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The National Health service this winter. A number of hospitals have declared critical incidents. Three people have died after fire broke out at a hotel in perth in scotland. Emergency services, including 21 Ambulance Crews and nine fire trucks, were called to the incident. Thousands have waited in line to pay their respects to Brazilian Football legend pele, whos lying in state at the ground of his former club, santos. The three time world cup winner died at the age of 82 on 29 december. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Kevin Schofield, whos Political Editor of huffpost uk and eleanor langford, political reporter at politicshome. Tomorrows front pages, starting with. You the ft leads with its annual survey of uk economists, finding a majority believe the recession here will be worse than in other countries. The i reports comments by a leading health boss that extreme pressure on hospitals will continue for at least another three months. The mirrors take is that the future of the nhs is on a knife edge. The times quotes a Government Source as saying the current wave of rail strikes will turn a generation away from train travel. The telegraph leads with prince harrys latest round of interviews and his claim that he wants reconciliation with his father and brother. The mail has the same story about prince harry, and also includes tennis star Martina Navratilovas diagnosis of cancer. While the sun is highly critical of harry saying hes slating the royal family on tv, and then wanting to make peace. So lets begin. We arejoined by we are joined by Kevin Schofield and eleanor langfield. Eleanor langfield. Thank you for our eleanor langfield. Thank you for your time eleanor langfield. Thank you for your time i eleanor langfield. Thank you for your time. I said eleanor langfield. Thank you for your time. I said at eleanor langfield. Thank you for your time. I said at the eleanor langfield. Thank you for your time. I said at the start your time. I said at the start there, kevin, happy new year, not really, these are pretty miserable headlines, lets start with the ft because it is pretty damning stuff. Yes, the ft do this over 100 Top Economists are given how they think the economy across the world, in particular the uk, will be in the 12 months ahead, and it makes pretty grim reading. The end of 2022 was bad enough and looks as though 2023 will be even worse, a longer and deeper recession, higher Interest Rates, high inflation, a real squeeze on household incomes, higher Borrowing Costs because Interest Rates are going up, and there doesnt seem to be much light at the end of the tunnel, it looks like it is time to batten down the hatches. Economically speaking, 2023 is going to be pretty grim. Economically speaking, 2023 is going to be pretty grim to be pretty grim. Eleanor, he has taken all the to be pretty grim. Eleanor, he has taken all the good to be pretty grim. Eleanor, he has taken all the good lines, to be pretty grim. Eleanor, he has taken all the good lines, all to be pretty grim. Eleanor, he has taken all the good lines, all the i taken all the good lines, all the bad lines there it is partly about relativism, they may be great by the end of the year, it is just that the uk will be behind everyone else. Yes, exactly, and the economists point yes, exactly, and the economists point out yes, exactly, and the economists point out a yes, exactly, and the economists point out a couple of reasons for that, point out a couple of reasons for that, one point out a couple of reasons for that, one of which is brexit and the other that, one of which is brexit and the other is that, one of which is brexit and the other is neglect of Public Services under other is neglect of Public Services under very other is neglect of Public Services under very tight labour market. There under very tight labour market. There could be a little bit of growth there could be a little bit of growth but ultimately we are going to lag growth but ultimately we are going to lag behind the rest of the g7 for a number to lag behind the rest of the g7 for a number of reasons, notjust the ones a number of reasons, notjust the ones listed a number of reasons, notjust the ones listed. This one is particularly bleak, little more bleak particularly bleak, little more bleak than previous years but within the bleakness there are a few speckles the bleakness there are a few speckles of hope. The bleakness there are a few speckles of hope. Well come to those in a speckles of hope. Well come to those in a second. Speckles of hope. Well come to those in a second. I speckles of hope. Well come to those in a second. I was speckles of hope. Well come to those in a second. I was struck. Speckles of hope. Well come to i those in a second. I was struck by one quota, the energy shock is as bad as yours, the Inflation Problem is as bad as the lack of the Labour Supply is coming from a combination of the nhs and brexit, is that fair, eleanor . I of the nhs and brexit, is that fair, eleanor . ~ ,. , of the nhs and brexit, is that fair, eleanor . ~ ~ ,. ,. , eleanor . I think so. As time goes on and we move eleanor . I think so. As time goes on and we move further eleanor . I think so. As time goes on and we move further on eleanor . I think so. As time goes on and we move further on from eleanor . I think so. As