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And the express leads with an image ofJeremy Corbyn, saying he ignored Armed Forces Day invitations to appear at glastonbury. Lots of concerns over the safety of high rise buildings to the fore. The observer leads with that ministers in panic over fire safety at schools. Assist guests and they would relax standards to save money but now they have thought better of it but now they have thought better of ita but now they have thought better of it a suggestion. But now they have thought better of it a suggestion. It appears to be a plan that was due to be in fermented Post Election with the department of education. Implemented. However, the events of ten days ago seemed to have focused minds. According to the draft guidelines, School Buildings do not need to be completely protected to achieve a reasonable standard of life safety, so it would no longer include an expectation that most new School Buildings would be fitted with them. Unsurprisingly, things have changed somewhat. Yes, no one can have changed somewhat. Yes, no one ca n afford have changed somewhat. Yes, no one can afford to take that risk, can they, and thats where the Tension Rises between the cost its going to ta ke rises between the cost its going to take and the amount its going to cost and the requirement to keep everybody safe . Yeah, and this is what the story on the front page of the observer is pointing out, that this u turn over the Fire Safety Proposals is signalling a shift in the government, so moving away from prioritising cost cutting to prioritising cost cutting to Prioritising Health and safety, which is of course what youd hope theyd have done to begin with. But it does. This whole issue of regulations around fire safety, around building materials, it does Shine A Light on what has been conservative practice for some years. This is the government that under cameron was gloating about cutting red tape because there were ridiculous health and Safety Measures that were getting in the way of Companies Making money. This is what they were talking about a few years ago. That was very much a line they were pursuing, and, you know, things like that do have consequences, know, things like that do have consequences, and tragically in this case. If we back, there will be case. If we look back, there will be potentially many, many years where successive governments of all colours will not have necessarily spent the money on these buildings that they might have. Weve all seen for many years these tower blocks all over the country. We are talking, at the moment, 3a blocks in 17 areas. Thats 600 blocks that still have to be tested and there are concerns about those. This is a systemic failure, this is not one government, one council. This is over a period of time. I accept what youre saying because their result that talk about red tape and all that talk about red tape and all that nonsense. That was under cameron. Nevertheless this is a wider issue because in camden i saw they put out a Press Release a couple of days ago where they thought a certain type of cladding could be put on the thought a certain type of cladding could b now on the 553 7 thought a certain type of cladding could b now 225. Ase 7 thought a certain type of cladding could b now 2 23 7 553 7 thought a certain type of cladding could b now 2 21 it and 7 553 7 thought a certain type of cladding could b now 2 2 it and found 5 thought a certain type of cladding could b now 2 2 it and found outfi theyve now tested it and found out it was an inferior, cheaper version of the cladding that they didnt know had been put on the buildings. So is this contractual, the local government or councils themselves not doing sufficient testing . What we do know is that this is going to bea we do know is that this is going to be a hugely expensive, frighteningly expensive issue now for government, because local government simply cant afford to find the money for this. It hasnt got the money to pay for these revamps and retests. Where does the money come from and what other budgets will be found . This was never even considered as a concept until ten days ago. Thats how huge the impact is, because this will have an impact for years and yea rs will have an impact for years and years to come. The Sunday Telegraph is talking about another problem, not just is talking about another problem, notjust cladding, but this time installation, which is the real threat, Safety Experts are warning, and they are quoting fire Safety Experts in this, a man in charge of the Tall Buildings fire safety network, saying this material should be removed from all of those, and that material inside properties. This is material behind the panelling, so still cladding, but behind the panels. Its not the visible stuff. Yes, and thats the stuff that is highly flammable. What they are saying is, why would you test the coating, the panel, and not the material that is behind it, that is the insulating material . So we are all, every piece of this points to just are all, every piece of this points tojust more are all, every piece of this points to just more and more are all, every piece of this points tojust more and more potential problems and risks in buildings that are being used, and buildings that people are living in, and, yeah, it does point to something that does need to on needrtefbeifirefdififiedfieafii national scale, because the are huge. Some aspects consequences are huge. Some aspects of safety and regulations are not just national, are they . They are European Union regulations as well. So we are supposed to have got safer and safer with increasing regulations. We have been told that some of the materials used in the uk are legal in the uk but not in europe, not in the united states. Are our lives worth less than elsewhere . also surprising given we are signed up, still, the regulations that have been, that weve agreed to, with the rest of europe, that we dont seem to observe the same regulations. Rest of europe, that we dont seem to observe the same regulationsm is surprising, but then it isnt when you look at this culture of seeing red