something and we were told that you're wrong and never to speak badly about him again, so then i would feel, "well, then i'm wrong and i feel guilty for mistrusting a doctor." and, you know, ifelt so ashamed of myself for thinking bad of someone, so i wish i could give you this really simple answer but it's so complicated. and the reality is, it's very, very hard to speak up because a lot of times survivors are shamed and told they're wrong, and they're not believed. but people also go to great lengths to protect the abuser. and usa gymnastics and the united states olympic committee, in my opinion, went to great lengths to protect him. and that's why i'm saying we need an independent investigation to understand what happened. aly, that's exactly what i want to get to now, because, again, just to finish the story of this individual, dr larry nassar is, of course, in prison. he was sentenced to well over