horrific. i think what i found most striking isjust horrific. i think what i found most striking is just how the mothers involved, the most vulnerable point involved, the most vulnerable point in their lives, were being just mistreated and ignored and belittled and sidelined and treated so badly, at a time when they needed the care the most, and it isjust really horrific to see that happen. yeah, horrific to see that happen. yeah, horrific is a _ horrific to see that happen. yeah, horrific is a word _ horrific to see that happen. yeah, horrific is a word you _ horrific to see that happen. yeah, horrific is a word you could - horrific to see that happen. yeah, horrific is a word you could use i horrific to see that happen. yeah, | horrific is a word you could use for so many elements of this story, and as i did mention, news covered by a lot of the papers. if we go to the front page of the daily mail, benjamin, natural birth dogma left mothers and babies to die. could you just explain that for us? 153; mothers and babies to die. could you just explain that for us?— just explain that for us? by natural birth, they mean _ just explain that for us? by natural birth, they mean of _ just explain that for us? by natural birth, they mean of a _ just explain that for us? by natural birth, they mean of a gentle - just explain that for us? by natural birth, they mean of a gentle birth, | birth, they mean of a gentle birth, and what _ birth, they mean of a gentle birth, and what this has found is that doctors — and what this has found is that doctors and staff went out of the way to _ doctors and staff went out of the way to stop expecting mothers from being _ way to stop expecting mothers from being up— way to stop expecting mothers from being up to have c—sections —— vaginally— being up to have c—sections —— vaginally birth. they had a lack of