Enforcement services into arresting this network early, the risk being that we didnt identify every key individual. Lee doddridge, what would the usb of sharing the information of what has been happening in manchester with the Us Security Services . That is a very good question because there is obviously pertinent parts of the investigation they would want to share. If we are trying to establish if there is a Wider Network, by sharing certain parts of information, it may well link into what the us authorities already have. When we look at all makers, when they put devices together, it is almost like they leave their own individual fingerprint on it, they all have their own quirky ways of designing and using certain materials. So by sharing the intelligence they may well feedback to us and say we have found a similar device, baby at another crime scene in syria, so we share that. It widens and greatly enhances out that. It widens and greatly enhances our chance of finding more information. Frank. Donald trump is in brussels, we can see pictures of him attending a nato meeting today. The government has made clear, theresa may will be having a conversation with donald trump. The indications are that this leak hasnt come from the white house, though, it has come from Us Intelligence sources. Thats correct, the white house is effectively travelling with donald trump, they are with him, in a suitcase, as it were. This has come from the enormous multibillion dollar Us Intelligence community, and they have 16 different agencies. Homeland security, dia, cia, fbi, you name it. It could be any one of those agencies that has leaked this. You said they are leaky, why, what with the incentive be in leaking these . These are powers, they have pals in the media, there is something called the media, there is something called the bay the beltway that goes around washington, people come out and have dinner with each other and they are not as cautious as officials are in the uk. There is a whole community of part time spooks oi whole community of part time spooks or intelligence people in the states who are on contract to perhaps finish their careers but stay on on contract, and they talk to journalists more than people do over here. The reason quite apart from the present moment that this particular manhunt, bomb hunt, the reason why this is really kind of risky is that this is going down a slippery slope. Because if Greater Manchester police is understandably saying we dont trust you any more, because we give you intelligence and you go and splash it all over the media, then the us is quite likely to do the same, or they could do the same. And britain needs american intelligence, not on this particular investigation but the next one coming down the line. To be fair, has it happened in the other direction, has there been a leak here . Yes, there have been. Whether Us Intelligence communities expressed their extreme displeasure that something has got out into the media that they have shared. Like i remember what it was but there was something a few years back. So it works both ways. Remember, Us Intelligence gathering capacity is many times bigger than any other country in the world, including the uk. The nsa for a start, National Security agency, has petabytes of capability to hoover up stuff that britain couldnt match. Ben owen, so how to fix this issue of leaky nurse, because it is clearly critical it is fixed. Yes, it is critical, as is the threat state at the moment. We really need to go back to the Drawing Board with this, this is happening all too often. As frank says, it works both ways as well, so we both need to get better at this. What we cant continue doing with the threat we all face today, at uk and us and broader, we cannot continue doing this. This information was critical to keep sensitive, in the Network Investigation to identify key individuals. It cannot continue. We need to go back to the Drawing Board and have some very frank conversations across the pond, and try and get this fixed as soon as possible. Lee doddridge, what do you think the wider impact of all this could be . I think it could be very wired, if we dont get a hold on the situation quite quickly. As everyone has said, we need a review on how we share the intelligence, but also how we secure the intelligence once it has been shared. For a number of years it has taken on trust as well, but we do have caveats, and we need to go back to the Drawing Board, and look at how we can move forward from this. And we will have other investigations, unfortunately that isjust the case. We need to make sure that when we do Share Intelligence, we have to keep doing that, that there are more controls around it. Ben, earlier in the week, we heard initially actually from france about some of the abedi movements, the revelation that he had been travelling to syria. That is an indication of where and how the Intelligence Sharing is valuable and the impact it can have. Absolutely correct. The Intelligence Sharing that the us and the uk have is crucial, we cant cut it off, that would be devastating for the uk, for our interests. We have to keep that flow of intelligence going. It is absolutely key. Syria, libya and elsewhere, a lot of the volume of that will come from cia and nsa. So we need to keep this going. We need to be honest with ourselves, and agree and accept that the continuation of Intelligence Sharing has to continue. But as lee said, we need to progress look at how we share that information and secure how we share that information and secure it when it is shared. That is the key, not the broader Intelligence Sharing scenario. For now, Greater Manchester police saying they wont share, how do you envisage that proceeding from here . Will all the information just be kept within the force . |j will all the information just be kept within the force . I think that maybe today the way Manchester Police want to move forward, but i think also then the wider agencies, Intelligence Services within the uk, will probably assist Greater Manchester, physically hold too much back it could hinder the enquiry itself. So maybe the Snap Decision to do that, but we need to look at it and need to get these channels open as soofi as it and need to get these channels open as soon as possible because there may well be a piece of intelligence that the us has too unable that we have everyone here in the uk accounted for. Credit already have damaged the investigation . dont want to speculate at the moment. We wont know until the Enquiry Moves forward. Thank you very much, lee doddridge, ben owen and Frank Gardner in the studio, and we will be talking to you again