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Which will lead to higher prices at the pump. Oil prices skyrocketed with the invasion of ukraine last year. Now on bbc news ukraine the missing children. Vladimir putin is now a wanted man. Russias president has been indicted as a suspected war criminal. Chatters happily. For the forced removal of children from ukrainian territory. Air raid siren wails since russia launched its war on ukraine, kyiv says thousands of children have been taken. Translation its not only putin who should be put on trial, its all the main people for what they did to the children. Weve met women forced to travel deep into Enemy Territory to get their children back. Translation i should never have let him go. | but we didnt know. Theyjust took him and that was that. Russia claims it was protecting them from danger. Speaks russian but weve investigated the ideology thats driving its actions and found new evidence of how the ukrainian children russia takes are treated. I look at them here in this russian run school, theyve got Military Uniforms and theyve got these zs on their sleeves. The symbol of russias war on their country. It is the most anxious journey of these mothers� lives. Theyre rushing to reach the children theyve been separated from for six months. Ijoin them on the first stage of their trip. Ukrainian women heading for russia to find the children sent to summer camps there and never returned. Alla tells me every minute now counts because the children have been told theyll be put in care if their mums dont come for them. Translation the children started calling us in panic. I and russia is huge. So where would we have looked for them . Train horn hoots so this is the start of a gruelling trip across thousands of miles that will take the women deep into the country thats declared war on them. Alla shows me the video her son danila sent from his summer camp in crimea. Hes 13 and he went there in october when his own city was occupied. But when her son was liberated, the russians refused to send the children back. So alla has felt like a part of herself is missing for six months. Translation i should never have let him go. | but we didnt know. Theyjust took him and that was that. My son had seen explosions. I wanted him to relax from the war. And then this happened. Ijust hope we make it in time. Train horn blares alla had been struggling alone to know how to reach her son safely. But in kyiv, she was met by the group thats helped organise this whole trip. For alla and dozens like her. The group has just arrived in kyiv, but this isjust the very first stage of an extremely long and arduous journey to try and get their children back. Kherson is now cut off from crimea by the fighting. So the women have to make an enormous detour. First to kyiv from kherson, then from here, theyll head for poland before crossing into belarus, which is russias big ally in this war. Its then a Flight To Moscow and a 24 hour drive south to the childrens camp. Thousands of miles to end up a short distance from home. These days, kherson is under russian attack. Its forces have been taking their revenge on the city since they were forced to retreat last year, ending months of occupation. Daily life now brings terrible danger here. And yet moscow had proclaimed this part of the russian world. Patriotic singing thats when ukrainian children were subjected to this. Russian anthem plays. The anthem of an occupying force. The video from a summer camp was posted by proud pro russian officials. But look more closely at their faces and what happens when the camera spots the girl with her ears covered. Alla is no supporter of russia. But when she sent danila to that same summer camp, shed begun to doubt kherson would ever be freed. She never thought her child would be stuck on the other side of a front line. Translation we started getting calls saying they wouldnt bring the children back. They said, if you want them, come and get them. I ran to the School Headmaster for help. I wrote to the local administration, but they did nothing. They said they would only bring the children back when kherson was russia again. Thats when save ukraine stepped in. Theyve done all the paperwork and the permissions that russia demands. Now theyre preparing the women for how their children may have been affected. By six months living under russian rules. It was like soft, soft power. And step by step, we russify all of these children. Its about months. Its not about one day to threaten them and to convert them to be russian. No. Its like every day you will sing our songs, we will feed you, we will tell you bad things about ukraine. Yeah. And if your parents will not take you back, you will stay in russia. You will be russian children. For alla, theres time for a last call home to a Family Waiting and worrying. Translation i worry every single day that something i could go wrong. It gnaws away at me. And it will do until i have my son back next to me. I worry i wont make it in time. And i will be worried until were home and i can breathe again. But i cant yet. Engine rumbles this is as far as we can go with alla. Once they leave kyiv, the women will turn off their phones for security. At the border, theyll invent cover stories about their trip, scared of being turned back. The stress will be enormous. A few days after we filmed olga setting off to get her granddaughters, her heart gave out. She died in russia by the side of a road. Air raid sounds this is a war thats created all sorts of victims, brought all sorts of pain. But its the fate of ukraines missing children thats driven the International Criminal court to issue its first Arrest Warrants. Tannoy announcement in russian. