is an extremely powerful force in russia, and that remains true, does it not? er, it's not really so. and it doesn't work against ukraine. i mean, ukraine is our neighbours. 50 million ethnic ukrainians live in russia. almost every... almost every family in russia has relatives or close friends, or both, in ukraine. you just can't sell this nationalist idea, even through the most powerful propaganda machine, even through putin's propaganda machine. it wouldn't work. leonid volkov, we have to end there. but i thank you very much indeed forjoining me from california. thank you.