i but it's a fast—paced newsroom —| sometimes mistakes do get made. i can't promise they won't ever get made again. - that's part of the risk that we take every day with our front pages, . the stories that we cover. and we shouldn't be afraid of being challenging when we do that. - mm, i mean, given the mission statement that you laid out a few seconds ago, that headline and that front page didn't seem to fall into those categories, did it, really? well, it provoked a very, very strong reaction, - not all of it positive, i but we moved forward. there's a new editor at the helm, has a different way— of editing the paper. but that doesn't take away - from the astonishing legacy that paul dacre left behind. well, the mail seems to be comfortable kicking down as well as punching up. i mean, you'll go after those who are not necessarily powerful or part of the establishment. are benefit cheats, for instance, as fair game as matt hancock? they're in a different - category, but i think anyone who cheats the system — - or, indeed, who breaks the law — risks being held to account - by the standards that apply both