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and thats why he is now a wanted man. Vladimir putin must have thought his war would be swift and glorious. Instead, its got him indicted for the illegal deportation of ukrainian children. And its been carried out in plain sight. I checked the channel of russias childrens ombudswoman. Maria lvova belova is now a suspected war criminal, too. Shes posted all sorts of videos like this where shes removing children from occupied parts of ukraine, delivering them to russian families. Vladimir putin changed the law to make it easier to adopt them. Shes even adopted a boy from mariupol herself. This is philip, and hes become a russian citizen. We did ask the ombudswoman for an interview twice, but she didnt reply. Online, though, she paints all of this as if russia is saving children from danger. The thing is, ive carried on scrolling through this account and ive looked at all of the posts, and it becomes clear very quickly that this is not a humanitarian mission, its an ideological one. Because, for example, if you look at this video that the ombudswoman has posted just here. Speaks russian. Shes talking about how russia is protecting the people of eastern and southern ukraine from the nazis there. And she says that these are our people. Theyre all part of one big family. And thats why russia, she says, cant leave those children. Basically, shes saying theyre russian children. Ukraine says more than 19,000 children have been taken to russia, though its lists arent public. We dont know how many have been adopted. We do know that many were taken from Ukrainian Special schools and childrens homes. Last september, sasha was taken from his school in North Eastern ukraine, removed without a word to his family. Forced separation would be upsetting for any child but sasha has special needs, and for someone so vulnerable, it was deeply unsettling. Speaks ukrainian his mum had to travel thousands of miles to get him back deep into occupied territory. And tetyana has new proof of how ukrainian children are treated there. Tetyanas just shown me this photograph. And these kids here are classmates of sasha, of her son. And look at them here in this russian run school. Theyve got Military Uniforms and theyve got these zs on their sleeves. These are the symbols of russias war on their country. Sasha has identified three children in these pictures. The writing on the Classroom Wall shows the ukrainians were dressed to celebrate a Russian Military holiday. Sasha clearly remembers the day they were taken, when russian soldiers in balaclavas came to their school with guns. They loaded him and 12 other children onto buses and drove off with them. Translation to be honest, it was pretty scary. I didnt know where they were taking us. Sasha then had no contact with his mum for six weeks. When i ask how hard that was. Translation yes. Yes, to be honest, its too distressing to even remember. The teenager is now safe with his mum in germany. Theyre living as refugees because their city is being pounded by russias military. Tetyana remembers how frantic she was when sasha disappeared and the moment she was finally told he was at a Special School in occupied Eastern Ukraine and she could call him. Translation he cried into the phone. It was the first time wed spoken in six weeks. He was happy to hear me, of course, but he really cried. He wanted to come home. The children had been told their homes had gone, that everything had been destroyed. And sasha was afraid we were gone, too. Sashas town is now under attack by russian forces. Ukraine retook kupiansk in september, ending almost seven months of occupation. But the russians didnt retreat far. And sashas school is now in ruins, too. The russian missiles landed a few weeks after he left here. The pictures were filmed by a teacher. Mykola showed them to me in kyiv, where he and his family have now moved for safety. He told me how hed seen the russian soldiers take sasha and the other children from the school but hed been powerless to stop them. Translation they were all in identical camouflage and body armour, with good weapons. They had balaclavas on, so you could only see their eyes. It only took them ten minutes to gather everyone together. They werent talking. All they said was, quick, quick, quick ijust had a chance to ask where they were taking the kids and to say, let me go with them but they said no. Go home. Because if you leave, you wont be coming back. I put to him what russia says that in cases like this, its just taking children to safety. I lived under occupation, so i know the difference between what the russians say and what i see for myself outside of my own window. The two are totally different. There was no reason to evacuate back then. It wasnt like now, when everyones leaving. This was abduction. They just took the children. Sasha has always been withdrawn but tetyana says hes even quieter these days. Hes told his family the children were banned from even mentioning ukraine or speaking their own language. So, i asked tetyana what she thinks about the Arrest Warrant issued for russias president. Translation its not only putin who should be put on trial its all the main people, the commanders, all of them for what they did to the children. What right did they have . They knew it was impossible for us to get them back and they didnt care. Phone dial tone. I called the woman in charge of the school where sasha was taken using a russian number, so there was a chance shed pick up. Speaks russian. We know that five of sashas classmates are still stuck there. Continues speaking russian. But i wanted to know about that z mark the ukrainian children dressed as russian soldiers. Replies in russian. So