it's not something that ends when you leave the classroom. and for lots of working class people in particular, that value on self—education, on making that impact yourself, that's why, you know, a lot of the miners�* halls and miners�* welfares in my constituency had libraries and had newspapers because they knew that education was what would make the biggest difference for working class people. and was your granddad getting you, as it were, educational books or just great stories? just absolutely everything, so everything from denis healey to tony benn to agatha christie, french history, the lot. he just felt there was so much richness in the world, so much to learn, so much to understand and you can�*t do all of that at school. so a bit of political education, though, from quite a young age. you�*re getting healey, you�*re getting benn, you�*re getting labour history — a labour—supporting family, i assume. was politics something you talked about at home, you argued about at home? we talked about it a lot. both my grandparents
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