time goes on j and we move further on from brexit, were and we move further on from brexit, were starting to see the challenges from it. Were starting to see the challenges from it. The were starting to see the challenges from it, the pros and cons were put out in from it, the pros and cons were put out in 2016 from it, the pros and cons were put out in 2016 and we are starting to see a out in 2016 and we are starting to see a lot out in 2016 and we are starting to see a lot of out in 2016 and we are starting to see a lot of those columns, a lot of problems see a lot of those columns, a lot of problems with the labour market, a lot people problems with the labour market, a lot people leaving, a lot of problems with impulse, Restricting Trade problems with impulse, Restricting Trade and problems with impulse, Restricting Trade. And the nhs crisis is and has been trade. And the nhs crisis is and has been on trade. And the nhs crisis is and has been on the trade. And the nhs crisis is and has been on the front of newspapers for months. Been on the front of newspapers for months, staff are burnt out, underfunding, and a lack of attention to a lot of the problems it is facing. Attention to a lot of the problems it is facing, so i think it is fair that it is facing, so i think it is fair that there it is facing, so i think it is fair that there has been a bit of a unique that there has been a bit of a unique combination that we have that other countries may not quite have because other countries may not quite have because no other countries may not quite have because no other country has done anything because no other country has done anything quite like brexit. Anything quite like brexit. Kevin, it is probably anything quite like brexit. Kevin, it is probably fair anything quite like brexit. Kevin, it is probably fair to anything quite like brexit. Kevin, it is probably fair to say anything quite like brexit. Kevin, it is probably fair to say that anything quite like brexit. Kevin, it is probably fair to say that the | it is probably fair to say that the government would say and does frequently that this is a global problem, and the head at the imf is quoted as saying that half of the eu will be in recession this year, a third at the global economy, you cannot isolate this. He. Third at the global economy, you cannot isolate this. Cannot isolate this. No, that is riaht, cannot isolate this. No, that is right. And cannot isolate this. No, that is right, and obviously cannot isolate this. No, that is right, and obviously things cannot isolate this. No, that is| right, and obviously things like cannot isolate this. No, that is right, and obviously things like the pandemic in the war in ukraine and having a are having a huge bearing on the uk economy, as they are on the other countries around the world but as eleanor said, it is the world but as eleanor said, it is the fact that the uk is lagging behind other countries and we are most likely going to take longer to come out of the current economic difficulties, i think that is what makes things particularly bad here. We can argue all night as to what the reasons are, the ft clearly is mentioning brexit, ithink the reasons are, the ft clearly is mentioning brexit, i think that is undeniable, if you introduce barriers between yourself and the export market, clearly that will have an effect on economic growth. So, yes, it does look that in the medium to nearfuture so, yes, it does look that in the medium to near future things arent going to get better and we should batten down the hatches and hope that 2023 isnt as bad as the economists are saying, obviously economists are saying, obviously economists are saying, obviously economists are often wrong but it does seem as though the vast majority of them have reached a consensus that things arent going to be great and it might not be until 2024 before we start to see things improve. Until 2024 before we start to see things improve until 2024 before we start to see thinusimrove. ,. Things improve. Hope springs eternal but im things improve. Hope springs eternal but im afraid things improve. Hope springs eternal but im afraid the things improve. Hope springs eternal but im afraid the misery things improve. Hope springs eternal but im afraid the misery goes things improve. Hope springs eternal but im afraid the misery goes on. I but im afraid the misery goes on. Nhs faces three months of turmoil, there is not much new in terms of there is not much new in terms of the sense of crisis, bitterly through the winter, but some of the detail on the front page of the i, it is pretty disturbing stuff, in terms of shortages, delays. Yes. Terms of shortages, delays. Yes, absolutely terms of shortages, delays. Yes, absolutely. It terms of shortages, delays. Yes, absolutely. It says terms of shortages, delays. Yes, absolutely. It says there terms of shortages, delays. Yes, absolutely. It says there are terms of shortages, delays. Yes, absolutely. It says there are 12,000 people absolutely. It says there are 12,000 people stuck in hospitals who cannot be moved people stuck in hospitals who cannot be moved elsewhere, people having to id be moved elsewhere, people having to o to be moved elsewhere, people having to go to different a e is because there waiting go to different a e is because there waiting so go to different a e is because there waiting so long