be coming down to create divide and a lock— be coming down to create divide and a lock on— be coming down to create divide and a lock on anti—protest and at one point _ a lock on anti—protest and at one point they— a lock on anti—protest and at one point they were in the road in various— point they were in the road in various bamboo poles and things were discovered, _ various bamboo poles and things were discovered, policing essentially had to let _ discovered, policing essentially had to let that _ discovered, policing essentially had to let that run until eventually became — to let that run until eventually became a _ to let that run until eventually became a substantive offence and they had — became a substantive offence and they had intervene and ultimately impacted — they had intervene and ultimately impacted much more on the rights of other— impacted much more on the rights of other people as well. from an operational perspective, even though this may— operational perspective, even though this may be very rarely used and there _ this may be very rarely used and there is— this may be very rarely used and there is a — this may be very rarely used and there is a degree of breath and the framing _ there is a degree of breath and the framing of— there is a degree of breath and the framing of it, absolutely, you can have _ framing of it, absolutely, you can have over — framing of it, absolutely, you can have over somebody sitting down and potentially _ have over somebody sitting down and potentially committing an offence, but people walking towards them with bicycle _ but people walking towards them with bicycle locks, that were not clear what _ bicycle locks, that were not clear what exactly what was going on, and police _ what exactly what was going on, and police may— what exactly what was going on, and police may not have the ability to intervene. — police may not have the ability to intervene, so there are challenges around _ intervene, so there are challenges around interpretation, the concern about— around interpretation, the concern about is— around interpretation, the concern about is this too broadly framed? the imaginations of protest groups are very— the imaginations of protest groups are very broadly framed and if the law is— are very broadly framed and if the law is too— are very broadly framed and if the law is too narrow, that is much more easily— law is too narrow, that is much more easily circumvented for individuals looking _ easily circumvented for individuals looking to — easily circumvented for individuals looking to be unreasonable in the protest _ looking to be unreasonable in the protest and cause serious disruption, but it has to be handled