is subscription—free — there's no subscription for radio, it's a free—to—air service — and no subscription company is going to throw £500 million, £600 million a year into the pot of funding free—to—air radio. then you get into whether or not you have to make the radio services ad—funded. that then has a knock—on effect for the commercial sector, as well as having, i should say, a huge effect on bbc radio, were it to be ad—funded — you can... sorry to interrupt, but basically, you know, we could talk about — we probably will end up talking about this licence fee over and over on the media show. we'll look at telly but, you know, in terms of radio, which you know about, are you suggesting that actually it might affect the whole of radio in the uk, notjust the bbc? yeah, my rough back—of—a—cigarette—packet calculation suggests that if you were to divest bbc radio in its totality from television as a result of tv going subscription—only you would have to, first of all, close down, i'm afraid,