certainly will not give president putin any sleepless nights. find certainly will not give president putin any sleepless nights. and the russians have _ putin any sleepless nights. and the russians have given _ putin any sleepless nights. and the russians have given casualty - putin any sleepless nights. and the | russians have given casualty figures for the first time. for a while, they were saying no casualties at all amongst their forces. they were saying no casualties at allamongst theirforces. now all amongst their forces. now suddenly allamongst theirforces. now suddenly they are saying 498 soldiers they have lost and 1600 injured and i think a lot of defence experts are saying that's an underestimate. we don't know the true figure, butjust underestimate. we don't know the true figure, but just the underestimate. we don't know the true figure, butjust the very underestimate. we don't know the true figure, but just the very fact that they are admitting large—scale casualties, how sniffing is that? it's very significant that they are admitting — it's very significant that they are admitting they've got problems. they have hot— admitting they've got problems. they have not committed that kind of thing _ have not committed that kind of thing before but ukraine is talking about— thing before but ukraine is talking about several thousand casualties that the _ about several thousand casualties that the russians have taken so there _ that the russians have taken so there was— that the russians have taken so there was quite a disparity in the claims _ there was quite a disparity in the claims and — there was quite a disparity in the claims and i think if you said you cannot— claims and i think if you said you cannot really adjudicate either way on the _ cannot really adjudicate either way on the matter. but it's the beginning of on a mission on some kind of the — beginning of on a mission on some kind of the part of us and there are problems in—