frank, about abedi and his background. A lot more information coming on about him and his wider contacts. Also coming up, we will be examining the governments prevent Anti Terrorism programme yet again under scrutiny. Is it working, does it need beefing up or do we need a drastic rethink . Let us the thoughts on that. Also a big night for the clu b on that. Also a Big Night For The Club atan on that. Also a Big Night For The Club at an even bigger nights of the city. That is whats David Beckham had to say about Manchester Uniteds victory in the route the league last night. We will talk to one fan who was there. Now to anita for a summary from the bbc newsroom. Bbc news has been told that the uk has stopped Sharing Information with the united states. Last night the New York Times published photographs a p pa re ntly New York Times published photographs apparently showing fragments from the bomb and a backpack used to conceal it. Greater Manchester Police hope to resume normal Intelligence Sharing relationship 0011. Theresa may is to raise concerns with donald trump after the evidence from the Manchester Bombing was lea ked from the Manchester Bombing was leaked to the us media. President trump is in nato today where he has been meeting donald tusk. The Prime Minister is expected to raise the issue with him at the summit later. Meanwhile. Two more men have been arrested in connection with the Manchester Bombing. One was detained following searches of an address in the withington area of the city, while another was arrested in a part of Greater Manchester that was not disclosed. The new arrests bring the total number of people being held to eight. The suspects older brother is among those in custody in manchester. Two other members of his family have have been detained in libya. Ariana grandes concerts at londons O2 Arena On Thursday and friday have been cancelled following the manchester suicide bombing. A statement said the us singers dangerous woman tour would be suspended until 7th june. It added that grande wanted to pay proper respects to those lost. Grandes management said. Our way of life has once again been threatened but we will overcome this together. Manchester united have dedicated their victory in last nights Europa League final to the victims of the attack. Thousands of fans travelled to stockholm to watch the match, which was an emotional affair, on and off the pitch. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news more at 10. 00 now lets join now letsjoin holly for now lets join holly for the sport. Manchester united beat ajax 2 0 to win the final of the Europa League. It was enough jose win the final of the Europa League. It was enouthose mourinhos side as they ensure their qualification for the champions league. Manchester was a city united last night. Fans came together to offer support for the families who lost loved ones in the families who lost loved ones in the atrocity at the Manchester Arena on monday evening. Englands cricketers have begun their preparation for the icc trophy with victory over south africa at headingley in the first of 31 day matches. Jenson button says he is the luckiest guy to be back in formula 1 for the monaco grand prix. The former World Champion replaces Fernando Alonso at mclaren whilst the spaniard races the indy 500. I will have more at ten oclock. Weve been learning more about the bomber salman abedi. Its known he was born here in manchester to libyan parents who came to britain as refugees from the regime of colonel gaddafi. Abedi was for a time a student at the university of salford. Its also known that hed travelled to libya and returned a few days before the attack. His father and a younger brother have now been detained in libya. Speaking just before he was detained, salman abeidis father ramadan gave an interview in libya defending himself and his son. Our Security Correspondent Frank Gardner is here now. Lets pick up on that point, his father and younger brother arrested in libya, what can you tell us about the arrest . That was ramadan abedi, the arrest . That was ramadan abedi, the father Of Salman Abedi, and he is in typical denial. We saw that from the father of the nice truck driver who mowed down people in france last year. No parent wants to admit their son is a mass murderer, but that is the situation here. Salman abedi is a mass murderer. Was, he is dead. That is his father, saying no, he didnt do it, this is the Security Services persecuting the Security Services persecuting the Libyan Community in manchester. He has been arrested by a Counterterrorist Unit Of A Militia In Libya that is part of the un recognised government. Libya is a mess and it hasnt got one sovereign government in charge of the country. It isa government in charge of the country. It is a lot of different fiefdoms who dont recognise each other. The place is awash with weapons, explosives and ammunition. It is a basket case, unfortunately. It is sad because it should be a success story. There is a big expat Libyan Community who has grown up in manchester. Someone to fight in libya in 2011, not exactly with the blessing of the british government, but they didnt object because they we re but they didnt object because they were overthrowing colonel gaddafi. Most of them came back and nothing happened. But a small number did go to syria and there is a recruiter allegedly linked to this family who was involved with sending Libyan Mancunians to syria. What is emerging about the network potentially around salman abedi . They are using the word network. I think it is too grand a word. It may only be won or two people. But early only be won or two people. But early on in the investigation, they reached the conclusion that the sophistication of the device meant it could not have just been done by one person. Whoever did this new about chemical compounds, how did they acquired the materials without raising suspicion . What are we in the media didnt know, but i imagine the media didnt know, but i imagine the forensic people, at the government laboratories, will probably know whether this explosive is locally sourced, home made, some kind of organic phosphate or Military Grade Explosive that has come from overseas or stolen from a military barracks in somewhere like libya. We dont know yet. Thank you very much. Ijust want libya. We dont know yet. Thank you very much. I just want to say the 18th victim has been named. It is wendy who was 50. The latest name we have been told is wendy fawell. Well, since it was revealed that monday nights Attacker Salman Abedi was born and bred in manchester, its raised familiar questions about home grown terrorism and what