and comparing hospitals to wartime field hospitals, it is quite extraordinary. We have had a lot of these extraordinary. We have had a lot of these front extraordinary. We have had a lot of these front pages in the last few months. These front pages in the last few months, talk about the scale of the crisis months, talk about the scale of the crisis in months, talk about the scale of the crisis in the months, talk about the scale of the crisis in the nhs by the fact that this isnt crisis in the nhs by the fact that this isntjust a winter crisis, this this isntjust a winter crisis, this is this isntjust a winter crisis, this is going to go on until april, that i this is going to go on until april, that i think this is going to go on until april, that i think everything is going to be solved that i think everything is going to be solved by april, things might peter be solved by april, things might peter ov, be solved by april, things might peter ov, the Winter Viruses and flu might peter ov, the Winter Viruses and flu might peter peter ov, the Winter Viruses and flu might peter offer little but ultimately this is not going to go away ultimately this is not going to go away and ultimately this is not going to go away and this winter has been worse than n1any away and this winter has been worse than many so it is showing how bad things than many so it is showing how bad things are than many so it is showing how bad things are in than many so it is showing how bad things are in the nhs and immense pressure things are in the nhs and immense pressure staff are under. Pressure staff are under. About the last line on pressure staff are under. About the last line on the pressure staff are under. About the last line on the front pressure staff are under. About the last line on the front page, pressure staff are under. About the last line on the front page, health i last line on the front page, Health Sheets ask people to stay at home if they feel ill or where masks when they feel ill or where masks when they go out to stop the spread of illnesses. Some people say this is outrageous, some might say they have a good point, dont they, that may be too many people go to a e in particular too quickly . Yes. Be too many people go to a e in particular too quickly . Be too many people go to a e in particular too quickly . Yes, i think there might particular too quickly . Yes, i think there might be particular too quickly . Yes, i think there might be a particular too quickly . Yes, i think there might be a case particular too quickly . Yes, i think there might be a case for particular too quickly . Yes, i think there might be a case for that. There might be a case for that. There there might be a case for that. There is there might be a case for that. There is still a lot of confusion, picky there is still a lot of confusion, picky on there is still a lot of confusion, picky on covid as to what you do and when picky on covid as to what you do and when you picky on covid as to what you do and when you need to be seen by a doctor and confusion about isolation, there are no and confusion about isolation, there are no laws and confusion about isolation, there are no laws in place any more. So, i think are no laws in place any more. So, i think a are no laws in place any more. So, i think a bit are no laws in place any more. So, i think a bit of are no laws in place any more. So, i think a bit of guidance to people like the think a bit of guidance to people like the Health Chiefs would actually be helpful, to point out that if actually be helpful, to point out that if you have the flu and or if you have that if you have the flu and or if you have covid or Scarlet Fever and you have covid or Scarlet Fever and you are you have covid or Scarlet Fever and you are unwell, monitor it but do you are unwell, monitor it but do you need you are unwell, monitor it but do you need to you are unwell, monitor it but do you need to come in is the question. A lot you need to come in is the question. A lot of you need to come in is the question. A lot of people dont know and they are on a lot of people dont know and they are on the a lot of people dont know and they are on the side of caution but that ultimately are on the side of caution but that ultimately adds to the pressure on the nhs ultimately adds to the pressure on the nhs. , , the nhs. Chapter three, this is the last of the general the nhs. Chapter three, this is the last of the general malaise last of the general malaise headlines, kevin, millions willshun trains forever, weve got a series of strikes beginning the morning in fact. I think it is probably fair to say a lot of people have started to wonder how reliable this service is and perhaps look for alternatives but that is the pretty big statement. It but that is the pretty big statement. But that is the pretty big statement. , ,. ,. , statement. It is, yes, the war of words between statement. It is, yes, the war of words between the statement. It is, yes, the war of words between the government| statement. It is, yes, the war of. Words between the government and statement. It is, yes, the war of words between the government and the unions, between them and the rmt, largely, is really ramping up now. The rmt have directly accuse the government of blocking any attempt to resolve the dispute. The government denied that an site is not a matterfor them, It