Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20170119

This evening, the daily mirror, the 4ist this evening, the daily mirror, the 41st president of the United States, and a profile shot of donald trump. Now the world holds its breath. And there are pictures of the previous 44 president s of the United States around it. I suppose, previous 44 president s of the United States around it. Isuppose, hugh, The Point Danny Is Making is that eve Ryo Ne The Point Danny Is Making is that everyone expected donald trump as a former governor of new york once said, to campaign in poetry and govan in prose. He hasnt shifted at all. Govan in prose. He hasnt shifted at all. Govern. Govan in prose. He hasnt shifted at all. Govern. No, and you would expect it to grow into the office he was about to occupy but theres been no sign of that at all. There are two possibilities. 0ne no sign of that at all. There are two possibilities. One is that he felt he needed to retain that character, he needed to retain the persona that got him this far, particularly at the inauguration, because i could see it would be pretty depressing for some of his supporters if up until the point that he won, he was one person, and then suddenly he became a completely different person he spent the whole Campaign Railing against the elite, the politics as usual, so if you then sounded like a normal politician suddenly having won, i can see a lot of people who support it would start to lose faith, so thats one theory, that this is deliberate and that he deliberately has kept in character, if you like. The other is that he just cant help himself, you cant do it. Hes com pletely himself, you cant do it. Hes completely incapable. And in that case, wow, what an Inauguration Speech were going to have tomorrow though supposedly be people writing it down but he might talk about his hotels, you might make it up, he might pick a fight with someone in the audience who knows whats going to happen . But barack obama has said, and he said this in his Press Conference yesterday, the weight of the presidency, the enormity of the job sobers you up. He seemed to give the impression that once that mantle has been placed on Donald Trumps shoulders, that he will somehow shift. When we saw donald trump first next President Obama in the 0val First Next President Obama in the oval office, he seemed petrified and small and freaked out at the reality. I think in many ways, hes this consummate salesman, he was selling this narrative of himself throughout the campaign, and when he finally obtained the presidency, he could barely believe it. But i also think, like you said, this is a man who ran with throwing a bomb at the political establishment and hes going to continue along those lines, and so the presidency might tame him to some extent but hes donald trump. Hes not someone who changes to go like the wind. He follows his own script and he wants to raise a Middle Finger at the establishment, andl Middle Finger at the establishment, and i dont think thats going to stopjust because he becomes president. Well, you work for fake news the New York Times be interesting the interesting thing is that they said they will board with the pictures of president s. Dont ask me to pick out the one they were talking about, Andrew Jackson. They were talking about, Andrew Jackson. Or they were talking about, Andrew Jackson. Or historical they were talking about, Andrew Jackson. Or historical knowledge is better than mine Andrew Jackson was the donald trump of his day. He was the donald trump of his day. He was the donald trump of his day. He was the plain speaking president for the ordinary guy, he was running against the elites and his Inauguration Day was pretty wild. People brought their horses and cattle into the white house pretty much a day that washington had never seen so there has been a time in the past where theyjust got fed up in the past where theyjust got fed up with what is seen as routine politics and then brought someone in to disrupt it all. And then its gone back to being what we would see as being a sane country again. Im clutching at straws here but this has happened before maybe the equilibria will come back after four yea rs, equilibria will come back after four years, maybe not we might not have to wait but isnt that what has made America Great . The fact that it has been willing to throw everything up. A sense of innovation, moving forward constantly like a shark, like a laser beam. And not becoming what Donald Rumsfeld famously described europe as old europe, stained, frosty, no sense of innovation. Isnt that what has made america what it is . The fact that it can throw up Something Like trump . Well, indeed. That is a no the fa ct well, indeed. That is a no the fact that he is in the tradition of the great salesman and a Reality Tv Star and he was able to come become the president of the United States, in some ways its a decidedly american morality tale, but its not exactly an American Dream story. 0bama but its not exactly an American Dream story. Obama had an American Dream story. Obama had an American Dream narrative. He didnt know his father till he was older, he was raised by his mother, the first African American president. Im not sure donald trump encompasses that same narrative. