all the facts as we saw them. but, yes, when we were there, you know, there were attempts to control our access. we had chaperones constantly, we were told, don't go in there, that door is locked, if you try and go in there, someone will put a gun in your face. we had, you know, sort of tall, scary, intimidating, strong men behind us when we were interviewing everyone, monitoring our questions and all of that. so, yeah. well, thank you for coming on to speak about your film. and andrew tate�*s story more broadly connects directly to how media content is made, distributed, moderated and consumed. and we're going to spend today's edition of the media show understanding that with the help of matt shea, but also with helen lewis, who's staff writer at the atlantic, also presenter of the recent bbc podcast series the new gurus, which looks at online personalities with big followings. hi, helen. would you consider andrew tate a form of guru? 0h, absolutely. he fits very firmly into what's known as the kind of manosphere. so these are a suite of gurus who attempt to tell