can be done to stop it. The governments existing strategy called prevent which aims to stop Vulnerable People from being radicalised is yet again under scrutiny. Is it working . Does it need beefing up . Or do we need a drastic rethink . Well be discussing this in a moment but first our report catrin nye can remind us what the prevent strategy is. Well, the strategy is one part of the government counterterrorism strategy. After the london bombings, there was extra funding, tens of millions of pounds over a number of yea rs. Millions of pounds over a number of years. This is the home of this definition, to stop people becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism. It isa terrorists or supporting terrorism. It is a pre emptive part of the counterterrorism strategy, trying to stop people causing harm before they have done it. That why it is difficult to measure. It helps explain why it can be controversial. In practice, what does it involve . There are lots of parts of prevent. Some things are like workshops in schools, going and talking to children about extremism, Extremist Groups and teaching them Critical Thinking skills, so teaching them how to cope if they are confronted with those extremist ideas. I have a video which shows a prevent session ina video which shows a prevent session in a school in leicester. This was filmed before what happened in manchester. We have tried every other way. This is important, 44 civilians. we have tried every other way. This is important, 44 civilians. I was frightened that if i continued with this particular group, i would be raising a monster. They see themselves as part of an army. Raising a monster. They see themselves as part of an armyfi just so happened that extreme group targeted them just at the right moment in their life and they left. It can happen to anybody. At the more severe end, you have channel, 121 mentoring. Perhaps they have joined a group, or thinking of travelling to syria. Also, in 2015, it became a statutory duty for schools and other places where young people are educated to prevent people are educated to prevent people from being drawn into terrorism, prevent became a duty. Why is it so controversial . Prevent has been controversial since the very start. One of the reasons is, it has been accused of being a spying programme. Some teachers have complained, because they have to keep an eye on the views of their pupils, students, that means they are doing the work of the Security Services. Also it can limit free speech. Some academic teachers again at other people argue in a place like a school or university, young people should be able to say things that are controversial and they should be able to criticise the government and Foreign Policy without worrying they might be reported to prevent. The other criticism is about stigmatising communities. A lot of the effort and money behind prevent is directed at the Muslim Community and that has been accused of Stigmatising Muslims and also alienating people. What our politicians saying . We do have an election coming up and the parties dont agree. Labour want to review prevent, whether it is effective or alienating people. The conservatives have said they want to uplift prevent, put more money into it because they argue it is working. 0k, because they argue it is working. Ok, thank you very much. Lots to talk about. Well, we can now speak to hifsa iqbal in stoke. Hifsa works for the Prevent Programme, going into colleges and universities around the West Midlands. Khalid mahmood joins us from birmingham, where hes been an mp for many years and is standing again for the labour party. Zubeda limbada is the director of connect futures, thats an independent think tank which works alongside Police Forces and communities to tackle radicalisation, she joins us via webcam from birmingham. And in the studio we have Miqdaad Versi from the Muslim Councilfor britain. Thank you forjoining us. You believe prevent is flawed, why is that . I think the views of many people in Broader Society have demonstrated they have serious concerns about prevent. We have talked about there being serious and long lasting damage to Young Children as a result of prevent, a view shared by the conservative party. There is a broad understanding that when it comes to Young Children in school, the way many of them feel stigmatised, particularly muslim students, not being able to do what they will normally do, their parents are telling them not to say certain things in school. It stigmatising them from a young age and treats them from a young age and treats them as a potential security threat. You are saying some people could be radicalised as a result of prevent . Thejunk radicalised as a result of prevent . The Junk Committee for human rights has said it risks being counter productive. Has said it risks being counterproductive. Do you think it is counter productive . counterproductive. Do you think it is counterproductive . I think there is counterproductive . I think there isa is counterproductive . I think there is a risk of it, no one can know for sure. Nobody wants to create unnecessary damage. What matters is that people do feel alienated. There are many different people across different societies, different human rights groups, who are concerned. We need engagement from the government in muslim communities, rather than talking at them, but talking to them. You do go into schools and colleges, what is your view when you hear this being said that it is counter productive, potentially . Good morning. Iwork counter productive, potentially . Good morning. I work specifically with colleges and universities in the West Midlands region. As your reporter said initially, prevent is about safeguarding, it is about protecting young people who are vulnerable for all sorts of reasons and could potentially be radicalised and could potentially be radicalised and taken down the route of supporting terrorism or committing terrorist atrocities themselves. I am concerned about what your guest says because my experience working in colleges and universities is different. Some of the reports that have come out in relation to prevent and how people feel, some of the cases that have been quoted have had nothing to do with prevent. They have been specific issues around safeguarding. Sorry to interrupt that i want to get down to the nitty gritty of what you do and whether you have come across people who have changed their views, who were potentially going down one path and you have seen a change of perspective as a result of the common sessions you have been having . The common sessions i have specifically within the colleges and