what if they were . The School Director shot back. What kind of question is that . Soon after, the line cut out. Dead tone beeps. Eight days after alla and the other mothers left kyiv, we headed north to wait for their return, past reminders of how war has changed even the most remote corners of this country. Id already seen the Big Reunion In Crimea at the summer camp. Russian tv cameras were brought in to capture the moment. For alla and her son, the tears, the emotion are real, but the rest is twisted. The reporter claims ukraine did nothing to help these mums which isnt true and that russia protected their children. But it was russias invasion of ukraine that separated them and russian officials who did nothing to get them home. Now, the children were about to cross the border, the final stretch of their long journey home, and they had to make this part on foot. So, after about three hours being questioned at the ukrainian border, the first groups are just coming through. I can see some of the women and their children waving as they cross the border, finally. Dobryden six months apart and then days of travel to get back here. Danila had been scared he wouldnt see his mum again, but alla made it. And the stories of their traumatic trip begin to spill out between the welcome hugs. Translation they held us i for 14 hours at moscow airport. They kept us like cattle, separate from everyone else. 14 hours being questioned with no water, nothing. The women were asked about ukraines military movements, but they had nothing to tell. Well, alla is finally back but clearly exhausted and yet, ijust heard her say that she was so happy the moment she took her first step back on ukrainian soil again. The children say they were treated 0k in crimea, but as russians. Theyd get lines if they refused to sing the anthem and they confirm what they were told would happen had their mums not come for them. They said wed be adopted, this girl says, so allas relief at her reunion is immense. Translation that moment when we met makes up for everything we had to go through. As soon as i saw my child running towards me in tears, everything, all the struggle, it was all worth it. I asked danylo what he felt. Translation i dont know. It was just brilliant. He had worried it might never happen. They told us theyd only take us home from camp when the war ended, when kherson was russian. These children told me others were still stuck at the summer camps because russia makes it so hard to return them. 31 made it back on this trip. Including sanya, who had been separated from her mum for seven months. Translation we ran up to her. We were so happy. My sister even burst into tears from happiness. Now, i just want to see everyone, the dogs, to hug everyone, and thats it. Those returning are just a tiny handful of the total ukraines government has recorded as missing. Even after Vladimir Putin was indicted for their removal to russia as a suspected war criminal. Hello there. Good evening. More blue sky and sunshine for the vast majority of us across the uk again today. Always cooler and breezier towards the south coast. Heres hastings in east sussex. The best of the sunshine and the highest temperatures, again, in the west. County down in Northern Ireland seeing plenty of blue sky, and some lenticular clouds, as spotted by one of our weather watchers in the north west of england over the Higher Ground of the lake district. Now, next week, not a lot is set to change. Its dry and its settled. There will be a lot more sunshine to come in the forecast. Again, always best out in the west. There will be some more low cloud moving in from the north sea. Plenty of moisture there overnight tonight. The cloud a little more extensive. Its got a head start, of course it didnt clear for some spots all day, moving into parts of Eastern Wales and across the south of england, also the central belt, but its mild underneath that cloud. Temperatures in high single figures, clear skies further west, perhaps a bit of mist forming into tomorrow morning, but it wont take too long to lift and clear. And, of course, that low cloud is set to burn its way back towards the coast, maybe a few spots of drizzle, but otherwise dry underneath that cloud. And the cloud could lingerfor some time, perhaps across the wash, perhaps parts of lincolnshire as well, where temperatures will be lower with that onshore breeze. High values out towards the west, south west of scotland, maybe parts of Northern Ireland, 23 or 2a degrees celsius. Dont forget, the sun is strong at this time of year, and the uv levels will be high, will remain high. The Grass Pollen Levels are also high. Now, as we head through tuesday, we see the same thing all over again. Perhaps that low cloud more extensive, though, through the morning. Again, we are expecting it to burn back towards the coast, perhaps producing a few spots of drizzle here and there. Some of that cloud lingering again, cooler on the coast, warmer further west, which is where well see the best of the days sunshine yet again 22 to 2a degrees celsius, maybe for some spots. But things do start to change as the week wears on. Now well start to see our area of High Pressure just gradually migrate its way further eastwards. This is storm oscar, as named by the spanish met service. Its moving its way northwards. It could produce one or two showers and probably throw some high cloud towards the South West Of England in particular. Maybe a few showers across the south. We join a Southeasterly Wind across south eastern areas of england, just bringing some much warmer air our way. So across london, for example, through the weekend, we could see highs of 28 degrees

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