that-s right. — shaun gave me the tip—off. but then i started to - investigate all of the issues relating to what he tipped me off about. _ so i then...that tip off. led me to the front door of a convicted child abuser. and i then interviewed him repeatedly over the course j of three years, speaking to him specifically about what he - remembered of the 1970s - and the 1980s, questioning him as to why he had titled i and written a document that was found in his - possession, which he had titled vishal, which is- an incredibly rare indian name. so i had to really scrutinise and ask him repeatedly, i why were you found | with this document? and then we later discovered that there was a fourth manl who fled from the uk - in or around 1996, and this was an individual who had been convicted in the late 1970s - of picking up boys off the street in a car, i and he had fled in the late '90s to india. _ and he explains in this podcast that he has a fascination, - just like the other offender. who we were speaking with, a sexual fascination -