Government denied that an site is not a matter for them, it is a matter for the employers, but now you have got sources, no one is putting their names to these quotes on the front of the paper, but Government Sources are now saying that if the strikes go on for much longer, people will shun the railways and they will be lost forever. It really is as though the government is an observer, rather than a participant, that is not strictly true. The government does have a role to play here in trying to get various protagonists around the table to reach a negotiated settlement and thus far they dont seem to be terribly and gyres by that prospect but that government are trying to apportion blame towards the unions, there is basically a pr battle going on, then and saying if the strikes go on for much longer, the public will turn against the union, the union will get the blame and they will come under so much pressure that they will eventually fold. They dont love like they will fold at the moment so it is a pretty high stakes gamble and reading this story it doesnt look as though there is any resolution coming any time soon. And resolution coming any time soon. And without necessarily placing the blame, eleanor, the Hospitality Industry has also been quoted, kate nicholls, the about the hundreds of millions they are losing in business, which is understandable. I got the train in this evening, i wont be able get another train from my station until at some point over the weekend, i mean, it is understandable that, you know, businesses are getting really badly burned here. Businesses are getting really badly burned here businesses are getting really badly burned here. ,. ,. ,. , burned here. Yes, and they are also caettin burned here. Yes, and they are also getting burned burned here. Yes, and they are also getting burned by burned here. Yes, and they are also getting burned by the burned here. Yes, and they are also getting burned by the cost burned here. Yes, and they are also getting burned by the cost of burned here. Yes, and they are also getting burned by the cost of livingl getting burned by The Cost Of Living Crisis getting burned by The Cost Of Living Crisis Cash getting burned by The Cost Of Living Crisis Cash crisis. Equally people are watching the budgets and so they wont are watching the budgets and so they wont have are watching the budgets and so they wont have a pint after work, they wont wont have a pint after work, they wont go wont have a pint after work, they wont go out for meals, as it is just wont go out for meals, as it is just compounding that existing pressure just compounding that existing pressure that rising inflation is causing pressure that rising inflation is causing. You know, it is a huge figure. Causing. You know, it is a huge figure. 15 causing. You know, it is a huge figure, 15 billion in sales lost over figure, 15 billion in sales lost over the figure, 15 billion in sales lost over the festive period because of the rail over the festive period because of the rail strike. That is a huge dent to the the rail strike. That is a huge dent to the economy and as we have been looking, to the economy and as we have been looking, the to the economy and as we have been looking, the economy is not looking great looking, the economy is not looking great at looking, the economy is not looking great at the moment so it is a kind of reminder great at the moment so it is a kind of reminderto the great at the moment so it is a kind of reminder to the government that this isnt of reminder to the government that this isntjust about of reminder to the government that this isnt just about train travel, this isnt just about train travel, this is this isnt just about train travel, this is about the wider economy and a lot of this is about the wider economy and a lot of services that are at either end of a lot of services that are at either end of the a lot of services that are at either end of the Train Stations that are going end of the Train Stations that are going to end of the Train Stations that are going to be struggling and having a massive going to be struggling and having a massive hit, notjust a small head, a massive massive hit, notjust a small head, a massive hit massive hit, notjust a small head, a massive hit from his repeated rail strikes. A massive hit from his repeated rail strikes. And a massive hit from his repeated rail strikes, and that is something they will have strikes, and that is something they will have to bear in mind if they want will have to bear in mind if they want to will have to bear in mind if they want to Stop Thingabout bringing people want to Stop Thingabout bringing people to the table. Want to Stop Thingabout bringing people to the table. Eleanor, do you rel on people to the table. Eleanor, do you rely on the people to the table. Eleanor, do you rely on the train . People to the table. Eleanor, do you rely on the train . Luckily, people to the table. Eleanor, do you rely on the train . Luckily, i people to the table. Eleanor, do you rely on the train . Luckily, i live rely on the train . Luckily, i live close to central rely on the train . Luckily, i live close to Central London rely on the train . Luckily, i live close to Central London and rely on the train . Luckily, i live close to Central London and i i rely on the train . Luckily, i live i close to Central London and i