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he worked for tony blair after tony blair left power. and i think that's allowed some jeremy corbyn supporters to say it's a tony blair tribute act. but matthew doyle is a professional, he understands communication. i think aaron's right, he could've done much more with the pandemic and getting things in order. but i don't think you really need a kind of lobby name or a big tv name any more. i don't think it matters as much as getting the message right and getting that through. i think it is about credibility and i think he's made a big step today in making that credibility. so names banded around like kevin maguire, you don't think that's necessary? i don't think it's necessary because i think that where tony blair was when he took alastair campbell on, in the early days, i think it was sort of a different sense...

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