labour leader to say enough, there must be a ceasefire? the united nations has said it, emmanuel macron has said it, is keir starmer going to say it? has said it, is keir starmer going to sa it? ., ,. , to say it? you described the situation — to say it? you described the situation in _ to say it? you described the situation in gaza, _ to say it? you described the situation in gaza, and i to say it? you described the situation in gaza, and it - to say it? you described the situation in gaza, and it is l situation in gaza, and it is intolerable, the sheer number of deaths, particularly percentage of those, the proportion of those, that our children. the desperate need for humanitarian aid, the fact that hostages are still being held effectively at gunpoint. this is intolerable. and i do think we need a sustainable ceasefire. the question is, how do we get there? i think the first step is, we need a truce, we need a humanitarian truce that allows the space for a number of things to happen. firstly, for humanitarian aid to get in, in much greater quantities and volumes about is at the moment. secondly, we have to have those hostages released. it is very difficult to see how you get to a sustainable ceasefire until that happens. that's truce provides the space for the dialogue that is