and that she had no knowledge of her husband's interest in extreme ideology. sam is a complex person. she can be both the manipulator and the manipulated, and you often never really know where you stand with sam. and as a journalist, she's a real challenge to tell the story of, because she is an unreliable narrator. she is also not the sort of stereotypical person you expect to end up with isis. this is somebody from middle america who has no history of extremist views, yet she ends up at the heart of the isis caliphate, so she's a real enigma. shortly after the propaganda video was filmed, moussa was killed in a suspected drone strike, and sam paid people smugglers to get herself and her children out of isis territory. now safely back in the us and living with his father, matthew opened up to baker about the propaganda video. did you want to do it? no, ijust wanted to