universities tend to be on the whole with staff. It is about having an understanding, sorry my earpiece is falling out, about having an understanding of what these vulnerabilities are. It is not my job to go into the colleges all universities to sport or pick up these vulnerabilities, because i dont know the young people, i dont know the situation, or where necessarily these individuals are coming from. Myjob is specifically about explaining vulnerabilities and how the universities and colleges need to understand those vulnerabilities and then support the individuals. You work alongside Police Forces and communities to tackle radicalisation, what do you believe is the best way . tackle radicalisation, what do you believe is the best way . I think we have to take a middle ground approach. Mcdowell has rightly expressed concerns, but that same time as an organisation we took a protracted approach, we have been working with both students and staff in schools about how we strengthen Critical Thinking, how in schools about how we strengthen criticalthinking, how we in schools about how we strengthen Critical Thinking, how we get young people to engage around topics of extremism and radicalisation, giving them practical skills. Who do they talk to in schools, do they talk to their teachers, how do they address online radicalisation, sol their teachers, how do they address online radicalisation, so i think with prevent we need to take that middle ground of understanding where kids concerns are. We have to understand why people in the Muslim Community are feeling concerned but at the same time when we go into schools and communities, we know that there is a problem of far right radicalisation. We know that the narratives of each side, islamist and far right groups, feed into one another. People want the practical aspects and politicians need to engage effectively because i do think that although the prevent strategy has been in place and since 2007, the grassroots engagement, both needing gauging with as well. So when we go into schools, assemblies are really important as a way of communicating, and we provide that training. Khaled mahmud, you area that training. Khaled mahmud, you are a politician, there are divided views among politicians about whether prevent needs to be Com Pletely Whether Prevent needs to be completely rethought or whether new resources need to go into it. Do you believe that Terror Attacks have been prevented as a result of prevent, people have stopped going down a particular path because of the intervention of prevent. There are certain groups in birmingham who have said they have been able to pull people back from taking a much more radical route by the support given to them through the Prevent Programme they have run. So there is evidence based issues in birmingham that have managed to do that. I think the real issue here is twofold, it and education, where at the moment we have a duty in terms of Child Protection. If it is child abuse or a cse case going on, then the colleges, universities and the schools are perfectly legitimate to look at that. If the same thing applies to somebody being radicalised, then people are saying no, they shouldnt be doing that. This is a bit of a red herring here. This is a bit of a red herring here. This is a purely Child Protection issue and in that respect i dont think it should be a problem. Where theissue think it should be a problem. Where the issue also lies about the General Community based prevent. There are issues i said all along we need to address. But the Muslim Council of britain needs to come out and say if they are unhappy with this, what will we do . We need people to come out and say if they are not happy with these sort of issues, lets change this and do something about it. There are changes that need to be made to prevent but at the same time this is the process we have got. If we dont engage with it there are summiteers who can do things that we dont like. If you dont like what is happening at the moment, come forward and say to the politicians, say to us, there are issues we want to engage in, i think at the moment prevent deals with much smaller organisations, what we need to do is engage with the mainstream of the Muslim Community to deal with that. I think there should be helpline set up i think there should be helpline set up both in the way that young people need to approach and have access to those people, a helpline. Something we have in birmingham with the Muslims In The Uk network. That headline which is about Domestic Violence and other issues that they wa nt to violence and other issues that they want to discuss with people, a lot of issues of radicalisation comes through that as well. One thing feeds into another. I want to pick up feeds into another. I want to pick up on all those points with you but ijust want up on all those points with you but i just want to pause for a moment from this conversation just to bring the very sad news that another victim of the Manchester Bombing has just been named. It is a Cheshire Police officer, helene macgyver. Her family have Herfamily Have her family have said she would want us her family have said she would want us to carry on regardless and not be frightened. A Brief Statement has been put out saying that elaine was a much loved daughter, sister and colleague. She was everyones friend, thoughtful beyond belief with an effervescent and outgoing personality. She would have been devastated by the injuries sustained by her partner, paul. Elaine loved life and had a major love of music. Despite what has happened to her she would want us all to carry on regardless and not be frightened. Instead she regularly barged us all to rise up against it. We know she will live in our hearts forever. So Elaine Mciver has been named in the past few moments, the 19th victim to be named of the manchester attack. Just a few moments ago, we also brought you the details of the 18th victim to be named today. Wendy fall from otley. She is 50 and was name just a few moments ago. I think we can now bring you a picture of Elaine Mciver. There she is. Cheshire Police Officer, killed in the Manchester Bombing. Herfamily have said despite what has happened to her, she would want us all to carry on regardless and not be frightened by fear tactics. Instead she regularly urged us all to rise up she regularly urged us all to rise up against it. We will miss her beyond belief, but she will live in our hearts forever. So, 19 victims of the attacks have been name, the absolute priority has been for the police and those around them supporting them. Let me come back to you, khalid mahmud, you are talking