thank you very much. i promised at the start of the programme that we'd look at how the digital sleuthing that ben is an expert in has now been adopted by a lot of mainstream news outlets. so let me introduce you to the rest of my panel. alexa koenig is the executive director of the human rights centre at the berkeley school of law. allison killing is the winner of the 2021 a pulitzer prize in international reporting. haley willis is visual investigations reporter at the new york times. and haley, if i can start with you. welcome to the media show. you've been investigating civilian casualties in us air and drone strikes. of course, alljournalists are looking to get impact with the reporting but this is pretty impressive. two weeks ago, the us defence secretary issued an order to military top brass that can be summarised effectively as do more to kill the innocent. —— effectively as do more to not kill the innocent. he said the protection of civilians remains vital to the ultimate success of our operations. there was lloyd austin. explain your newspaper's role