he would have you up against the wall. and i've seen him with players up against the wall, "play this. "you're playing for our club now." yeah, yeah. i've seen that side. yeah, i'm sure you have. laughter. there were four of the players that went right the way through, wasn't there, from the bottom of the fourth division to the top of the first? yes, i mean, rossjenkins, who we thought was, you know, a giraffe, who became one of the best centre forwards and one of the most underrated centre forwards in the league. and then, luther, of course, came through. played for england. and then, the first person he really bought was sam ellis, centre half. he said, "it all starts with a captain. "sam ellis is going to be my captain". he bought dennis booth, ian bolton, who was a fantastic ambassador for this club and a great player. he wanted players who would die for him and he got them. he played a certain way. very direct. he played a certain way but we were very attractive to watch. we had two amazing wingers, barnes and callahan, and luther blissett and rossjenkins up front would have frightened anybody. and i just think that was a little unfair because,