and grew, and obviously it's very tall, and you are overlooking your neighbours' houses and lawns. what do they think? well, they love it. they bring me stuff to make my art out of. this neighbour over here, well, he bought one of my microwave artworks — it's a microwaved laptop — for $1500. $1500? yeah, and he gratefully displays it in his living room and brags about it. and they're fans, every one of your neighbours fans of your work? they love my work. in fact, just about the entire town of palm springs knows about it. people come from germany, japan, the uae, france, india — all different places, telling me they came here just to see this. where do you think this fits in, where you fit in, even, to contemporary america? i don't know where i could fit in. i don't think it fits in anywhere really to speak of. how we got men on the moon and how we'll get men on mars or people on mars isn't going to happen by how things fit in with other things, it's going to happen by how things that have been — never been done before is how it's gonna happen.