in the uk, the times leads with a warning from the health secretary matt hancock that england could face extensive local lockdowns in the event of a second wave of coronavirus this winter. the new york times reports on the reopening of london's british museum after 163 days — but with some changes to address the museum's links with slavery and colonialism. the telegraph headlines the outgoing bbc director general tony hall saying the corporation needs a wider diversity of opinion and the daily mirror leads with princes william and harry reuniting in order to finalise details for a statue celebrating the life of princess diana. so, let's begin... asa, rob thank you very much for joining me. we start off looking at the times and this threat, the words no one wants to hear, the possibility of extensive lockdowns in the winter. asa, how serious is this threat? matt hancock is the health secretary, health of the public is his utmost concern so one would expect him to really not pull his punches. although obviously given that the government at the same time what we see mr hancock warning about how ready he is if necessary to even bring a nationwide walk on again let alone many lockdowns, at the same time the government is trying to get people back into offices and convince people it is safe to go on trains and to send your children to school. so this really highlights the sort of multi layers and some may say ove i’co m e of multi layers and some may say overcome a kid and message the government is trying to pull out in this sense. but i think what mr hancock is trying to do here is remind people that yes father is overarching narrative of let's try and had that taste of normality again, what's going see our collea g u es again, what's going see our colleagues in person, at the same time the pandemic is not over quite yet. no it certainly isn't. and rob when we had the first international walk —— national lockdown, the retail and hospitality industries we re retail and hospitality industries were forced to close. the government is saying if we do have to go into walked on again everything will be done so that schools will not have to be close but what will it look like for schools to be able to remain open no matter what? that's the big question, isn't it? we know schools could be the last thing to go and if everything is as bad as some people fear this winter, that means pubs and restaurants will have to close, will it mean non—retail shops will have to close again, in wider or local areas where we have seen wider or local areas where we have seen such restrictions impose? i think what is really interesting about matt hancock on—site interview is that he does raise this issue or possibility a fresh national restrictions and the prime minister came very close to running that out a few weeks ago so it is interesting matt hancock is choosing to put it on the agenda. but we know the government wants to prioritise the economy as asa quite rightly says, it is all about getting people back to work and on trains and convincing them that it is safe and it is very ha rd them that it is safe and it is very hard to see how matt hancock putting this in this way can increase the public upon safe feeling of safety. lam public upon safe feeling of safety. i am feeling sorry for the public not knowing what to believe the mixed messaging coming across. there isa mixed messaging coming across. there is a want of competing priorities coming across. and the daily telegraph is shining the light on some of them. and that is about needing to get staff back into offices and communities being offered three days season tickets on those plans that are being studied by ministers in order to get britain back into the offices. asa tell us more about this and tell us how effective it can be. i think it is a very smart idea that ministers are considering in that they know if you wa nt to considering in that they know if you want to try to get people back to work for one thing, many people will be thinking why on earth should i spend the money to get on a train for one hour may be more there and back just to for one hour may be more there and backjust to have the arguable benefit of being able to talk to collea g u es benefit of being able to talk to colleagues by the water cooler at a two metre distance of course to spark off and then whine and justly about the politics of being in a lift with enough people and how safe can you be in the office respect will matt hancock make me wear a face mask. all those stresses and questions, you would be forgiven for thinking it would be better to sit home forever and ever until this a it is time to come out. so that's why there is they help idea here of very few people wanting to shuffle backin very few people wanting to shuffle back in and out of town every week so maybe we tried to have a more versatile ticketing system to allow you to come in three days or four days. it is certified to the london oyster ca rd to days. it is certified to the london oyster card to system perhaps but i think if there is innovation they did find the demand so that idea would really satisfy a good few people who might want to come into london but only up it. a good few people but perhaps the big question is how many? 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