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Am astonished by this headline, one hundred percent unsafe, because i sat through a couple of interminable briefings at westminster last week, we we re briefings at westminster last week, we were told that many of the towers did not have the suspicious type of cladding. We were very much led away from the idea that a huge number of tower blocks were going to have the same similar disastrous cladding that we had grenfell tower. And yet 60 tests come back, and all 60 have failed. Ifind 60 tests come back, and all 60 have failed. I find that astonishing. 60 tests come back, and all 60 have failed. Ifind that astonishing. I think local authorities were encouraged to put in samples from the cases they were most worried about first, so it is possible they have done the most dangerous ones first and the less injuries once later on, but as time goes on, it does appear that we have been looking at a Public Health scandal that only skilled because not have imagined when the tower block first caught fire. Lets finish with the sun this hour. An eight foot shark at the beach in majorca. It is only a shark it is not like it is a great white shark. What type of shark is it, natalie . watched jaws three days ago, but im not an expert. I watched it on a big screen. Not an expert. I watched it on a big screen. It was a delightful night out. Anyway. Shark attacks not withstanding. There was virtually no shark attacks, but there was all the ivy shark attacks, but there was all the joy of watching people who have not seen jaws before jumping in joy of watching people who have not seenjaws before jumping in the hour. There were children they are, and they were entranced by the idea that people could smoke in a hospital. It seems mad. I do not think it is a man eating shark. Would you like to try to find out . I wouldnt. Normally when people see a shark, people punch it on the nose, because it was in a survival book to do that. Sharks are much maligned, and the . Hundreds of thousands get killed every year. Yes, and they are beautiful machines designed for living forwards and swimming. When the people, people are up in arms but it is because they are in the water. You would scarper if you saw that found in the water. You just make sure that someone is closer than you are. 0h, make sure that someone is closer than you are. Oh, that is nice when people go through the forest, and there is a lying, one puts on his trainers, and one says, you will never out on that line, and he says, i dont need to, ijust need to run faster than you. Remind me never to go on holiday with rob merrick. I would like you to go away and find out how common sharks are. Find out how common sharks of that size in the mediterranean around majorca are, please. I will do the mediterranean around majorca are, please. Iwill do that. We the mediterranean around majorca are, please. I will do that. We will see you at 11 30pm when you have done your research. Thats it for the papers tonight. Another martina cole thriller, another number one bestseller. Betrayal continues herjourney through the london underworld where, in Martina Coles stories, its the women who are the most dangerous. In this one, its jade who is plotting to become miss big. For 25 years, since dangerous lady, this is an author who has made that world her own. Welcome. 25 years since dangerous lady, martina, and the ladies are still pretty dangerous and rough, arent they . Yeah, i think i like my dangerous ladies, and i also like my dangerous men. I normally write from the Point Of View of the criminal, as everybody knows, as opposed to the police. I dont really write many police procedurals, so i quite enjoy sort of being on the other side of the coin. The other side of the coin its where youve always been, in a way, and the brilliance with which you made these tough women the ones who really ran the show, i mean, was that something thatjust came to you accidentally . You just tumbled into it . You know, i come from a long line of really really strong irish women, so i think thats probably got something to do with it. But also, you know, im a very strong woman, and i think that comes across in the books. And also im a great believer in women, you know we dont get mad, we get even, which i think comes across as well. Its about women being put in extraordinary positions in their lives and making the best of it. Betrayal, just out in paperback, is i think the 23rd novel and betrayal, the title, is the essence of the book. Now, im not going to give away the plot, but once again its a woman whos in a position where she can really wield an extraordinary amount of power, and some pretty big rough tough men are actually quite terrified by her. Yeah, well, jade is a fantastic character. She was a great character to write. Aiden was a really terrific character to write too, whos sort of a love interest. Head of the family. But also this is the first time ive ever done sort of the may december romance, you know, where the womans older than the guy. I like my women to be feisty and, you know, i like them to be able to take care of themselves, and i think thats very important. Obviously youre writing about london and the underworld and so on. Do you feel close to that world . Im not suggesting youre in it but i mean culturally do you think this is a fascinating pulsating undercurrent of, you know, the world you know . You know, growing up in essex and london. Well, without crime thered hardly be any television programmes. Thered hardly be any books. Think about it, you know. Everybody wants to know, how do you catch the bad guys . The differences are i dont want my bad guys to get caught a lot of the time, because i end up quite liking them. But, you know, if you look at it, theres so many programmes now on police procedurals, especially on Serial Killers and all sorts, and i think i probably tapped into that a long time ago, a long time before women were writing my kind of books, because it was always just policemen. Theres so many women now writing books about criminals. And do you find a lot of your readers are women who rather enjoy that sense of, you know, the power being handed over . You know, my readerships now about 50 50. Im still the most requested books in the prison system, and im still the most stolen books from shops, which i always find quite. Why do you think . Even in scotland, in the male prisons, im the most requested author. And i take that as a compliment, because