about the responsibility of communities. It is often said it is not policing that defeat terrorism, it is communities. When we look at what happened here, and we now know that salman abedi was actually reported. A hotline was called to say that there were concerns around his behaviour. He had said he was supportive of terrorism, he didnt see anything wrong with being a Suicide Bomber. That was exactly the right thing. Yes, first of all, my condolences to elaine and my to elaine and her family. Condolences to elaine and my to elaine and herfamily. They condolences to elaine and my to elaine and her family. They have been significant Security Failures in relation to this particular individual and all of those need to be looked at. That needs to be addressed as well very strongly once an investigation is out of the way and we ask real questions as to why that was allowed to happen and why thoseissues that was allowed to happen and why those issues have not been picked up about the security forces. So that isa about the security forces. So that is a real issue. But what well so have to look at clearly Going Forward is what role all of us plays, the community plays, and you have had europe or the early onset thing about the victimisation of the Muslim Community. You have had your reporter saying about the issue of the victimisation of the Muslim Community. There are a small number of people who are being radicalised to the degree that they are prepared to the degree that they are prepared to ta ke to the degree that they are prepared to take other peoples lives. In my constituency, sorry, in birmingham, we looked at that area where there we re we looked at that area where there were Afro Caribbean riots from 1985 onwards. We did not stigmatise them, with the port of them, to the point now when the last time these issues we supported them. Those are the things we can change. What you have to do is acknowledge there is an issue, the community has to deal with it and then move forward. Without doing that you cant move forward. Mick dowd, what is the most positive way of moving forward . One of the biggest things is about engagement. We need to have Cross Community engagement on this issue. At the moment, david anderson, one of the most senior people on this topic on me was talking about how it is extraordinary that the government is extraordinary that the government is not doing more organisation with the Muslim Councillor britain. He found it quite unusual. I think that is really what we need now, we need to get trust. Throughout the prevent . It is an independent review, if certain things are going well, the Muslim Community should see we are going well, and they are likely to buy into it if they have confidence and there is an independent scrutiny of this and their views are being heard and understood. I think it is all about trust here. We all want to keep ourselves safe and secure. That works two ways, the trust has to be both sides and they need to work with each other to do that, not finger pointing age side. With each other to do that, not fingerpointing age side. And you can see when the government introduces legislation, we put forward a response to that with ideas of how to move forward. We reached at quite extensively on a range of different topics. We raised a Numberof Range of different topics. We raised a number of concerns. All of those things, we are truly are in gauging as much as possible. Thank you all. Manchester united have dedicated last nights Europa League victory to the victims of mondays attack in the city. The club beat ajax 2 0 in stockholm, and afterwards tweeted a photo of a Banner Reading manchester a city united. Players and fans observed a minutes silence at the start of the match in tribute to those who killed with both teams also wearing black armbands. Thousands of supporters travelled to sweden to watch the match after the game former united player David Beckham tweeted this. Thousands of supporters travelled to sweden to watch the match but lets first heres some reaction from former united player, phil neville. I think the emotion in the stadium was fantastic. We are all emotionally drained. Our thoughts are still with those people who lost their lives, that is to our hearts and prayers are with the night but it has been a wonderful night for Manchester United. it has been a wonderful night for Manchester United. I think tonight isa Manchester United. I think tonight is a night that will mean so much, and for Manchester United, we have seen and for Manchester United, we have seen real northern soul tonight. Studio lets talk now to jo, a man utd fan who was at last nights match in stockholm. Thank you forjoining us, what was the atmosphere like for you . The atmosphere was absolutely incredible La St Atmosphere was absolutely incredible last night. As people have said, a really bittersweet night in stockholm. The atmosphere throughout the day was amazing the fans were united in their solidarity with us, in what they were saying about the atrocity On Monday Night in manchester. A couple even said we hope united win. Within the stadium it was incredible. It is a Football Match, clearly it has a residence for many beyond football. Going to a Football Match immediately after what happened, how did you feel about that . Being honest with you, i found it very difficult. I felt like everybody from this city and more widely, very emotional after what happened. I was still awake and up when the news broke late On Monday Night. I didnt really sleep, and thenl night. I didnt really sleep, and then i was finding myself getting up at five oclock in the morning to pack and come to stockholm, and i did think twice about coming and i knew that the atmosphere would be very difficult. But equally, the coming together has meant something, and the bonding of all of the fans over what has happened. Thank you for joining over what has happened. Thank you forjoining us, jo. All the latest reaction and news coming up of you injust a few moments, but now the weather with simon. We have had the warmest day of the year so far yesterday, 26. 6 The Green Celsius was recorded yesterday. Today will be even warmer, if not hotter across many parts of the uk. Many of us woke up to some sunshine just like this in milton keynes. But it is not everywhere. We have some fog around the irish sea coasts. Parts of northern ireland, south and west scotland. Here in welshpool, the sheep enjoying that fog of the moment but the fault will gradually clear away. We are looking at some sunshine the fog will gradually clear away. It will be very warm if not hot as we go through the afternoon. A bit of cloud will develop here and there. Also that fog gradually clearing. Much more sunshine across scotland compared yesterday. This is where we might see some of the highest temperatures today. 