that suited them and it suited us. a european union deal with the uk that actually left some things unresolved. who would have thought it, adam? yeah, but as we have discussed previously, that is a very extreme interpretation of things being left open. indeed. the european union had a very different view of what the items that needed to be closed. gavin, i mean i know the word "backstop" probably brings you out in a rash! but what did you think when you heard that little excerpt? well, it's nonsense. there were a few of the details - to be tied down, but the government is trying to pretend that it didn't realise when it signed up- to the protocol that it was going to mean checks when goods - were moving from great britain to northern ireland. _ it is total nonsense. if they had read the explanatory note for the bill they published, j it said very clearly in there. i heard one government minister on the broadcast this morning i saying they didn't know - there were going to be all these problems and this was never designed to last forever. - well, both of those things are untrue. i lots of people told them - there would be these problems