public — difference from that very bitter public exchange at the un yesterday between _ public exchange at the un yesterday between russia and the united states. — between russia and the united states, but by and large, it sounded as if both _ states, but by and large, it sounded as if both men held to their positions. this call came after the americans— positions. this call came after the americans had submitted a formal security— americans had submitted a formal security proposal to moscow last week, _ security proposal to moscow last week, to — security proposal to moscow last week, to address russian security concerns— week, to address russian security concerns in— week, to address russian security concerns in europe, and basically the secretary of state said, we think— the secretary of state said, we think this — the secretary of state said, we think this will work, we just would like to— think this will work, we just would like to talk— think this will work, we just would like to talk about a format, but mr lavrov _ like to talk about a format, but mr lavrov was — like to talk about a format, but mr lavrov was not ready to move on that score _ lavrov was not ready to move on that score he _ lavrov was not ready to move on that score. he repeatedly russian concerns— score. he repeatedly russian concerns that this does not far enough — concerns that this does not far enough. he said don acker we are not escalating, _ enough. he said don acker we are not escalating, and mr blinken said, i would _ escalating, and mr blinken said, i would be — escalating, and mr blinken said, i would be a — escalating, and mr blinken said, i would be a good time to follow through— would be a good time to follow through and pull back your troops from _ through and pull back your troops from the — through and pull back your troops from the border —— he said that. they— from the border —— he said that. they basically agreed to talk again after the _ they basically agreed to talk again after the russians respond formally to the _ after the russians respond formally to the american security proposals, and the _ to the american security proposals, and the americans have said, we