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but again, this has to be done through the self—determination of people. they should decide. let me move on to what russians might, could, orshould do in these circumstances. in 2011—2012, you were among protesters on the streets of moscow. that was the last time there was a serious mobilisation, popular mobilisation against vladimir putin. what chances are there of such a movement happening again under the current circumstances? i think that unarmed movement is not so possible, because again, people are rational. they don't want to go to jailfor nothing. they want to do something which is reasonable. so there is obviously a certain circle of people who are not politicised, but who are dissidents, who want to express their moral position — and even such number of people

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