one of them said, "every time this is happening to me, "that i'm being called in for these catastrophic events, which were "unexpected and unexplained, lucy letby is there." and then somebody else said, "yes, i found that." and they all realised that the common factor for each of them was letby's presence on the unit. dr brearey emailed the unit manager again in march 2016, saying, "we still need to talk about lucy." he'd also asked for an urgent meeting with hospital bosses. it was three months before that meeting took place. so, you'd asked for an urgent meeting? that's correct, yes. it was quite surreal, because we had these concerns, and as a group,