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, he had investments from his father, his own company. Paradoxically, hes managed to refashion himself as an everyman, asa to refashion himself as an everyman, as a Working Class hero, and thats the great irony of this, but it doesnt have the same mood music as the entrance of obama on the political stage. Yes. Lets go back to the make America Great again, and i think onstage that is the us army band, the pipers, and they are doing sta rs band, the pipers, and they are doing stars and stripes forever. After them, it is a guy called harvey keith. Ive heard of him a country quy keith. Ive heard of him a country guy, i keith. Ive heard of him a country guy, i think keith. Ive heard of him a country guy, ithink lets keith. Ive heard of him a country guy, i think lets go back to the papers. The times. This is basically donalds got talent, isnt it . Do you think you collected these people on the road to washington . The times, he is the legitimate president of the United States, and whatever you think about him, given whatever you think about him, given what we see over the last few days ina what we see over the last few days in a place like gambia, is that america can pass the torch in a peaceful way to a new administration. And that is something to be applauded. Indeed. Past president s will be there, even those who have been sharply critical of him. The only one who wont be is george bush senior, who is unwell. But there will be bill clinton, etc, and it does speak to the kind of democracy that america is. But, you know, i think this will be an important moment for the rest of america, for liberal america, because theyre really going to have to work out what they are for, what they believe. In a way, trump will give them the sharpest definition they can possibly have this is what the times is focusing on. Both in the states here. There are what they would see as liberal activists who are already trying to mobilise and say it might be four long years but weve got to start now and show that weve got to start now and show that we dont think the way trump does things is the way and we dont want this to be the dominant view. The number of times he talks about the events taking place in washington at the same time as the inauguration, people who are going to speak at them, including our own columnist, just give him a shout out for which we are grateful. But i think both here and in america, were really going to have to work out what we are forand if going to have to work out what we are for and if this is the prevailing wind, what the attack is. What is your view on how democrats will handle mr trump . We know what republicans did with barack obama they froch every turn. Is that what they froch every turn. Is that what the democrats will do . They blocked him. Initially i think they will give him the benefit of the doubt. The electoral politics are such that the republicans have both houses and as such they can put through their own policies. They will try to conserve 0bamas legacy as much as possible. But what were hearing is that they will try, to give him the benefit of the doubt, then see what happens, but its Up In The Airat then see what happens, but its Up In The Air at the moment. Lets go back to washington. The make America Great again celebration. And this is toby keith, and, as i say, ive heard of him. Lets listen in. Im an american soldier im an american soldier im an american im an american ive got my brothers and my sisters i stand proud. Plenty of that the telegraph. Dan, how does this square with him wanting to spend 1 trillion on Investment Projects . Is very bizarre, frankly, because he want to spend he wanted to spend billion on Infrastructure Projects to help eve ryman, billion on Infrastructure Projects to help everyman, but hes also trying to preach smaller government, and if you have a smaller government, who is going to deliver these Infrastructure Projects . So its a typical trump comment to say one thing and then the opposite. Its a typical trump comment to say one thing and then the oppositem pa rt one thing and then the oppositem part of his problem, hugh, that hes been so specific in what hes going to do . Im going to bring backjobs, im going to bring back coal mining, im going to bring back coal mining, im going to bring Back Factories . Whereas past president s, yes, of course on the Campaign Trail they talk specifics a bit but they dont zero in on the gripes, but he has zeroed in on gripes people have and hes got to live with that. That will be his problem come saturday morning. Its all very well to have a Reality Show President who promises things. Stop belittling the man im not american, i dont have to respect the office but his promise, as you say, of specific things, its interesting. As fervent as people are now in their support of him, that can flip. And one of the ways it can do that is the people he has promised things too, when they say, well, we not getting those things. The presidency had is a bit ofa those things. The presidency had is a bit of a bully pulpit. It has some powers but in many ways the office of Prime Minister here is a more powerfuljob. Ill interject. I think those of us in the liberal chamber have been taking him to lightly and when he says he will build a wall, maybe you will, but most of the electorate. It incorporates that as saying. you set about coal miner, im going to give you yourjob back, youve got to do it, and yet half those jobs have gone because of automation, because the chinese are dumping steel, and because its done cheaper around the rest of the world. How do you do that . The angry white man will pay dividends to that to some extent and buy him some time, and it doesnt mean he wont have to find them jobs, you will. But the fact that the person who spoke that language is now in the white house and the music has changed. Thats really interesting. We have here, weve no idea what this guy is going to do. The fact he says one thing, does