have been close to Central London and i have been cycling a lot more. No one can stop that been cycling a lot more. No one can stop that. And i get a flat tire i cant stop that. And i get a flat tire i cant go stop that. And i get a flat tire i cant go on stop that. And i get a flat tire i cant go on strike on my own bike. Evan, cant go on strike on my own bike. Evan, what cant go on strike on my own bike. Evan, what about you . Do cant go on strike on my own bike. Evan, what about you . Cant go on strike on my own bike. Evan, what about you . Do you use the train . Yes, evan, what about you . Do you use the train . Yes, i evan, what about you . Do you use the train . Yes. I get evan, what about you . Do you use the train . Yes, i get that evan, what about you . Do you use the train . Yes, i get that tube evan, what about you . Do you use the train . Yes, i get that tube into train . Yes, i get that tube into westminster in the morning. The tube hasnt been affected, it is mainly overground and National Rail that has been affected by strikes. When the tube goes down that combat has a lot when the tube go down, that has an effect on the economy but people are now more set up for working from home so it is not quite as inconvenient as it once was but still, it is still not great and not ideal when the trains dont run because effectively it brings a large part of the country to a grinding halt. It large part of the country to a grinding halt. Grinding halt. It will be a stressful grinding halt. It will be a stressful few grinding halt. It will be a stressful few days grinding halt. It will be a stressful few days for i grinding halt. It will be a i stressful few days for many grinding halt. It will be a stressful few days for many people over the next week or so. Lets move on to ida version for you, that is the prince harry saga, if i can call it that, i know a lot of people watching will be heartily sick of this story, others are absolutely gripped by it and indeed it is clear that the papers are as well because a number of them are leading with it as their main headline, havejust got the Daily Telegraph here, prince harry, i want my father and brother back. Eleanor, im going to quote it first of all, he actually says, i would like to get my farther back, i would like to get my farther back, i would like to have my brother back, they feel as though it is better to keep us somehow as the villains, so i wonder how you read this story . The headline is, i want my father and brother back which is an overture to a new step forward, is that how you see it . That overture to a new step forward, is that how you see it . That how you see it . That villain line speaks that how you see it . That villain line speaks to that how you see it . That villain line speaks to a that how you see it . That villain line speaks to a lot that how you see it . That villain line speaks to a lot of that how you see it . That villain line speaks to a lot of the that how you see it . That villain line speaks to a lot of the hurt l line speaks to a lot of the hurt that line speaks to a lot of the hurt that exist line speaks to a lot of the hurt that exist there. I managed to watch one episode of the harry and Meghan Netflix one episode of the harry and Meghan Netflix special, having gone to the rest yet. Netflix special, having gone to the rest yet, but you could tell there was a rest yet, but you could tell there was a lot rest yet, but you could tell there was a lot of pain there and it has been was a lot of pain there and it has been played out very publicly. It is quite been played out very publicly. It is quite an been played out very publicly. It is quite an overture, he is reaching out from quite an overture, he is reaching out from across the bond and trying to reach out from across the bond and trying to reach out out from across the bond and trying to reach out to his family so it is clear to reach out to his family so it is clear that to reach out to his family so it is clear that there are discussions that need clear that there are discussions that need to be had in the royal family that need to be had in the royal famil. ,. , ,. , family. You want the best for this sto , i family. You want the best for this story. I can family. You want the best for this story. I can feel family. You want the best for this story, i can feel it, family. You want the best for this story, i can feel it, what family. You want the best for this story, i can feel it, what about. Story, i can feel it, what about you, kevin . I story, i can feel it, what about you. Kevin . Story, i can feel it, what about ou, kevin . ~ ,. ,. , you, kevin . I think when you read the quotes you, kevin . I think when you read the quotes and you, kevin . I think when you read the quotes and if you, kevin . I think when you read the quotes and if he you, kevin . I think when you read the quotes and if he does you, kevin . I think when you read the quotes and if he does really i the quotes and if he does really want his brother and father back, he has got a funny way about it. I dont think this is going to endear him to his father or his brother, and this is before his book comes out, obviously this interview has been timed to coincide with a bit, i think it comes out next week so i think it comes out next week so i think from all accounts

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