In for a big surprise. We are on wilders watch. The great man is going to come down those stairs, through here, into the chamber and that is our one chance to have a natter with him. Mr wilders, bbc newsnight. Are you going to do to holland what mr trump is doing to america . I am not mr trump, i am my own man, in my own party, in my own country. But indeed, there is what i call a patriotic spring going on. We saw the beginning of it with brexit, that even though the political elite was making sure the people were afraid to vote in favour of leaving the European Union, the people did, the majority. We saw in the United States that despite all the rhetoric of the elite, mr trump won the election. I hope i can repeat the same thing, because once again the people want to be in charge again. Its not only america first, its also holland first, and thats what i will try to accomplish. Some people say you are a bit of a fascist though . Some people say that. Dont listen to those people. Some of them, but it is totally untrue. Wilders hostility to islam has led to death threats, so he is guarded by the police round the clock. But his message strikes a chord here. Around one in five dutch voters are expected to plump for the Freedom Party on March The 15th. In the hague, i hit the pedals to find out why. The valentines day tat was out, but love was in short supply. Geert wilders, you going to vote for him . Yes. The blonde one . Yes. Why are you going to vote for him . Because i am fed up with all this Mumbo Jumbo Talking in the government that doesnt achieve anything. They say, look what we have done, what we have done. Theres a lot of people who have not enough money to get by. When i was young, holland was the most open and tolerant society. Yes. Somethings changed, why is that . Because we are a small country and theres an explosion of people, too many children, too many people. They have to help them, but its full, we are full. Understand . He is looking what the people are angry about and is saying exactly what they want to hear. Because he is saying things like all people have to get good medical care. He is saying something, but hes not going to do it because the only thing hes doing is talking bad about the muslims and then give them the blame for everything. But most people dont trust other politics, so they want to trust him to see what hes going to do. Then a strange thing happens. Wilders must have liked my robust approach, because i get a phone call inviting me for a formal interview. Hello. Geert wilders, when did you last go for a walk on your own . On my own . Well, thats Something Like 12, 13 years ago. All on my own, drive a car, go and do some shopping, empty my own mailbox at home, being at my own home is more than 12 years ago, unfortunately. I am on a death list from alqaeda, the taliban, many of that kind of organisations. Whats the biggest cause by terror of a loss of dutch lives in the last few years . Well, we were lucky to not have the kind of attacks that for instance germany, belgium, france and even the United Kingdom with the london attacks had. I was thinking about mhi7. Sorry, what . I was thinking about mhi7. Mhi7, yes. 193 dutch people died. Yes. They are entirely innocent in a civilian airliner, shot down and the prime suspects is putins russia . We have to see about that. I am sure it has to be cleared, i would not bet russia had nothing to do with that, but still lets wait for the prosecutor. But you could be right. I could be right, the russians say its the ukrainians. Either way, 193 people died, theyre dutch and it has got nothing whatsoever to do with muslims. Very true. So why arent you concerned about that as well because there are other dangers in the world out there, north korea, putins russia and there is islamist extremists, islamist fascists, so arent you a bit obsessed with just one element of the spectrum here, which is the muslim spectrum, while ignoring perhaps, russian fascists . The more that we import islam, im not talking about all the people, im not saying once again that all the people are extremist people, but the ideology and freedom are incompatible. So we are facing an existential problem here. If we allow to open our borders, if we allowe to ignore the problems that we are facing today, let alone later in the century with the demographic situation in africa, we will cease to exist. Our values, our identity will not be taken away by the European Union, only, but by the islamisation of our society. And that does not work. And i want it to be stopped. So trump has pushed america first, you have The Netherlands first, america first, germany first, russia first, dont we go back to 1939 . No, i dont think so. I think that is a fear some politicians put into our heads, but they forget telling us that we made a kind of other totalitarian organisation dominance, which is called the European Union. The European Union is totalitarian . It is totally totalitarian. You speak your mind in china and in russia, you may end up dead, not in brussels. I am not saying it is totalitarian to all the citizens of the European Union, but is totalitarian to the member states. You believe in the politics of identity, dont you . Who doesnt . I suppose the people who believe in liberal democracy, the idea that everybody is equal under the law, it is a different way of looking at the world. People are equal, ideologies, values are not equal. Religions, are not equal. What i told you before, the cultural relativist, people who believe all cultures are equal are the proof of the biggest disease europe faced in the last decade. Cultural relativists who say the Islamic Culture is the same as christianity, and allow them and dont demand from them to integrate and to assimilate. This is the worst thing that has happened to us. Many dutch find his views notjust repellent, but dangerous. So will Geert Wilders take power on March The 15th . Probably not, as the mainstream parties will do their best to block him. But theres no doubting this man is changing what was once the most liberal country in europe into something quite different. So is the talk of Populist Revolution in europe overblown . Or are we mad to ignore the Warning Signals . At the moment Geert Wilders is leading the Opinion Polls in The Netherlands with i9 of the vote, three points ahead of his nearest rival. And in france, le pen is also expected to be ahead in the first round of the president ial election, on 26 . So do these parties really have a chance of winning power . And critically, what is their presence doing to the policies of the moderates . Joining me now, times columnist david aronovitch, sara hobolt, Professor Of European Politics at lse and yascha mount, harvard political theorist. So just what this in context for us. How close to power do you believe Geert Wilders is right now . It depends on what you mean by power . He is close to being the Largest Party in The Netherlands, but that does not mean he will win a majority, but it does mean he will be a power to be reckoned with when it comes to coalition formation. He cannot be prime minister, as it were, on his own . No party in The Netherlands will win a majority, there will have to be a coalition. It might be he is the first person to be asked form that coalition. The other parties have said we do not want to go into government with you. It doesnt roll out there could be another centre right Minority Government where he is the main supporting party. We have seen that before between 2010 and 2012 in The Netherlands where his party was providing the Parliamentary Support and gaining concessions like that