huge part of this, these clean technology industries, did not exist 15, 20 years technology industries, did not exist 15,20 years ago. technology industries, did not exist 15, 20 years ago. they have grown as a result of the need and investment. making it abundantly clear that the need is still there first to expand these industries, expand this transition. and more of that investment will grow, continue to grow those industries, continue to grow those industries, continue to grow the opportunities. it is about investing in the right way at the right time. it investing in the right way at the ri . ht time. , investing in the right way at the right time-— right time. it is so good to talk to. right time. it is so good to talk to- thank _ right time. it is so good to talk to- thank you _ right time. it is so good to talk to. thank you for _ right time. it is so good to talk to. thank you for being - right time. it is so good to talk to. thank you for being with i right time. it is so good to talkj to. thank you for being with us right time. it is so good to talk. to. thank you for being with us on the programme. it is clear this is also about creating jobs and business. but is it also about governments protecting their own economies? pamela is an expert on trade law at the university of sussex. it is good to have you on the programme. if you take the word