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sources. we have people on the ground, we have bbc russia colleagues there in russia and we also — colleagues there in russia and we also use user generated content _ we also use user generated content and obviously we try to -et content and obviously we try to get in _ content and obviously we try to get in touch with those people and to— get in touch with those people and to speak to them. obviously there _ and to speak to them. obviously there are — and to speak to them. obviously there are other challenges because we have to consider their— because we have to consider their safety and a duty of care policy — their safety and a duty of care policy and that is amazing because as a media organisation we do _ because as a media organisation we do think about the safety of those _ we do think about the safety of those people. but, of course, we must _ those people. but, of course, we must and do check all the sources— we must and do check all the sources which are available and also _ sources which are available and also it— sources which are available and also it is— sources which are available and also it is quite important for us to— also it is quite important for us to know that the narrative that — us to know that the narrative that the _ us to know that the narrative that the kremlin is providing to their— that the kremlin is providing to their audience, that the kremlin is providing to theiraudience, because it gives— to theiraudience, because it gives us— to theiraudience, because it gives us the possibility to understand better the reaction of the — understand better the reaction of the audience. thank you, olgr~ — of the audience. thank you, olgr~ let's_ of the audience. thank you, olgr. let's bring in professor sam — olgr. let's bring in professor sam green to our conversation. director— sam green to our conversation. director of— sam green to our conversation. director of the russia institute at king's college in london~ _ institute at king's college in london. thank you forjoining us. london. thank you forjoining us at — london. thank you forjoining us at the _ london. thank you forjoining us. at the beginning i said that— us. at the beginning i said that the _ us. at the beginning i said that the information war has the potential, at least, to

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