these are the people that im writing about. And if they think its realistic, then obviously i must be doing something right. Have you done talks in prisons . Oh, yeah. Ive been doing Prison Workshops for 25 years. And what do you make of it, when you go inside and face them . It depends. I mean, i was in barlinnie twice last year. Ive done a couple of Writing Classes in there. I do most of the big prisons. Ive done belmarsh for years, wandsworth, holloway its been closed now, thank god, it was getting really old. But i do a lot of womens prisons, mens prisons. I do the writing class. I also encourage reading. Ive done the six Book Challenge and im still ambassador for that, to go in and get people reading notjust in prisons, but in the workplace. Of course. Its just about getting people back reading books. When youre in a prison, and youre with some fairly ha rd boiled characters, and presumably you dont know their real names, or what theyve done. Yeah, you know who they are. Some of them youve obviously heard of, but ive never ever asked anybody ever what theyve done. No. I think people think you go in and they tell me all their stories, but they dont. I go in there and i do an actual writing class. Questions and answers they ask me things they want to know. And i must admit there have been times when i have known the people in there, and theyve gone, hello, do you know. And i go, oh, hello. Laughter. But ive got to say, its very worthwhile. You know, weve got the best Education System in the world its free, and im still shocked at how many young men especially cannot read and write by the time they get to prison. Its shocking. What fascinates you about, you know, The Dark Side of our lives . Well, i think its what fascinates everybody, i mean, a lot of male authors, you know, with everything from the godfather, and i think what really interests me is, you know, what turns people. And it can be a very narrow line between an ordinary respectable life, if you like, and. Yeah, well, they always say that about the police, dont they, and the criminals . Theyve had such a thin line between them, you know. Another little bit and they would be chasing you, you know, and oftentimes police say that, because a lot of police come to signings and things a lot of police, especially detectives from certain stations around london. What do they say to you . Well, they say, god, its just so realistic, its so believable. And thats what i take as a compliment, you know. How do you think you found that voice, because every author needs a voice, a sort of confident voice at the beginning. A bit individual, i know, yeah. And you seemed to hit it bang off. I mean, dangerous lady, 25 years ago, was an instant bestseller, and youve gone on, you know, with this extraordinary career ever since. Did itjust come to you, that way of talking about them, that way of describing things . I think what the secret for me was i wrote as i spoke, and i wrote the dialect as i heard the dialect in my head. You hear it and it just comes to you . I hear it, yeah. I remember years ago when we were doing dangerous lady as a television series, and johnny woods who directed it, he said, it was the first book i ever read, martina, where it was just like reading a script. It was like reading a shooting script. He said, you dont have that much description, but what you have is in how people talk and how they react with each other. He said, i think that shows. I dont have reams and reams of, you know, if they have long hair or. Do you like some of the bent people that you meet . Yeah, i mean, very enigmatic. So many people are very enigmatic, you know, and i think people can go either way, you know, and i think more and more the lines are becoming blurred because of whats happened with with bankers and whats happened. Its a very blurred line now between who people actually think are criminals people say, you know, oh, hes a bit of a lad, or hes a rogue, but the man thatsjust took everybodys money in the bank, i think they have a completely different impression. Well, thats an interesting philosophical question, isnt it . In betrayal, i mean, youre back in this territory that you know. Its the territory of the street, the territory of the family. Its all in the end about power, and you love to see, in the power game, the women at the top. I do, i cant help it. I do like to see women. I like to think that extraordinary things happen to us, whether we want them to or not. You lose a child, you lose your husband, something terrible happens and you have to pick yourself up and go on, and i like to think that my women have all these extraordinary things happen to them and they come out on top. And i like to think that, you know, we all come out on top. Martina cole, author of betrayal, the 23rd book in a series, i suppose, that began with dangerous lady, thanks very much. Thank you. The winds eased down and the skies clear for the winds eased down and the Skies Clearfor many, the winds eased down and the skies clear for many, but still one or two overnight showers for Western Scotla nd overnight showers for Western Scotland and Northern Ireland. Pretty quite by the end of the quite fresh as well, ten to 11 degrees for towns and cities. Rural spots going into single figures. A bright start on monday for many. We will see Clouds Thicken in Northern Ireland and really moving away, a bit more cloudy into the afternoon in the south west. Elsewhere, some good spells of sunshine. Dry weather, light winds, 22 celsius in london but only 11 in aberdeen. In the evening, rain in Northern Ireland makes progress into scotland and the north east of england, and perhaps parts wales. The rest of this week will be unsettled, spells of rain could be quite heavy at times, and at times quite windy as well. This is bbc news. The headlines at 11 the number of high rise blocks which have failed Fire Cladding safety checks rises to 60 across 25 local authorities. So far 100 of buildings tested have failed. It is being tested. The current Building Regulations in place. The tests would imply a doubt it that it would meet the current Building Regulations. Are you going to be staying or leaving . Staying some residents of tower blocks in north london refuse to leave as hundreds prepare for a third night away over safety fears. The brexit secretary, david davis, says hes pretty sure, but not certain, he can secure a good deal when britain leaves the eu

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