but i think we have institutional racism in this country because our society was built on the racist institution of british empire. and again, words matter. you use the word "genocide" to talk about certain times, certain incidents in the british empire story. you're very sure? you really think it meets that standard of genocide? absolutely. the tasmanian genocide — every historian i consulted called it that, and, actually, it was considered such a pure genocide it was used as an example when we were developing international laws about genocide. it was the example that people went to. and yet now you have, in mainstream newspapers, people denying it even happened, which i think is quite disgusting. so, yours is a commitment to truth—telling, to confronting the facts, the real story of the british empire. but, of course, i don't need to tell you this — i mean, in history, interpretation is always the thing. you know, facts can be interpreted in different ways,