another, he flips, he flops. Hes such a loose cannon. Dan, how much time has he got . Is it essentially two years time has he got . Is it essentially two yea rs before time has he got . Is it essentially two years before the midterms . think its going to have to be before two years hes going to have to produce some results. They are going to want to see jobs and benefits. At the same time, the fact he can channel the anger and be this everyman, that will ingratiate him to his base. But hes going to have to his base. But hes going to have to produce some results very quickly, i would say. The really distressing thing about that quote, weve no idea what this man is going to do, it came from joe bidden, in an interview with the New York Times. Joe biden. An interview with the New York Times. Joe biden. You cant help wondering what might have happened ifjoe biden had been the candidate and not hillary clinton. Yes, much closer to the Working Class. Finally, farewell, mr president. The only paper not to have trump on the front. And i suppose the metro is reflecting on what has gone to put into context whats to come. And its also the fact that for many people, President Obama was one of the most transformational president since lincoln, arguably, when you think of what you dont what he did on iran, human rights, lesbian and gay rights, mobilising the economy after 2008, and what a transformational figure he was. I think the metro is giving some credence to his historical legacy. Some argue he didnt do enough with the economy that allowed trump to get in. He had his own personal flaws that maybe didnt lend him to the american system. If you think of someone like bill clinton, who was able to deal with, haggle with, negotiate with people who were his political opponents, i never got the Impression 0bama political opponents, i never got the impression obama could do that. But if you think about the opposition there was to him throughout, and you think of the challenges and the state of the economy when he took over, i think hes been an exceptional president. Im not even american and im proud of him but i dont think we will see his like again in our lifetime. Thank you to both of you. This particular story in front of the papers. And if mr trump does speak at that make America Great again celebration in washington, we will bring it to here on bbc news. But now its time for the weather. Good evening. The dry, the settled weather will stay with us into the weekend the High Pressure will ensure that. But varieties of weather despite the High Pressure, with the sunshine in the south, to the south of all the cloud it was a sparkling day after a very cold start. But of course after a mild start, where were sitting under that Weather Front, it was a grey and murky day, some patchy rain and drizzle around. Slightly less grey further north under the cloud in cumbria you can see just a few rays of sunshine coming through. Where we keep the cloud through the night is where well see temperatures holding above freezing but you can see where the holes are. The north and the south primarily. Its the south where weve got the colder air at the moment so its here we expect the harshest frost, but well still get down below freezing in northern scotland. Where we see cloud breaks in the vale of york, it could be a tad chilly with some fog and were seeing fog develop around parts of the midlands, east anglia and wales as well. But its in the south, where the air is much colder, where we can expect temperatures again to get to six below freezing. Much warmer in melbourne for the Australian Open taking place. During the day there, our night time, so three in the morning. But hopefully that rain should have cleared away by the time andy murray comes onto court. Thats the way were hoping it will be. But its blustery, though, very unsettled. In stark contrast, were just cold and very settled. Freezing fog could be an issue and in a few places quite patchy by nature. Hopefully well see a few more breaks developing in the cloud across Northern Ireland through the coming day and again in the north of scotland, where we had temperatures of 10 degrees during the day on thursday. But despite that chilly start, the sunshine sparkles again, it lifts the fog eventually and actually erodes the cloud further northwards, so more sunshine through friday for the midlands and for wales. Hopefully brighter for Northern Ireland. Similarly so with plenty of sunshine across northern scotland. Still a bit drab in the Northern Isles with that Weather Front close by. And of course where we have our Weather Front across central areas, again, itll be a murky and dank sort of day. That Weather Front doesnt go away over the weekend, so we cant forget it because it could give us some Nuisance Drizzle or even sleet and snowjust because its cold enough, because over the weekend, more widespread night time frost, a bit more sunshine by day, but if anything, temperatures will be a bit lower, as you can see, despite the sunshine, because were pulling in that cold air, and very little changes into the early part of next week. This is bbc news. Im clive myrie. The headlines at 11 donald trump arrives in washington on the eve of his inauguration to become americas 45th president. One of his First Official duties, to remember the countrys fallen, as his deputy promised early action on pledges made. From ira commander, to key figure in Northern Irelands government, Martin Mcguinness retires from frontline politics. Dozens are missing, feared dead, after an avalanche engulfed a hotel for skiers in central italy. 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