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yeah, i take your point. i don't think many independent historians saw much validity in a lot of what putin was claiming about ukraine's history. but, nonetheless, are you not in danger of going too far the other way when you say, and i think you said it to me pretty much earlier in this interview, you seem to say, "oh, we ukrainians are fundamentally "different from russians because russia has a sort "of collective mind—set which is very reflective of a sort "of soviet approach. "and we ukrainians are highly individualistic, maybe chaotic, "but ultimately much more akin to a european individualist "way of thinking." that sounds very binary. is it really as simple as that? well, i mean, this is maybe a simplification, because you can find also ukrainians with collective mentality. and these ukrainians lived actually in crimea and in donbas. and they were... i mean, they were nostalgic in crimea about tsarist times because, i mean, there's some kind of cult of... romanov family was supported in crimea, and half of souvenirs that you could bring

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