28 or 29 celsius. Even the central belt, temperatures widely into the mid 20s. Sunshine from northern ireland, eventually in the isle of man and elsewhere we will see some fair weather cloud building up. Look at those temperatures, 25 to 28 celsius across the South East Of England during this afternoon. It is worth bearing in mind that the uv levels are high, if not very high, across parts of the south west during this afternoon, so factor that in a few are out and about. For the rest of this evening, little change, there will be some clear skies taking us into friday morning. It will be another warm and humid night, temperatures now lower really than about 14, 16, 17 celsius into friday morning. So a very warm start the day and actually on friday it will be a hot day compared to today. More sunshine. Not much in a way of fog tomorrow, so we get away with a sunny start around the irish sea coasts but those temperatures really starting to build up tomorrow. 28, 29, perhaps touching 30 in western scotland. Elsewhere as well, the temperatures in the mid to high 20s. As they go into saturday, a hot and humid start, look at this Weather Front coming in from the west. As it hits that hot air, we are going to seize and heavy showers, some thunderstorms as well. Those thunderstorms as well. Those thunderstorms working their way further north and east. Still quite hot in central and eastern areas, 25, 28, but fresher as though showers pushed through. Going into sunday and bank oliver, hot and humid to start. There will be a thundery breakdown on saturday. Fresher conditions will follow. Hello its 10 oclock, im joanna gosling. Two more victims have been named this morning, a Elaine Mciver, an off Duty Police Officer and 50 year old wendy fawell from otley. You saw the best of Greater Manchester yesterday. I was in the hospitals last night and i was Hearing Stories about porters, cleaners, nurses, surgeons came in to help out. The public where bringing in food and the public did pull together and we should take a great deal of pride in that. We will speak to a woman who started a fundraising we will speak to a woman who started aFundraising Campaign we will speak to a woman who started a Fundraising Campaign and a nurse who helped the victims in the middle of the night. Chief superintendent John Sutherland has spent years in front line policing and he will talk about coping with the after effect. After a pause in political campaigning following the bomb attack on monday, ukip are launching their manifesto later this morning. Our political guru norman smith will be live from the launch for us. Good morning. Here is annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. Bbc news has been told that the police have stopped Sharing Information about the Manchester Bombing with officials in the united states, following a series of leaks thought to have come from the american intelligence community. Last night, the New York Times published photographs apparently showing fragments from the bomb and a backpack used to conceal it. Our correspondent Catrina Renton is in manchester for us. What more can you tell us . The uk and the us often Share Intelligence on these kind of matters. To have stopped doing this is significant and shows just how angry british officials are. Officers say they hope to resume normal intelligence religion ship soon. Let me give you the latest on the investigation. Eight men now are in custody in relation to the attack. This is a fast moving investigation with new lines of investigation with new lines of investigation coming forward. Officers have a lot of work to do to focus in on that network that salman abedi is believed to have been in. And of course the minutes silence due to be observed at 11 oclock, with chief comes to ian hopkins leading the tribute to the people of manchester here. Thank you very much. Two more who died in the attack have been named. Elaine mciver, who was a Police Officer in the Cheshire Police officer in the Cheshire Police force, was killed in the bombing and 50 year old wendy fawell also died in the attack. Theresa may is to raise concerns with donald trump after evidence from the Manchester Arena bombing was apparently leaked to us media. President trump is in brussels today, ahead of a nato summit, where hes been meeting European Council leader donald tusk. The Prime Minister is expected to raise the issue of the leak with him at that summit later. With us now is damian grammaticas. There is a lot of anger in the uk about this leaking of intelligence. Yes there is, it is something theresa may will be expressing the donald trump we understand when they meet at Nato Headquarters this afternoon. The name of the Suicide Bomber was released. The pictures from the attack scene were released, all from american sources, information that had come from uk police. We know that uk police in manchester say they are not sharing any more information. That is not something that has come from the government itself, and the wider Intelligence Sharing doesnt seem to be affected. But the concern is this could be having an impact, the leaks could be having an impact, the leaks could well be having an impact, particularly on the Police Investigation in manchester, efforts to investigate the Wider Network and prevent to investigate the Wider Network and p reve nt a ny to investigate the Wider Network and prevent any other possible plots that might be under way. So that is something theresa may will raise with donald trump. At the same time, she and he, im sure, will be joining this call for nato as a whole tojoin joining this call for nato as a whole to join the anti isas coalition, and that is something we should see nato leaders together sign up to this afternoon, the organisationjoining in sign up to this afternoon, the organisation joining in the anti isas efforts. Not in any way in any sort of Combat Efforts in syria but providing support, logistics, training to iraqi forces, that sort of thing. Damien grammaticas in brussels. Two more men have been arrested in connection with the Manchester Bombing. One was detained following searches of an address in the withington area of the city, while another was arrested in a part of Greater Manchester that was not disclosed. The new arrests bring the total number of people being held to eight. The suspects older brother is among those in custody in manchester. Two other members of his family have have been detained in libya. Ariana grandes