tape is annoying and getting in the way and something we have to find a way to navigate around, which has been the political culture here for quite some time. Shall we move on to politics . In its purest form the telegraph again. Tory plot to skip toxic generation and install younger face is tory plot to skip toxic generation and install youngerface is next leader. Another headline theresa may wont want to hear, im sure. Wondering how long she has got. Wont want to hear, im sure. Wondering how long she has gotm the conservatives, both mps and conservative donors, have decided that their toxicity might skip a gene, skip a generation, rather, so theyve decided that the Boris Johnsons and the davis daviss had had their day, and they need the younger faces of the party to restore them to their former glory, so they are looking at what they described as a golden generation, which i didnt know was that thing in the conservative and apparently it is in the conservative and apparently itis in the conservative and apparently it is and its the 2010 intake with people like borisjohnsons their brother. Joe. Their Arm Orjohnscrrr in the fold this there are is in the fold this there are more johnsons. The cross that has been hung on the neck of england foot ball been hung on the neck of england football teams for 20 years i think if youd said a month ago that Jeremy Corbyn would be unquestionably the dominant force in the labour Party Without any threat to his position, that vince cable, who wasnt even in the house of commons, would be the next Liberal Democrat leader, and that the tories would be fighting like ferrets in a sack with the Prime Minister clearly on her last legs nobody would have believed it. And yet youve got this ludicrous concept of the young turks now trying to fight for prominence within the conservative. Youve got all these people a year ago, Stephen Crabb was standing for Prime Minister. Goodness me, how could we forget . He is only in his 40s. He is passe already thats why we love politics and working on stories like this, isnt it . Its that it happens so quickly. It is the speed, thats it. I always love the next Prime Minister label. Speaking of politicians who risen from, well, difficult times, ministers want spreadsheet phil as next Prime Minister the chancellor, in case you didnt know. Clearly there is a rift inside the conservative to. They are all united in not wanting to reason and that she is toxic, and her brand is irredeemably damaged do not want theresa may to stay. Of course theres a section the party thatis course theres a section the party that is a bit more remain y and backs philip hammond. There is a quote that the former chancellor believes he is equipped for thejob because, if theresa may could be Prime Minister, so could he which is one way to look at things, but it doesin is one way to look at things, but it does in one way Shine A Light on this incredible crisis going on. Do you really believe that philip hammond, who clearly has got an animosity, we can say, towards theresa may, given whats gone on in the last month, would think about coming in for two years, go through the hard yards of Brexit Negotiations alongside david davis and say, right, ive now steered this country through these choppy waters, and im going to give it all away . Waters, and im going to give it all. Waters, and im going to give it all away . Ive gone past the idea of those two working together on anything frankly. I cant imagine that in any scenario. Imagine them job sharing as Prime Minister . Im going to look, just for balance, of course, back at the observer, and Jeremy Corbyn i dont know if i can find my copy of it. Jeremy corbyn with microphone. He tells glastonbury, build bridges, not walls. There he was, martin, on the main pyramid stage. It is truly remarkable that this fellow, who, for much of his political existence was a Voice In The Wilderness he was a Voice In The Wilderness he was a Voice In The Wilderness he was a prophet without honour in any land, let alone his own. And now he isa land, let alone his own. And now he is a Mess I Nick Figure with banners for him at glastonbury . Messianic figure. He has become the political zeitgeist, the spirit of the aged in a way that no one could really have foreseen, and his voice has a degree of resonance, quite clearly, with an awful lot of young people. But how tricky time is he going to have when it comes to the nature of brexit . Given that many who are labour voters opted to leave that many young people who are now turning towards labour would like to stay, and weve now got beneath this the unions saying, we need a soft brexit. Hes going to disappoint somebody, isnt he . Its interesting to me that the minute we talk about Jeremy Corbyn being incredibly popular, a political and cultural phenomenon of the likes of which we have not seen whatever your opinion, you cannot look at this and say its not something extraordinary thats happening, his capacity to connect with people in this way will stop and the minute we talk about that, we immediately talk about things that might derail it, as opposed to trying to understand why it is happening in the first place, and thats because whatever he is saying, the vision of this country that he is offering, which is collectivism in the face of rampant individualism, a vision of is a different kind of politics to the one weve had for so many decades, thats been quite ravaging, thats created these huge divides in society, that has brought upon a crisis in the Welfare State you know, the minute you have somebody likejeremy know, the minute you have somebody like Jeremy Corbyn know, the minute you have somebody likeJeremy Corbyn saying that in a political capacity, people respond to it, because it resonates. But he still has to deal with the issue of brexit because labour is split as much as the tories are. Yes, but the overarching theme in context of framework within which that will happen is a very changed framework. He has managed to shift politics and the framework of our discussion to the framework of our discussion to the left in a really significant way. It was mentioned, 50 senior