just want to hear more about these techniques because they are i hope our audience will find absolutely riveting. allison, knows how you use your training as an architect to work out from satellite photos that the chinese government were building camp. as they claim they are a necessary measure against terrorism. sure. i worked with a buzz feed reporter— sure. i worked with a buzz feed reporter and a developer on fares — reporter and a developer on fares. when we started working in 2018 — fares. when we started working in 2018 it — fares. when we started working in 2018 it was believed that there — in 2018 it was believed that there were 1200 camps in existence but only a handful of those — existence but only a handful of those had been found. and so we were _ those had been found. and so we were keen — those had been found. and so we were keen to find the rest. it's — were keen to find the rest. it's very. _ were keen to find the rest. it's very, very difficult to work— it's very, very difficult to work and she and jen. some of that— work and she and jen. some of that is— work and she and jen. some of that is because it's a very large _ that is because it's a very large region and what's more important is that access is very— important is that access is very difficult. manyjournals in china _ very difficult. manyjournals in china have now been denied visa5, _ in china have now been denied visas, it's— in china have now been denied visas, it's very difficult to id visas, it's very difficult to go there _ visas, it's very difficult to go there and people will have been — go there and people will have been followed, detained and intimidated. it's very