concerts at londons O2 Arena On Thursday and friday have been cancelled following the manchester suicide bombing. A statement said the us singers dangerous woman tour would be suspended until 7th june. It added that grande, 23, wanted to pay proper respects to those lost. Grandes management said. Our way of life has once again been threatened but we will overcome this together. Manchester united have dedicated their victory in last nights Europa League final to the victims of mondays Terror Attack. Thousands of fans travelled to stockholm to watch the match, which was a highly emotional affair on and off the pitch. Migration to britain fell significantly last year, figures show. Net Long Term International migration to the uk was estimated to be 248,000 in 2016, a fall of 84,000 compared to 2015. The office for National Statistics said the change was driven by both a rise in the number of people leaving the country, mainly eu citizens, and a fall the country, mainly eu citizens, and afall in the country, mainly eu citizens, and a fall in the number of people arriving in britain. Despite the fall, Net Migration is still more than double the government as matt ta rg ett. Just want to bring you this, some of your comments on prevent. Lynn says having been a teacher in education and having to implement the strategy, this needs to come mainly from the Muslim Community as they need to take much also if radicalised people go out to the likes of syria and libya, their british passports should be removed to prevent re entry into this country. Refugees and immigrants should also be thoroughly vetted when entering the country. Rory on Facebook Says prevent is pathetic. If we really want to help prevent terrorism, lets than the burqa and face veils. Extreme Socio Economic conditions are what drive people to extremism, we need a Fairer Society to deal with it. Heres some sport now with holly. A victory for Manchester United who are this morning celebrating a 2 0 victory over ajax in the Europa League last night. There was a minutes silence just before that game started, as a mark of respect for those who lost their lives in the attack. Paul pogba gave united the attack. Paul pogba gave united the lead within the first 20 minutes. Henrik mkhitaryan added the second after the break. It means that united qualify for next seasons champions league. Jose mourinho pay tribute to his players for the way they handled at under such difficult circumstances. We just came to do ourjob, we came without the happiness that we should bring with us, because when you come for these big matches, you go have become you go proud. And we didnt. We just become you go proud. And we didnt. Wejust came become you go proud. And we didnt. We just came to do ourjob. And the boys were fantastic, because they blocked, they put a wall in front of their eyes, and they stayed isolated from everything, and they focused on the Football Match, which i think we played really, really well. The cricket now. England beat south africa by 72 runs in the First One Day International at headingley. They are ranked number one in one day cricket but could not stop england reaching a total of 331 64 stop england reaching a total of 331 64 sto p stop england reaching a total of 331 64 stop captain eoin morgan scored a century. South africa started surely in reply but then collapsed and they were all out for just 267. Chris woakes picked up four wickets. The series continues in southampton on saturday. A pretty good day at the office for us. Playing against an extremely strong south africa team, putting in an all round performance that i thought was brilliant. Trying to do the basics well. First practice is well underway at the monaco grand prix. The 2009 World Championjenson button says he feels no pressure, ahead of his one off return to formula 1. Button retired at the end of last season but is racing for mclaren in place of Fernando Alonso. If you can come back for one race, monaco is the race. I am very excited, to drive a new car because it is very different to what i have been driving, but also to race in monaco, the most prestigious grand prix and the most glamorous as well. The frenchman Pierre Rowland ended a two year wait for victory by winning the 17th stage of the giro ditalia. It was the 30 year olds first triumph. His teams First Grand Tour stage for two years. The race leader tom dumoulin and retains a 31 second overall lead. Writtens adam yates was 30th and is 11 overall great britains adam yates. I will have more in the next hour. Ukip leader paul nuttall will unveil his partys ukip leader paul nuttall will unveil his pa rtys manifesto. Ukip leader paul nuttall will unveil his partys manifesto. This is further delay will let the terrorists win. We will go live to paul nuttall, where he will be outlining the manifesto. Norman smith, there had been a pause in the campaigning, will there be a change in tone when it resumes today, resuming with the ukip manifesto . think theyre almost certainly will be, maybe a bit more subdued, but this is a big moment for ukip because they have been on a bit of a nosedive really since the brexit result, since the departure of nigel farage, since the repeatedly to ship tussles, the organisational chaos, the hammering they took in the local elections. Remember, they lost every single sitting councillor, just one ukip candidate won his seat, so they really are taking a pummelling at the moment, and the hope is that this manifesto can just somehow give them a little bit of a lift. The difficulty of course obviously as they have lost their main purpose, their main aim, mainly brexit. We have all voted for brexit seven no longer the great reason for them. So they have to sketch out a different sort of agenda. I think probably mr nuttall is starting so lets have a listen. Friends, due to a cruel and evil act of terrorism, in manchester, On Monday Night i also wa nt manchester, On Monday Night i also want to make it clear that the vast majority of the Muslim Population of this country are peaceful people, and a great asset to our society. The fact that this islamist terrorist targeted a concert, which was primarily attended by children and teenagers, simply proves that there is no depths to which these evil and warped individuals will stoop. When i was elected leader of ukip six months ago, i was clear right away that the threat posed to our country by Islamic Fundamentalism was one of the major issues i and indeed all politicians would face in the coming years. I also identified the need to take a far more Muscular Approach To Social Integration and against Segregation Asa integration and against segregation as a key policy area. I also made it clear that extra investment in the security of our country was a top priority, both in terms of our police and our armed forces. Todays ukip manifesto underlined all three of those priorities. Security in the form of provision for 20,000 extra Police Officers. 20,000 extra troops. 7000 extra Prison Officers and 4000 extra Border Guards. It was quite right that campaigning in this election is ceased to 24 hours yesterday but i believe it is the right decision to launch our manifesto today. It is the duty of Democratic Politics to confront the most serious issues of our time, and a general Election Campaign is the most appropriate moment for those issues to be debated. It is also our chance to send a message to those who hate our way of life, our values and democracy. The message is clear, you will not win. If hissing sympathy with those killed and maimed in manchester is important, but it is not enough to light candles or signal our upset on social media. When you are a leader ofa social media. When you are a leader of a political party, you have the duty to set out how you would protect the people of your country from the threat to the entire way of life. There is no Magic Formula to turning back the tide of Islamic Fundamentalism. Action needs to be taken fundamentalism. Action needs to be ta ken across many fundamentalism. Action needs to be taken across many policy areas, and it will take time to make significant progress. But be in no doubt, the problem will not be solved if politicians are too cowardly to confront or even identify where the problem lies. Moreover, without the political will to take difficult decisions, challenge communities, and most importantly secure our borders, things are only going to get worse. I was criticised by certain sections of the media for calling radical islam a cancer in our society, following the westminster attack. I make no apologies for saying this, andl make no apologies for saying this, and i will repeated today it is a cancer that needs to be cut out. It is the role of ukip in our National Political life to challenge the cosy establishment consensus whenever it is failing the british public. We did that on immigration control, we did that on immigration control, we did that on brexit, and now we will do it by tackling issues surrounding integration. These are issues that the other Political Parties would rather brushed under the carpet, and the Westminster Chatterati would rather ignore, simply because it makes them uncomfortable. The Prime Minister has during her time in office presided over cuts to our Police Service and reductions in our armed forces are too. She has put pressure on the police to lower the Numberof Pressure on the police to lower the number of stops and searches they carry out. And no progress whatever was made reducing the level of immigration in order to give social cohesion and a chance to advance. This despite mrs mays pledge to bring Net Migration down to the tens of thousands, and indeed this morning it was announced that we have added a city the size of hull to our population in the last year. It is also a dereliction of duty to allow jihadis it is also a dereliction of duty to allowjihadis to it is also a dereliction of duty to allow jihadis to re enter this country, including it seems monday nights terrorist. I want to make it clear that i believe anyone who leaves this country to fight for Islamic State should forfeit their passport, their citizenship, and never be allowed to return. Applause more police, more soldiers, more Prison Officers, and more Border Guards are essential. There are many other things in our manifesto today, including something that all of the other Political Parties would love to be able to offer but cannot. That is 11 billion a Year Spending increase for the nhs and Adult Social Care by the end of the next parliament. That increase matches the reduction we are pledged to make in foreign aid spending. All of our Key Public Services came together to help the victims of the Terror Atrocity in manchester. The police, the ambulance service, fire and rescue and all of the hospitals which are treating the injured. The response, just serves to emphasise how people who work in our Public Services are so vital to our society and its civilised values. It is time to start investing in them again. There is of course also a major section in the manifesto about brexit. And we set out how we will keep the government honest to its stated claim of taking britain out of the european union. We have laid out six key brexit tests that we feel need to be met to ensure that we get the kind of brexit that people voted for last year. Ukip is the countrys insurance policy, and if the government begin to backslide during these negotiations, then it must know that ukip will be there. We will also be the party that stands up for gender equality. Freedom of expression and equality before the law. And make sure 5551; 7575. 7. 7. 7. 77 7 7 5. 557 saus 7 . In every within our countri. Within our country. No Community Within our country. No doubt we will suffer insults from the politically correct brigade for doing so. But that will not deter us. They will be the same people who called us racist for simply arguing for lower immigration. And just as we we re proved for lower immigration. And just as we were proved right about the strains of excesses of the immigration and the strains it was placing on british communities, and we we re placing on british communities, and we were right about the way brussels had hollowed out our democracy, so well be proven right again about britains integration emergency. Its seldom easy being a ukiper. Joining and Establishment Party would offer a 727. 5; to joining and Establishment Party would offer but g to 27; in islfcountryfl 7. ~ fl f it it is not fl f it it is not the putting it first. It is not the british way to turn a blind eye to evil in our midst. It is not good enough to light candles and proclaim that extremists will not beat us. Action is required on multiple fronts and i am proud ukip is setting out its patriotic agenda for defending our country and our way of life. And now, i defending our country and our way of life. And now, lam equally defending our country and our way of life. And now, i am equally proud to hand over to my deputy chairman, suzanne evans, who will take you through some of the specific proposals within our 2017 manifesto. Thank you. Studio the ukip leader paul nuttall outlining what he says is ukips patriotic agenda for this country in the aftermath of the Manchester Bombings. Lets go to norman smith, guru, who guru he ho